Requesting for the return of TheWolfSheepFear

[Dashing Young DissidentSpectator]

The dude got demoted to spectator by KM for this thread a while back:

Bring back the back hand

Since he was demoted, we have been speaking via email. The guy is 100% legit and a nice guy. I even invited him to Zoom chat.

What he said in his thread was what he was thinking, as opposed to actually wanting to do it. We all have red pill rage, or have been through it or are yet to go through it.

Other members were giving him advice and he was listening, things were going well, then he got the ban hammer, which I thought was counterintuitive to this sites philosophy.

I believe this guy deserves a second chance without question. If we’re gunna keep turning away certain members for things they said without giving them a chance, it will only lead them to despair and possibly suicide. This site is most guys last resort.

What say you guys?

[Anonymous 43]

do not advocate violence against women. It’s in the site rules.

[Dashing Young DissidentSpectator]

Well this is what I’m trying to explain. Every guy here has thought what this guy wrote after being f~~~ed over by a woman/divorce raped, (if you haven’t, you’re a f~~~ing liar) and he was expressing red pill rage.

Can we forgive him and let him back onboard?

[ZarathustraParticipant 2246]

There are some lines that cannot be crossed and this is one of them. Even as a “joke” a mental exercise, “venting” what have you. Society wants to paint us in a certain light and these kinds of posts contribute to the misconception. Its easy to say NFG, but violence against women is not how I want our communityy to be identified.

[ghostParticipant]

I was trying to help him as well. I don’t think he was trying to promote violence at all. I think some guys just did not understand where he was coming from. We have some older guys here who have no clue how things are for younger men these days. They can theorize all they want from reading books and articles, but they will never know how it feels to be 25 years old in our current society.

You know how some of these men like to say, “Oh, you wouldn’t make it in my era with that attitude”. Well, it works both ways.

He definitely deserves a second chance. You have my complete support, DYD.

[DocParticipant]

I agree with May but I think people should also have a chance to redeem themselves.
I talked to him also when he was reduced to spectator.
He appears to need this place.

Where I am from violence is literally an everyday thing for men. I had to f
Get away from that.
Seems to me that TheWolfSheepFear just needed to gain a better perspective on such matters – that being it’s just not acceptable.
He got that message so to me he learned his lesson.
He didn’t do an X11 and become a t~~~. He took the comments on the chin.

Just my two cents but I respect KMs final decision if the guy remains banned.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

[DocParticipant]

If I had joined this site when I was 24 I would have lasted a few days such was my views back then.

We live we learn.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

[Dashing Young DissidentSpectator]

Zarathustra wrote:

There are some lines that cannot be crossed and this is one of them. Even as a “joke” a mental exercise, “venting” what have you. Society wants to paint us in a certain light and these kinds of posts contribute to the misconception. Its easy to say NFG, but violence against women is not how I want our communityy to be identified.

And what lines are those? Speaking your mind? I know its the sites rules but I think alot of guys were way too harsh on him, and love to be on higher moral ground when they’re no better.

F~~~ sake, hes one of us, he just aired how he felt in a angry moment.

[Dashing Young DissidentSpectator]

ghost wrote:

I was trying to help him as well. I don’t think he was trying to promote violence either. He deserves a second chance. You have my vote, DYD.

Thanks man. I just think its sad how the dude was f~~~ing lambasted for one thing he said and tossed on the s~~~ pile.

[ghostParticipant]

Dashing Young Dissident wrote:

Thanks man. I just think its sad how the dude was f~~~ing lambasted for one thing he said and tossed on the s~~~ pile.

I agree.

[Dashing Young DissidentSpectator]

Anyway, I’m just sticking my neck out for a fellow brother, as I would for May, Gambit and anyone else who knows me.

[Dashing Young DissidentSpectator]

Keymaster if you would consider, I’d be very much obliged. Otherwise this very expensive chair behind me gets it!

[ghostParticipant]

Dashing Young Dissident wrote:

Anyway, I’m just sticking my neck out for a fellow brother, as I would for May, Gambit and anyone else who knows me.

You are doing the right thing. You have my respect, DYD. This is the right thing to do.

Helping young, beaten down men is very important to me.

[AkhilleusParticipant 2486]

KM did the right thing all it would take is one article and this site is toast/hate speach/violence etc. I can agree about the post I went thru the red pill rage myself but esp in this day and age the c~~~asaurs herd is just looking for an one example to shut this down than where would we all be ? Needs of the many out weight the needs of the few. Simple sometimes terrible logic.

Aloha means family you don't leave family behind. Who will be the next Draconarius for MGTOW? MGTOW = brothers = acceptance = belonging

[Dashing Young DissidentSpectator]

Akhilleus wrote:

KM did the right thing all it would take is one article and this site is toast/hate speach/violence etc. I can agree about the ppst I went thru the red pill rage myself but esp in this day and age the c~~~asaurs herd is just looking for an one example to shut this down than where would we all be ? Needs of the many out weight the needs of the few. Simple sometimes terrible logic.

Sounds like you’re s~~~ scared of your own shadow.

MGTOW isn’t a movement or a gang etc, so some liberal feminist c~~~ group ‘exposing’ or putting MGTOW is a bad light means absolutely f~~~ all to me. It’s been done already. KM makes these rules for this WEBSITE only. It’s his website so we agree to the rules.

Can’t believe how cold hearted some guys are on here.

[ghostParticipant]

Dashing Young Dissident wrote:

Can’t believe how cold hearted some guys are on here.

Me either. I shouldn’t say this, but I will. The higher your testosterone, the more heart/emotion/passion you have. The most ruthless are usually the most caring as well.

[Dashing Young DissidentSpectator]

“Going your own way, no f~~~s given” to conversing with/associating with women, but s~~~ scared of what they are going to read/find out about you.

[AkhilleusParticipant 2486]

Bigger picture I want this site to remain active and open I totally feel for him but greater good this site needs to stay open and keep helping other men, it’s honorable your standing up for him and I can respect that but KM did the right thing.

Aloha means family you don't leave family behind. Who will be the next Draconarius for MGTOW? MGTOW = brothers = acceptance = belonging

[DocParticipant]

I personally think that as the thread the got TheWolfSheepFear banned unfolded he redeemed himself.
He admitted he was speaking metaphorically about the use of a back hander and said that sometimes women need one but he didn’t go as far as saying they should actually receive one.

He was rightly scolded for flying,so close to the line of acceptability and saw that.
Some youngsters are just not so switched on to what the line of acceptability is. I thought we are here for such youngsters.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

[ZarathustraParticipant 2246]

Dashing Young Dissident wrote:

And what lines are those? Speaking your mind? I know its the sites rules but I think alot of guys were way too harsh on him, and love to be on higher moral ground when they’re no better.
F~~~ sake, hes one of us, he just aired how he felt in a angry moment.

I think its pretty clear…. We don’t promote violence against women on this site. That’s the line that was crossed. We all have our boundaries, which we choose ourselves, but in the context of this site we do not allow this sort of thing. I think these principles are important. Whatever was intended, said subsequently is irrelevant.

To use an example from my personal life…. I was doing a lot of drugs and hanging out with a bad crowd a few years ago. I was in a pretty bad place and really didn’t give a f~~~ what happened. But then some dude I was partying with stole a small amount of cash from me (and some drugs to). For me that’s instant excommunication.

Afterwards others said: “Hey he apologised” he replaced the drugs and money, he bought you a present etc… it doesn’t matter there are just some things you only get one strike.

I read this post and I think he was just misunderstood. However, its a sign of poor judgement. The reason some topics are out of bounds is there is too much leeway for misunderstanding. Some things you juts cannot do or say, in any context.

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