Relationships should not be "work".

[Anonymous 14]

You hear this s~~~ all the time, “you need to work hard to make a relationship work”. Usually this is code for man up and be a slave. Look, I get it, I was once a testosterone filled kid who had to learn the hard way that pleasing a woman on multiple levels was indeed a tough job and a bad idea at the same time. Guess what happens with age if you are lucky or smart enough to have dodged the machine gun bullets of marriage, kids, and mortgages? You start naturally not giving a s~~~. Your sex drive declines, your need for female validation declines as well as you have been there and done that and with every passing day you are less and less interested anyhow… Problem is way too many men get ground up in the machine that takes the form of a contract between man, woman, and State before they even have a chance to figure anything out.

Advice from a middle aged guy? Don’t f~~~ing do it, the life you save may be your own. I have seen the machine grind up many a friends over the years, including suicides and incarcerations.

The best move in a losing game is to not play.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Anonymous wrote:

Relationships should not be “work”.

AGREED. Big time.

Anonymous wrote:

You hear this s~~~ all the time, “you need to work hard to make a relationship work”

Then they are with the wrong person.

I’ve been in relationships that didn’t take ANY “work” – and they were the ones I can speak about most positively. But when I “worked” to try and make it work (read: “not fail”) it was the biggest mistake and approach. As well as listening to ANY female opinion on the matter.

“You need to COMPROMISE to make relationship work.”

“No you don’t. The minute you start squawking about anything, and start telling me what you don’t like about me, it’s time for you to GO.”.

“Men and women need to explore their MUTUAL fantasies!!”

“There is no such thing as a “mutual” fantasy. There is no mutual fantasy where a woman is skipping through a field of flowers hoping for her prince to show up…. and then a man on a white horse trots along exactly when she wants, and arcs his glob across her face. There is no such thing as a MUTUAL fantasy. Because YOURS. BORE. US. And OURS. OFFEND. YOU.“

“But relationships take work!”

“Then you’re with the wrong person”.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[GrumpyParticipant]

Good post Joe
If its work, then its a job, if it’s a job then you should be paid in cash for working at that job.
Relationships shouldn’t need “hard work” they aren’t much fun then, and like a s~~~ty job you’ll end up quitting.

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

[Anonymous 43]

tru dat, man up = be a slave to the woman. fuk dat.

c~~~ told me that in marriage counseling, and the cuck agreed with her. Wait, I’m stay at home dad, going to school, on the deans list, volunteering in my kids school and their softball team, building sets for their dance recital taking them to their lessons, renovating the house, doing a giant ass landscape project, cooking cleaning laundry and putting up with everyone’s bulls~~~, and I need to man up? Are you kidding me?

feck off all yall, councelor, her family, and the c~~~ and anyone else riding my ass into the ground.

Anyone outside the family thought I was made out of awesome and wished their husbands would do half of what I did for my family.

F~~~ the c~~~ twice, for being a f~~~.

She cheated on me, she didn’t work at keeping the relationship going, she f~~~ed the two kids and me right in the bungus the second she opened f~~~book for the first time and registered. How many lives has that dude f~~~erberg and his facebook wrecked? God rot facebook. my marriage wasn’t perfect, but the c~~~ certainly blew it all to hell by straying. I rode that right into the ground and I almost killed myself in the process.

What takes work is realizing that f~~~ing around is bad, and resisting powerfully tempting urges is monumentally dificult. Don’t go to face book. Don’t sign up secretly. Don’t go looking up old classmates, the ones who you wanted to date 20 years ago. Don’t go hook up with these people and f~~~ up their marriage. Don’t f~~~ them repeatedly in the Chad’s trailer in the woods 50 miles from home. Don’t blow up your own 10 year marriage, don’t blow $300,000 on a divorce to a stay at home dad with no assets, Don’t poison the children and shut dad out with court orders and jail. That takes work…avoid temptation and stay the f~~~ away from evil s~~~. Its in the Lords Prayer that every Sunday school drop out can recite.

[MGTOW_MikeParticipant 6253]

Tom Leykis says if relationships require work, then you are doing it wrong.

A tranquil mind is neither happy nor sad, it is uninfluenced by external conditions.

[HitmanParticipant]

i took KM’s line and really used it…
“i don’t want a SERIOUS relationship,
i want a FUN one”
when it’s not fun anymore,
they are stranded by me.
forever.
one chance per woman per lifetime.
.
i WORK to make money,
NOT to have a woman around.
If she aint FUN it’s DONE !!!

[Anonymous 6]

Listen that line has never made sense to me. I work 40+ hours a week. I come home and have to do stuff around the house like ironing, moping the floor, clean this and that, etc. etc. Why on God’s green earth would I want to work some more on a relationship? Seriously, I’d have no time for myself or to relax. It would just be strait working… for other people mostly.

This part of the reason that I’m some kind of MGTOW. I want to relax and do my own thing. I don’t want a competitor, I don’t want to constantly have to justify myself, I don’t want to “compromise,” I just want to be me and to seek out where my spirit takes me. No amount of the lady part is worth changing that.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Hitman wrote:

i took KM’s line and really used it…
“i don’t want a SERIOUS relationship,
i want a FUN one”

I use it whenever a woman talks about a “serious” relationship.

I know she means “committed” of course … but that’s why she’s mentally f~~~ed up. Before even she meets the guy, she goes INTO a dating situation expecting some moron to be interested in her for a “serious” relationship — BEFORE has met him — else she sees no point in dating him at all.

“I am only interested in guys who want a serious relationship!!”

It’s SO stupid.

That’s why wouldn’t bother explaining her own insanity to her.

1. Who the f~~~ whats a “serious relationship” with a woman he hasn’t even MET yet. That’s not even up to him! It depends on who she is and what kind of person she is.

2. Who the f~~~ wants a “serious relationship” at all?!!! The only kind of relationship worth having is a FUN relationship – or none at all.

When you put it to them like that, the stunned expression is priceless.

The female approach to this all is so whacked.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[TheStormWithinParticipant 778]

You have no earthly idea how many times I’ve had this argument with people. Relationships being “work” is an absurd notion. Where’s the appeal in something like this?

Sure, they’re “work” for people who are f~~~ing oblivious to the incompatibility staring them right in their faces, or they’re aware of it, but live in denial.

I had a relationship for 6 years that was NOT work. We never fought, she never nagged me, the sex was incredible, but she eventually made friends with a few women who convinced her she and I needed to be married. And that was the end.

Just as “relationships should not be work”, they should also not be considered a good idea.

Aunt Esther: Fred, I'll have you know this body was blessed by Mother Nature!! Fred: Well, too bad your face was cursed by Father Time!

[KeymasterKeymaster]

TheStormWithin wrote:

Relationships being “work” is an absurd notion. Where’s the appeal in something like this?

This is what she means by “relationships are work”.

I mean, doesn’t that just explain f~~~ing EVERYTHING? That link is a veritable direct porthole into the skewed minds of women and their bulls~~~ “relationship advice”. It single handedly answers almost any situation I can reflect back on where nothing was really wrong and they created conflict, tears and drama for NO reason – just to test the “strength” of it.

And the more upset the man is, the better it is???

Female “relationship advice” can just f~~~ off.

TheStormWithin wrote:

Sure, they’re “work” for people who are f~~~ing oblivious to the incompatibility staring them right in their faces, or they’re aware of it, but live in denial.

A few days ago, I happened to see a clip from rerun of SexAndThe City as part of another youtube video, and the idealistically-minded naive brunette (the cute one) said “RELATIONSHIPS ARE HARD!! THEY TAKE WORK!!” and I just face-palmed right there.

You’re with the wrong person honey. Get single and stay that way. .. before you create more unnecessary “work” for a man in the catastrophe you call a “relations~~~t”.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Keymaster wrote:

Because YOURS. BORE. US. And OURS. OFFEND. YOU.“

I don’t know about other men, but they’re only “offended” by my fantasies because my fantasies don’t involve them. For the most part they can’t even comprehend my fantasies. Like the one about eventually having my own secret batcave workshop / garage. The last woman I mentioned that to told me it was, “Stupid because wouldn’t a bigger house be better?”

And as to their fantasies? Well the lines to see 50 Shades say enough about that already. The fact is they DO want a man shoot his wad across their faces, but they’d prefer him to rough them up a bit first so they can pretend the sex wasn’t their responsibility. Then they want him to hand them a s~~~load of money “just because”. That’s more whorish than boring.

[Knights Templar RisingParticipant 5106]

@joe

Perfectly said, and wonderfully succinct. From another middle age guy, you perfectly captured what men of our wisdom know. Whether it be from getting ground up in the machine, or someone who dodged the bullet and can view the relative horror from their neutral vantage point.

The family unit is long dead. That’s all any young man needs to know.

Sovereignty above all else.

[Red KnightParticipant 720]

Sounds like a legit post to me! I guess I’m one of those testosterone fueled idiots right now that you speak of. But I’m out to bang lots of chicks now for the fun of it, and I ain’t getting involved with any of ’em. Stay red!

Formerly MoneyOverBitches

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