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A buddy of mine is single again after seventeen years together with the same woman. He’s not married and no kids… but he hasn’t had a date since 1999 and doesn’t seem to be up to spin on how to deal with modern American women.
Oh, he meets women… catfish on tinder, hookers at hotels, trannies when he’s working in Asia… basically a lot of women who have made him for a mark.
Here’s what I told him:
1) Your purpose on a date is not to “get to know” her… it’s to find out if you can spend six hours together without choking each other to death. Get drunk, play cards, go bowling and talk about nothing important.
2) You should move one base per date. If she makes you hold out for more than four meetings, she’s not interested in you, just in your wallet. For your first date, take her out for drinks to see if she pays her share or not. Second date should be to a restaurant, even a cheap one, to see how she treats the wait staff. Third date you get in her home or get her back to yours and find out how she acts in private. If you wake up the next morning and she isn’t there naked and ready to go, bail out.
3) You do not care about a woman until after yuo’ve had sex with her. Oh, she’ll blab about every damn thing and ask you a hundred questions about your work, your family, your plans for the future… none of it means s~~~ until you’ve made her and she doesn’t go berzerk on you three days later.
4) Never let her get a foothold in your house. If she asks for a toothbrush, tell her she was just licking your b~~~~ so your toothbrush won’t hurt her… or give her a fresh one and as soon as she’s done with it, take it and use it to clean the drain then throw it away while she watches. Anything she leaves at your place, throw it away or give it back to her first thing the next time you see her.
5) Never talk about other women you are or may be seeing. Let her beleive whatever she wants to believe about what you so when she’s not around. Refuse to be grilled, shamed, tracked or confronted about anything. Tell her if she’s not happy with things as they are, she is free to make you a better offer or hit the bricks.
6) Never do her favors or give her money. Don’t help her find a job, don’t introduce her to your influential friends, don’t give her a discount deal where you do business and never buy her a gift or give her cash for any reason. You’re trading your time, effort and energy for hers and that’s it. Tipping is for baristas and whores, not for dates.
7) Call her out immediately on her bulls~~~ and be prepared to let her walk out at any time. Keep it in your mind that every word you say to her might be the last one. If she tries some s~~~, you just fold your arms and wait for her to leave. Otherwise, if you can’t control yourself and your space then she will do it for you.
8) Always keep your options open and have at least two more girls yuo’re talking to… on deck and in the hole. She will try to use cult onboarding tactics such as separating you from your friends and family and making you believe she is the only person in the world who can understand or handle you… if you let yourself become too invested in one woman, she will eventually own you.
9) Never accept double standards, open relationships, any form of hypocrisy or the suggestion that she can’t be responsible or wrong because she is a woman. If she even suggests one of these things, end it immediately.
10) Get a f~~~ing vasectomy right now and then insist on using a condom the first time you f~~~ a woman. It will send a powerful message to her that yuo aren’t bulls~~~ting. Of course, you can stop using them later as she will undoubtedly encourage you to do, safe in the knowledge that she will almost certainly try to baby jail you.
Well, that’s it. Hopefully this advice will help my guy friend avoid getting played. Somehow I doubt it.
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3) You do not care about a woman until after yuo’ve had sex with her. Oh, she’ll blab about every damn thing and ask you a hundred questions about your work, your family, your plans for the future… none of it means s~~~ until you’ve made her and she doesn’t go berzerk on you three days later.
I would just add to the above that the only reason she is asking you questions if for ammo to use on you later. Whatever you say will be held against you in her court of law at some point. “But you said…..” will come out of her mouth to start some s~~~.
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Excellent advice. This needs to be reposted from time to time.
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the only reason she is asking you questions if for ammo to use on you later
Yep. Whenever a serious or personal topic comes up, it’s best to be vague, sarcastic or funny or to reflect the question back on her and let her keep talking.
This needs to be reposted from time to time
I’ll try to spell check it better next time.
and doesn’t seem to be up to spin on how to deal with modern American women.
it’s really simple-DON’T engage at any level. Don’t try to rationalize it, redefine it, make excuses for it….simply walk away or you’re screwed…
it’s really simple-DON’T engage at any level. Don’t try to rationalize it, redefine it, make excuses for it….simply walk away or you’re screwed.
Abstinence works… if you can keep it up. But unless you’re physically incapable of being sexually attracted to women, I don’t believe you can.
I prefer not to struggle against my nature but rather to be aware of my instinctual urges, accept them and channel them into the most effective expression possible.
Thanks for sharing all of this. I know I wont stay in “monk” mode the rest of my life.
It has been a long time since I even went on a date, just one of the many pitfalls of wasting away years in married hell.
Really can’t thank you enough for this thread, and I don’t know about your friend, but I know it will help me.
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Really can’t thank you enough for this thread, and I don’t know about your friend, but I know it will help me.
It’s the very least I can do.
I don’t expect my solutions to work for everyone… I even understand some people will say it’s a matter of self-mastery to overcome our instinctual drivers and that’s a totally valid point of view.
In any case, we’re all here to share our experiences and I’ll be happy if mine can help someone half as much as many other participants here have helped me.
In any case, we’re all here to share our experiences and I’ll be happy if mine can help someone half as much as many other participants here have helped me.
Respect & admire that…seeing how long it has been since I was in the dating/pump & dump scene, my social skills, etc, in that setting are rusted & antiquated at best.
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