REFLECTIONS ON TRUMP'S ELECTION

[It’sallbsParticipant]

Faust For Science wrote:

The standard tactic of one whom has lost the debate and has been caught in a conspiracy is to declare that everyone is part of the conspiracy. All in an attempt to muddy the waters for the guilty.

And you think conspiracies don’t happen?

The entire system that enslaves us all is a conspiracy.

Time will show I’m 100% correct and I really wish I wasn’t.

It is the same in Britain with the unelected house of Lords and all those trying to stop Brexit because they are on massive EU pensions.

It’s funny you mention debate faust because the entire debate right vs left, republican vs democrat is phony.

That is what you can’t or won’t see.

Trump is pure blue pill think about it, look at his actions etc it is all about self adulation.

The model wife he bought, the over ornate trump tower….

Is he right in some of what he says-yes will he do anything about it – no.

Watch the film Green quarter about Iraq

read 1984, and A brave new world.

Read animal farm.

The conspiracy as you call it is very real my friend.

http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

[It’sallbsParticipant]

narwhal wrote:

I’ve been trying to listen to progressive/liberal arguments lately. The problem is, there really isn’t an argument, nothing that isn’t complete anyway. By ‘complete’ I mean that they make few points and fail to acknowledge any facts that don’t support their narrative. They twist statements to mean something that no logical person would conclude. They name call and destroy the reputation of anyone who doesn’t agree with them. They apply standards to others that they would not imply to themselves.

The problem I see with Trump is that he isn’t above all of this, and honestly, doesn’t play this political game very well. He doesn’t have exemplary character and isn’t skilled at hiding that. He is an easy target and I am not proud of many of the things he’s said and done.

And I don’t care. The people have grown tired of the noise, tired of told how they should feel, tired of the lies. I want actual results. Not empty promises. I am more than willing to ignore Trump’s s~~~ty behavior if it means getting actual results that make sense.

On a side note, Trump’s presidency has brought so much to light, at least for me. It is abundantly clear that MSM and judiciary are rooted on the liberal side. There is no way you could see it otherwise. Most of the republicans are RINOs who are completely out of touch with their base. And elections matter.

I don’t think the attack on Trump will end anytime soon. I only hope that he can get enough successes through to the point where it becomes extremely difficult for voters to ignore the substantial progress. It’s hard to hold out hope for that though.

Yes because they just repeat the baseless, evidence free, garbage spewed out by the BBC, CNN, ABC -divide and rule that’s all it is…

Trump, Clinton, Obama -all one in the same

http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

[MagusParticipant 424]

It’sallbs wrote:

But you see that is the plan. Trump vs Clinton was a charade you veted for one of two faces of the same little Cabal. Your democarcy is and always was a charade.

I seem to rember everyone saying Obama was greta new change etc etc and what auselss a hole he turne dout to be.

The only president you have had that was any good was shot dead by the deepsatet er sorry I mean Lee with amagic bullet-pleas edont kil me or put me in prsion GCHQ and if your wtachingw hcih you probbaly are I dont belive your bulls~~~ about Russia either.

Yep, totally agree. Oh wait. Not totally. I think Kennedy was also a POS.

[It’sallbsParticipant]

Magus wrote:

It’sallbs wrote:

But you see that is the plan. Trump vs Clinton was a charade you veted for one of two faces of the same little Cabal. Your democarcy is and always was a charade.

I seem to rember everyone saying Obama was greta new change etc etc and what auselss a hole he turne dout to be.

The only president you have had that was any good was shot dead by the deepsatet er sorry I mean Lee with amagic bullet-pleas edont kil me or put me in prsion GCHQ and if your wtachingw hcih you probbaly are I dont belive your bulls~~~ about Russia either.

Yep, totally agree. Oh wait. Not totally. I think Kennedy was also a POS.

that’s interesting, I don;’t know a lot about Kennedy only some of the speeches he made.

What didn’t you like him was he another Trump ie just full of s~~~ that he thinks people want to hear when he was really one of them?

If so why did they kill him? Because I don’t think anyone believes Oswald did it.

http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22584]

It’sallbs wrote:

And you think conspiracies don’t happen?

You are saying that. Not I.

Whether you know it or not, I am pointing out what you state is the poison of “moral equivalency”. Saying everyone in the power structure is part of a conspiracy is just as poisonous as saying that there is no conspiracy.

Saying “everyone is evil” is just as wrong as saying “there is no evil”.

“Moral equivalency” was created by “bad people” whom do “bad things” and use “moral equivalency” as justification the lie that everyone does those those “bad things”.

President Trump’s actions so far as a man that is trying to key is campaign promises and whom is opposed on almost all sides by the establishment.

[It’sallbsParticipant]

Faust For Science wrote:

President Trump’s actions so far as a man that is trying to key is campaign promises and whom is opposed on almost all sides by the establishment.

It’s a charade faust.

Faust For Science wrote:

am pointing out what you state is the poison of “moral equivalency”

No it isn’t. what I’m point out is perception deception.

Trump was built up by the media, he was bessy mates with the Clintons for years.
One minute he says she should be in prison the next he says how much he respects her and how much America owes her.

Wake up man almost everything about how you think the world works is bulls~~~.

http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

[MGTOW KnightParticipant 7477]

The lizard people run everything guys let us be real. F~~~ the illuminati reptiles.

Fuck bitches... literally and metaphorically

[It’sallbsParticipant]

Let me put it another way.

In sales you plant the idea in someone’s mind.

You create the problem/fear and build it up and build it up and build it up only at the last minute do you come riding to the rescue with the solution.

let’s look at 911 Faust. You know how a lot of people think it was an inside job, well I’m 90% it was but either way it was a god send for the American government. Gaining support for the pre planned invasion of 7 countries.

Everyone in the UK remembers Tony Balir and the dodgy dossier.

http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

[It’sallbsParticipant]

MGTOW Knight wrote:

The lizard people run everything guys let us be real. F~~~ the illuminati reptiles.

And tat my friend is what tehy wnat you to do , mck peopel who point out teh truth> which is why teh medi aonly ever focuse on teh nutcase s~~~ Icke said rather than te countles sthings he said 25 years ago that he ahs been prove dright about.

I assume you don’t still belive girls are made of sugar and spieca nd all things nice do you?

Yo are making teh same mistake as teh foosl who get married and tehn shame attack, mock us MGTOW, excatly teh same/.

http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22584]

It’sallbs wrote:

Trump was built up by the media, he was bessy mates with the Clintons for years.

Actually, that soured in the late nineties when Trump learned what the Clintons were really doing.

You miss my point. And your point seems to be since you believe everyone in power is part of the globalist establishment the globalists are to powerful fight, there is no point in fighting, and to accept your fate as a slave to the globalists.

By having such beliefs this would make you are a loyal servant to the globalists you complain about.

If that is your belief than I am glad you are in the minority and there are tens of millions of people in this nation with far more courage and hopes.

It’sallbs wrote:

Wake up man almost everything about how you think the world works is bulls~~~.

I use the ancient rule of “follow the money” to determine how the world works. What do you use to determine how the world works? What chain of reasoning do you use?

[MGTOW KnightParticipant 7477]

Faust For Science wrote:

You miss my point. And your point seems to be since you believe everyone in power is part of the globalist establishment the globalists are to powerful fight, there is no point in fighting, and to accept your fate as a slave to the globalists

If anything this election was a big middle finger to the Elite. Thomas Jefferson once said, “Educate and inform the whole mass of the people… They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty.” If people wake up, we as a human race can throw off the shackles from those who wish to capitulate us.

Fuck bitches... literally and metaphorically

[It’sallbsParticipant]

Faust For Science wrote:

It’sallbs wrote:

Trump was built up by the media, he was bessy mates with the Clintons for years.

Actually, that soured in the late nineties when Trump learned what the Clintons were really doing.

Bulls~~~

You miss my point. And your point seems to be since you believe everyone in power is part of the globalist establishment the globalists are to powerful fight, there is no point in fighting, and to accept your fate as a slave to the globalists.

No my point is Trump is one of them

By having such beliefs this would make you are a loyal servant to the globalists you complain about.

If that is your belief than I am glad you are in the minority and there are tens of millions of people in this nation with far more courage and hopes.

You osund liek a TUna you are having massive jumps in logic, misrepresentingw hat Isaid, saying I said things I din’t say. You have no idea how much courgae I may or may not have.

Your TunaIve thought that before.

It’sallbs wrote:

Wake up man almost everything about how you think the world works is bulls~~~.

I use the ancient rule of “follow the money” to determine how the world works. What do you use to determine how the world works? What chain of reasoning do you use?

http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

[It’sallbsParticipant]

MGTOW Knight wrote:

f anything this election was a big middle finger to the Elite. Thomas Jefferson once said, “Educate and inform the whole mass of the people… They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty.” If people wake up, we as a human race can throw off the shackles from those who wish to capitulate us.

NO

They thought it was.

And that is one of the ways the few control the many. You though your were voting for change, just like they did when they voted Obama.

Who chose the candidates?

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[It’sallbsParticipant]

Put the lizard thing out of your mind and listen to what he says and the logic and how he arrives at his conclusions.

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[Hombre LibreParticipant 261]

Thank you all for responding to my original reflection on Trump election. (HA! that rhymes!)

I was curious to see who would respond with their tribal/religious/political mammal midbrain, and bicameral mind, AND, who would respond with their rational neo-cortex.

In 1976, psychologist and Princeton lecturer Julian Jaynes published The Origins of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind, a radical detailing of mankind’s ascension to a state of true consciousness. According to Jaynes, humans only developed the ability to think for themselves, consider their actions, and stand aware of their own awareness about 3,000 years ago. Before then, they took orders from voices inside their heads, which they believed to be deities. To sum up, for further discussion this evening: Here is my specific quote:

“Understanding the bicameral mind, and how religion, and even politics, is the desire to hear commanding voices, often motivated by the chemistry of our mammal midbrain, you or I can probably ‘own’ THOSE minds”.

BROTHERS!! To YOUR increasing independent AND power over your brain,life and the minds of the sheeple!

HOMBRE

[Can’t Stump TrumpParticipant]

Hombre Libre wrote:

they elected someone barely qualified to operate a can opener

Sounds like someone’s been watching some fake news.

Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.

[MagusParticipant 424]

Faust For Science wrote:

If so why did they kill him? Because I don’t think anyone believes Oswald did it.

Kennedy was an Irish Catholic. He got no respect from the top fiefdoms in our government. What president goes around dating Marilyn Monroe, a gold digging whore, openly while married? Or plays around with the rat pack? Or had he audacity to do all the stuff Kennedy did. He was like Princess Di. And after Kennedy got burned with bad information from the CIA, FBI, etc., on topics like Cuba it was like we had two governments. The good old boys fixed things with magic bullets and got somebody in office they could work with.

Obama could have been the next Kennedy but was too smart. All that stuff Obama had said before he became president was just BS. Once in office he carefully did what the corporations told him to do.

[It’sallbsParticipant]

Can’t Stump Trump wrote:

Hombre Libre wrote:

they elected someone barely qualified to operate a can opener

Sounds like someone’s been watching some fake news.

NO he is right trump is a charade. The news is largely fake though.

http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

[It’sallbsParticipant]

You remember Reagan-a puppet.

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[It’sallbsParticipant]

Magus wrote:

Faust For Science wrote:

If so why did they kill him? Because I don’t think anyone believes Oswald did it.

Kennedy was an Irish Catholic. He got no respect from the top fiefdoms in our government. What president goes around dating Marilyn Monroe, a gold digging whore, openly while married? Or plays around with the rat pack? Or had he audacity to do all the stuff Kennedy did. He was like Princess Di. And after Kennedy got burned with bad information from the CIA, FBI, etc., on topics like Cuba it was like we had two governments. The good old boys fixed things with magic bullets and got somebody in office they could work with.

Obama could have been the next Kennedy but was too smart. All that stuff Obama had said before he became president was just BS. Once in office he carefully did what the corporations told him to do.

…same as Trump.

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