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With Scaramuch gone and Kelly and McMasters in, I am beginning to change my tune about Trump. After Trump got rid of Flynn, the entire establishment saw they could get to him, and they ramped it up 24-7 nonstop since then.
It appears to me now that Trump is playing it safe, for one reason… he is not willing to kill people like his predecessors (on both sides). Politics is about death, plain and simple. Trump is a lover, not a fighter. Sure he loves to negotiate, and in business that’s fine. This is something altogether different.
The establishment has figured out Trump isn’t going to off anybody, and so they are carrying on right ahead pretending he isn’t president. Federal judges openly defy him, the GOP blocks him at every turn, and now his own White house is a den of snakes and vipers.
More and more it is beginning to look like he is about to be checkmated, and the fact seems to be, he isn’t going to have a trail of bodies behind him (he has probably never even considered it), and to put it bluntly, that is why he is in such danger. Politics is an ugly game. “Kings are killed Mr. Garrison. It’s as old as the crucifixion”.
I pray that Trump can make America great again, but this is not America. This is the United States of America, which is a corporation of which we are all subjects to US code and now it looks like CFR code. So there can be no Make America Great Again so long as the United States of America corporation exists, since America is a conquered country.
Trump is not hiring loyalists. He is hiring political hacks. There’s a rule in business – never hire a lawyer to be your CEO – the lawyer will sue all your best customers. Now, I think, never hire a General to be your chief of staff – the General will create a war in your organization! Just like in the Star Trek movies, the Generals succeed only when there is war. War is their job security, and is all they know to not become redundant.
Trump hid Scaramouchi at Import/Export for six months, only to fire him in a week, at the behest of a globalist traitor, because of how it would look? Scaramouchi was his big weapon!
I’ll admit, at first I thought Smaramouchi was “hired to be fired” so Trump had an escape goat to get rid of Priebus and others. Now, I am thinking this is not the case.
I believe Trump has made his second biggest mistake (first was firing Flynn), and also his third and fourth biggest mistake.
If Trump does not arrest everybody (and I do mean everybody) cart blanch very soon, I fear this is not going to end well.
Now Comey is getting rich off leaving the FBI? No. Just no. That man murdered Lavoy in cold blood. These people murdered a supreme court judge. Just… no.
Something is starting to smell very rotten here. I don’t get a good feeling, and my gut is telling me something is really really wrong.
I am thinking it is time to go back to making a plan B. We all know if the wall isn’t built, the dems aren’t in jail, and the jobs aren’t back, the dems are going to end up right back in power in the next election, and then it’s game over. I honestly believe they are going to hunt us down and kill us, Nazi style. Call me insane… yes I actually believe this.
Is anyone else here making a plan B? I mean a real f~~~ing plan B?
Anonymous43who are these people, and how are they really relevant to the day to day running of your life?
who are these people, and how are they really relevant to the day to day running of your life?
I don’t live in the forest. Not all of us are suicidal. I do actually love life and love living and do feel a purpose, and there’s nothing wrong with that.
Your question has nothing to do with my topic, which I am genuinely interested in. Not sure why you are misdirecting.
I am guessing you are in your 20s? Or are you being smarmy? Because I’m not. When they come for you (and your family, if you have one) then you will know how interconnected things are to your life.
If you don’t know the answer to this question, then you are ignorant of what is going on in America. I don’t use the term “ignorant” in an insulting way – just matter of fact.
Try giving birth to a child in the hospital and refusing vitamin K (which royally F~~~S up your child) and refusing that bulls~~~ foot-prick to take a blood sample which goes to the pentagon and is stored in a DNA database forever, and see how fast the hospital calls the police on you and takes your children away from you. If you really have no clue what’s happening in this world then sticking your head in the sand won’t save you when they come for you. Study a history book, and see what happens when any empire comes to an end.
I’ll leave you with this, to answer your question. If you run toward a tsunami because it looks cool, because you don’t know it’s a tsuniami, you’ll be killed. A quarter of a million people did that. The fact that you don’t know certain things doesn’t mean it’s not coming. As far as I can tell, it’s coming, and it does affect us with children. People are different.
The one question one should ask is: Do those attempting this coup against President Trump believe they can convince the 62 million people whom support and voted for President Trump that their actions are legitimate?
Removing a leader is likely the easy part of a coup. Convincing the populace that their actions are legitimate is the hard part.
If a power grab cannot be legitimized in the eyes of the native populations, said nation where the power grab happened will eventually collapse into infighting and rebellion.
This is why coups are rarely attempted by developed first world nations. Because only the willfully blind of those nations do not realize what is happening with each step the various groups and individuals take.
Given this population has become so jaded and distrustful, I do not believe they would be able to convince those supporting President Trump that their actions were legitimate.
The irony to all this is President Trump is a deal maker. He literally wrote the book, “The Art of the Deal”. Yet his political enemies would rather create hell on Earth out of spite than attempt to work out a deal with him and the American people.
People equating the Game of Thrones to the nation’s current political situation is likely the biggest single political mistake I have seen this week.
I do not like the Game of Thrones series. I do not like the premise of the story. That groups of royal families via for power over a nation of disarmed, cowardly people, while their nation is in the shadow of an unstoppable army of death solely held back by a very large wall.
Not any part of this can be equated to this situation. We are not a nation of royals. The nationalists backing President Trump are neither cowardly, nor disarmed. Those opposing the nationalists are the parasitic classes whom feel they are entitle to rule over the working classes and take what the working classes have earned and built for their own.
I have no respect for cowards, sycophants, and snobs. The Game of Thrones cast is mostly filled with all three of those types of people.
Honor, courage, dedication to one’s beliefs. That is what I respect.
No one of the members of the Game of Thrones cast is a true Alexander The Great. Instead of dealing with the Gordian Knot of politics, a true Alexander The Great would cut through the politics, such as secretly poisoning the water supply of the capital city with a slow acting poison. Like was what done at the Siege of Kirrha, during the Cirraean war.
After everyone in the capital is dead, then walk in a claim the throne.
If a power grab cannot be legitimized in the eyes of the native populations, said nation where the power grab happened will eventually collapse into infighting and rebellion.
I don’t see this happening. Ours is the first fully technocratic society so rebellion is impossible. Everything is monitored and stored in databases and used to control us, and the money is printed out of thin air to make us broke overnight and to pay police and soldiers with the new money. Furthermore, it is the conservative part of this nation that has already shown they are all talk and no action when it comes to rebellion. The only ones rebelling are the liberals, even though they already hold all the power.
This is why coups are rarely attempted by developed first world nations.
Coups at the bottom rung of the social class happen when stomachs are hungry. At the top of the social class, coups are attempted all the time.
Given this population has become so jaded and distrustful,
The jaded and distrustful population is MGTOW. Everyone else is going along to get along. Trump had a lot of votes because he was the republican nominee. The Cruz and Bush folks voted for Trump, but that doesn’t mean they are his “supporters”. Most of the “supporters” are Christians who go along to get along, and think that every starving person in Africa or every Indian with a cleft lip and every orphan in China needs us to save them and feed them and will destroy their own lives to do so, out of perpetual altruism. They will not be revolting when Trump is removed or fails to deliver.
Ours is the first fully technocratic society so rebellion is impossible. Everything is monitored and stored in databases and used to control us,
No it is not. It comes down to logistics. The government does not have the manpower to disarm the population.
Also, this spying costs a lot of money, at a time when the economy is on the constant verge of crashing.
The American people whom support President Trump are already hurting and the will not tolerate their hope being destroyed.
Coups at the bottom rung of the social class happen when stomachs are hungry.
When the poor starve, they eat the rich.
At the top of the social class, coups are attempted all the time.
No in such a brazen, insulting, arrogant manner was what we are saying.
Everyone else is going along to get along. Trump had a lot of votes because he was the republican nominee.
You must not be listening to President Trump’s rallies. Tonight, they are still chanting “lock her up”.
In the last election, Hillary had rig the election every way she could to win. President Trump won because he spoke to the working class like Cruz and Bush never did.
With the deck stacked so high against President Trump, no one else would have been able to beat Hillary in the previous election.
The previous election up ended the entire political equation.
This is no longer the false dynamic of conservationism versus liberal. This is nationalism versus parasites.
They will not be revolting when Trump is removed or fails to deliver.
This sounds like you want President Trump removed from office. Because only someone whom does so would write a post looking for excuses as to why such an event would take place with no reaction from the people.
You seem to have such a low expectations towards the people.
By the way, the loss of respect and viewership from the corporate news media shows how jaded the American people have become towards those politically attacking President Trump.
If I am mistaken about your intentions, please explain why you made such a post.
This is turning into quite a lively discussion!
I think MGTOW is a good place to have discussions like these since we are all definitely red-pilled by nature and circumstances.
I currently believe that Trump was nominated and elected as a glitch in the system that actually allowed a person to be chosen by the people, instead of presented to us as a choice by the media and those who control it.
Some of the stuff I’ve seen since the election lead me to be suspicious of whether Trump is actually influencing anything, but I still hold out hope that he is, at least to some degree.
I’m also convinced that there is a coup underway, possibly by more than one or two factions. The coups are being run by media, politicians and outside forces, maybe even military.
The appointed leadership in our own intelligence community is definitely working behind the scenes with all of these groups.
I don’t think our rank and file military will attempt to overthrow our government, but hand-picked Generals/Admirals working with our intelligence agencies certainly will, and they could issue orders or make statements that will stir up a lot of trouble and chaos.
Watch the mainstream news for even more wildly crazy stories and accusations and try to compare them with what you hear from “alternative” news sources and commentary from entertainers, etc..
We are living in interesting times.Men in society once stood shoulder to shoulder for the good of society . Not anymore . Society is now a me me me society . So i will be me and f~~~ them all . They have made society this way for control and gain
THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .
Sandals wrote:
They will not be revolting when Trump is removed or fails to deliver.
This sounds like you want President Trump removed from office.
Believing what I want to happen does not preclude me from stating what is going to happen. Not sure how you come to this conclusion. That we want to believe NAWALT does not negate AWALT. Let’s be pragmatic based on the results we are getting.
If I am mistaken about your intentions, please explain why you made such a post.
1.) Faust, I have always loved your posts, and I am sure I will continue to do so.
2.) Your response to my post makes no sense at all to me. But it’s very late. Read my post again tomorrow, with fresh eyes.
3.) I disagree with many of your conclusions in your last post. The time for rallies is over. The time to lock her up is now. That won’t be happening with Kelly and McMasters and Sessions.
4.) I still respect you and like your posts.
5.) I made a post to ask if people are making a plan B. Is anyone else making a plan B for when Hillary or Obama or some liberal whack job ends up back in office? Or am I the only one?
I don’t think our rank and file military will attempt to overthrow our government
I would say our government was overthrown a long time ago. Trump was hired to bring it back.
Is anyone making a plan B? That is my question, and the purpose of my topic. I am genuinely interested in what other’s are preparing, because I have to figure out my own situation.
Anonymous145.) I made a post to ask if people are making a plan B. Is anyone else making a plan B for when Hillary or Obama or some liberal whack job ends up back in office? Or am I the only one?
This is behaving like something actually changed under Trump, I haven’t seen that yet, and the way to judge this is by what the president supposedly has the power to do, and that of late is to wage war without congressional approval. He already fired missiles into Syria based on “reports”. What a joke…
Also, he signed the Russia sanctions.
Same train on the same tracks, different puppet in the lead car waving his hat around out the window.
I predict more “reports” and false flags getting us into more bulls~~~ that Israel wants in the Mid East. Syria, Iran…
There are certain things that are clearly untouchable, and the most glaring one is Foreign Policy. The last three elections the people elected a president who said his intentions were to pull back from the nonsense in the Mid East, Obama doubled down on the Bush era stuff after running on a peace platform, for f~~~s sake he won a Nobel Prize for talking about peace, then proceeded to wage twice as much war as Bush, even took out Libya without Congressional Approval… And I don’t see any evidence yet of anything different from Trump thus far after his rhetoric that helped to get him elected.
As far as I am concerned when the people and the Presidents they elect are not able to make a change in course after three election cycles at some point you got to come to grips with the fact that you live in a Rogue State ran by Oligarchs as all this tension with Russia has to do with Israel getting it’s way in Syria and then Iran, the 6th and 7th countries on their hit list that was created some 15 years ago.
America first? Still seems like Israel first to me.
All Trump did was buy you 8 more years that is it he will make your life better for the time being but once he is gone it will get much worse. Other countries like Sweden, Canada, Britain, Australia, (basically the west) are already having it much worse. These countries already have globalist leaders looting each nation and destroying the western culture. Trump is basically surrounded both at home and abroad unless something drastic takes place where arrests are made and other leaders of the world are ousted from their positions and nationalism takes root in all western countries nothing will change. In my opinion Canada is already gone nothing can be done to salvage this mess here and the same can be said about Sweden. Plan B is get ready for the s~~~ storm that is about to take place because things will have to come to a head eventually.
good thread
and I still think our whole system of democracy is currently ticking along on suspension of disbelief only. If Trump is removed for clearly fake reasons (the UK MSM were talking like Trump and Russia is a done deal) then the whole system will crash
Sandals:
I guess I don’t know what you mean by a “Plan B”.
Is there a “Plan A”? If so, what is it?
Has anyone knowingly been implementing a “Plan A” for any reason related to having Trump in office?My best guess is you mean if President Trump gets removed from office for whatever reason, what do we intend to do about it?
I suppose the response of most people supporting Trump would be civil public protests and maybe some sort of a “call to arms”, but that will get demonized by the media in between all of their celebrations of their success in removing Trump.
I would expect further deterioration of American civility will continue and maybe a few well-known people will get killed through various means.
The media is going to continue spinning things in the same direction they’ve been spinning; so I really think apathy is going to rule until significant lives are lost and actually reported upon.From there, who knows. Maybe a real civil war with guns and stuff.
That won’t be good for anybody. Trust me.Not really any sort of “Plan”.
Just a slow motion reaction to whatever gets presented to us in the news.Believing what I want to happen does not preclude me from stating what is going to happen.
That is sidestepping my question.
1.) Faust, I have always loved your posts, and I am sure I will continue to do so.
2.) Your response to my post makes no sense at all to me. But it’s very late. Read my post again tomorrow, with fresh eyes.
3.) I disagree with many of your conclusions in your last post. The time for rallies is over. The time to lock her up is now. That won’t be happening with Kelly and McMasters and Sessions.
4.) I still respect you and like your posts.
5.) I made a post to ask if people are making a plan B. Is anyone else making a plan B for when Hillary or Obama or some liberal whack job ends up back in office? Or am I the only one?
1. Thank you.
2. My posts make sense. You are just tired.
3. You missed my point. The people are still chanting “lock her up”. This should raise alarm bells of anyone seeking to remove President Trump, by doing so they risk far more than they could gain.
4. And you have been polite. I enjoy a good debate done on the details. That is what you are offering. Thank you.
5. I am pointing out what will likely happen should they force President Trump out of office in a coup.
The politicians and globalists working to removed President Trump actually believe that if they remove him the people supporting him will do nothing, accept his removal, and with the gravy train restarting for the politicians and globalists.
That is not going to happen. The politicians, globalists, and their puppets of the press and paid rioters have so antagonized the Trump supporters that any such action would lead to a permanent fracturing of the United States.
Consider this. The moment they remove President Trump, they likely going to immediately trying to cripple any possible revolt from happen. They will attempt to lock down travel for those areas that voted for President Trump, work to deny a political voice for Trump supports in public and at the ballot box, seize bank accounts of Trump supporters, and work to disarm the American people as quickly as possible. This will create a defacto “Reconstruction Era” for Trump supporters to suffer through.
And the globalists have been using their press and rioters to build up to this, by accusing all Trump supporters of being savage bigots whom need to be censored, fired from their jobs, lose everything, and be made to suffer.
If the coup does not immediately start a revolution, these measures will.
I don’t see a revolution happening. That requires organization, of which there is none. Even the Michigan Militia didn’t fight the FBI, and allowed the FBI to murder Lavoy in cold blood, and then to broadcast it to the country as a warning.
The cops in this country are ghouls, hungry for violence and a chance to kill. They are all sick freaks, and they are paid to quell any revolt. One screaming man on the hill against the SWAT team will end in the SWAT team killing the man on the hill.
Basically what I am thinking is to just get out of America. I went to Cosco today and it looks like Lybia. Imams and Hijabs, with their tunics and turbans. I don’t think there was one real American citizen there. It’s f~~~ing scary. This clearly is not America.
But where to go. Nowhere. It’s not really where you are, but who you’re with, I think. Some other country? They are all worse. So what happens when America is horrible, but all other countries are worse? Then what? What’s the plan B? I don’t know. Just watch our country turn into a slum I guess.
I don’t see a revolution happening. That requires organization, of which there is none. Even the Michigan Militia didn’t fight the FBI, and allowed the FBI to murder Lavoy in cold blood, and then to broadcast it to the country as a warning.
The cops in this country are ghouls, hungry for violence and a chance to kill. They are all sick freaks, and they are paid to quell any revolt. One screaming man on the hill against the SWAT team will end in the SWAT team killing the man on the hill.
Basically what I am thinking is to just get out of America. I went to Cosco today and it looks like Lybia. Imams and Hijabs, with their tunics and turbans. I don’t think there was one real American citizen there. It’s f~~~ing scary. This clearly is not America.
But where to go. Nowhere. It’s not really where you are, but who you’re with, I think. Some other country? They are all worse. So what happens when America is horrible, but all other countries are worse? Then what? What’s the plan B? I don’t know. Just watch our country turn into a slum I guess.
I don’t think leaving America is for aesthetic reason. But for SHTF.
Like avoiding divorce rape, force military draft, crazy tax law, civil war etc.
Also beware of the pro and cons of leaving America, and what happens with the tax law if you don’t renounce your American citizenship and just have a second citizenship. (a number of foreign banks won’t work with you, pay double tax if you earn money overseas.)
https://www.good.is/articles/americans-renouncing-citizenship
After you are sure of your decision, you can check of these countries to see which suite you.
Get second residency and pay no tax in these 18 tax-free countries
You may want to wait a bit and see if Trump will roll back the tax law
http://www.atr.org/free-market-groups-ask-congress-rescind-fcc-privacy-rulesIf SHTF don’t happen you can consider using the second country a cheap place for retirement to take advantage of the exchange rate.
There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.
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