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“we’re sorry, we believe you are not a good fit for this company, we need to let you go.”
Probably the 7th or 8th time I’ve heard this, and I’m not exaggerating. I became MGTOW shortly after my divorce but this story isn’t about her, this is about how life has been since. From one company, career, opportunity, to another I’ve had to deal with women, be it in leadership or a coworker, it just never ends. I’ve been accused of sexual harassment, sexual assault, and just being uncomfortable to be around, I’ve been basically called an attempted rapist, demeaner unbefitting, <- whatever that really means, and generally tossed aside as garbage in society by the voice and finger of women.
Prior Military, Eagle Scout, Single Father, none of these things society even cares to know or see when evaluating my worth, I’ve been accused so many times I actually believed there was something “I” was doing, because they can’t ALL be wrong. There must be something wrong with me that I don’t see. So I began reflecting on myself, my ex-wife said I was a big flirt, a ladies-man she called me. Her self-esteem or lack there of dictated my every move during our marriage, so it was confusing to see her proud, of her “hot husband” but angry that women thought the same thing.
anyway
I’ve been accused of “soliciting sexual favors” in the workplace, when a woman in the workplace grabbed my c~~~ and said “f~~~ me during lunchbreak.” and I said no. Because I said NO she felt rejected, and projected her shame by making me look like a terrible person, and getting me fired before anyone heard my side of things, or even cared to listen. So by not f~~~ing her entitled c~~~ when she asks for it, I’m the serial offender? Another case, a woman asked me what I thought about her, she was dealing with self-esteem issues, and went to me for confirmation. I told her she was of course beautiful, and told her that I was impressed with her work ethic, her intelligence, and abilities. I also commented that she should be proud of her accomplishments and not worry so much about looks in the equation, that who she is as a person is what men will find more desirable than just her figure. Basically I was trying to get across that trying to project her worth as a sex object was not what I would find attractive, as biologically f~~~able she was.. “i didn’t say that to her” but you get the jist.
She found a way to be insulted, I guess I gave her intellect too much credit, and decided to tell H.R. that I had commented to her that she should just look hot, because that’s all that matters.. “something like that” apparently she got the exact opposite, and projected her insecurities onto me, and once again… unemployed.
After my 3rd reposession, and relocating to a slum apartment so I can take the bus to whatever job I hope to get, I started playing smart. I got a cheap phone, and replaced my nicer one, because it had about 10x’s the battery life. I did this so I could have it recording all day at work, and you won’t believe how many women were approaching me, flirting with me, or trying to argue with me.
I had a woman try to humiliate me in front of trainees, so I asked her to continue the conversation in private. We sat down in a room and I let her start grilling me, yelling at me, raising her voice, pounding the desk, etc. I remained calm the entire time, and stated my case, asked her why she was yelling, etc. After all of it, she decided that me winning our little argument wasn’t going to stand, she went to higher-ups and accused me of insulting her, cussing at her, and something about “making babies” she can’t quite remember..
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So I brought in the recording, and let them listen to the entire thing. At first they wouldn’t even accept the recording, then I leaned across the table from them and said, “If this is a case of he-said she-said, here’s the truth, if you don’t listen and accept her for the liar she is, I will sue your asses for sexism, I’m tired of this.” So they listened, and they were appalled, angered, frustrated, and shook their heads, how dare I record a conversation!!
You see, it doesn’t matter if you have the evidence to back yourself up, not in the tribunal of H.R. with their sexual harassment videos, and feminist statistics and narratives. You are replaceable, because there are many other able bodies men to do your job, in fact… they need more women in that field anyway, so there’s a new job opening just for some half-achieving waste of life.
They didn’t fire me however, they couldn’t. Instead they educated me on how recordings in the workplace is illegal, as per sensitive company information etc. So I suggested a NDR “non-disclosure agreement” that I will only use the recordings to defend myself against accusations or to assist in any investigation the H.R. needs, and if there is nothing of importance on the recording I will delete it. If by chance something were to be leaked to the public about company goings-on I would of course be liable, and could be held completely responsible.. etc.
They at first, didn’t want to give me that opportunity, after all, it makes their job in firing me so much harder. But they caved soon after, when I showed them my top-secret military clearance. What happened to her? the verbally abusive woman that lied and tried to destroy a mans’ career?
You guessed it. “Nothing” They had a talk with her, mainly to show bipartisanship and I’m sure they just asked her to “remember correctly” next time.
After that, she had it out for me.
Ultimately she won, after she had another female right out accuse me of approaching her desk, apparently resting my c~~~ bulge on her desk and asking if she had lunch yet? Pointing at my bulge.
Ok here’s something I don’t get, whenever they lie and try to make you look like a bad guy, why do they use the most chouvenistic examples of some guy being a disgusting sexual pig. It blows me away, how people can believe these rediculous, completely out of character examples of something offensive.
That would be like accusing Ghandi, of mooning children while smearing his face in a cheeseburger… don’t believe me? or then you’re a misogynist. Listen and Believe..
So I lost my job, because I didn’t have a recording of anything on that day, because nothing happened that day. So I deleted it. So they found a way to sneak around the recording, by just simply making something up on a random day. I don’t know what they were really trying to accomplish, maybe I wasn’t available for them to f~~~, maybe I expected too much from them, maybe my standard of professionalism was “oppressive” to them. I will never know. But they got rid of me the same.
I recently lost a 6 figure income, gone. poof,
It was an amazing career in sales, I was my own boss, worked 10 days on, 10 days off, made about 10,000 a trip. I loved it, being 30 years old and I felt like I had made it. This was it. I was forgot, women are out there.
I woman had damaged a piece of property I was selling at 999.99, as she slowly walked away pretending nothing had happened, I spoke out and said
Mam, are you ok?” she ignored me, “Mam, please be careful next time” and I continued back to my job. She decided that I had, and I quote “Asked if she wanted to see my dick, and if I could have a blowjob in the parking lot.”
Camera evidence would obviously show we did not have such a conversation, we never even made eye contact, and it would show her damaging the item, giving us a clear motive to her smearing my reputation. But the company had no interest investigating… if a woman says you did it, you did it. We don’t want to look like we are victim blaming, or denying a woman of her rights…
So I was fired.
Well, not fired, sent home, to wait for a call, or e-mail, or something telling me if I still had a job or not. So I gave up on the company.
So there it went, a 6 figure sales income where I had no co-workers, just me, and my work ethic, to finally get paid what I deserved.. and a woman still found a way to destroy it. So here I sit, single father with a 8yr old daughter, these women have been attacking me since I got divorced 5 years ago, and it just hasn’t stopped. I don’t know what I will do, or which direction I should go in, but at this point my child’s future is all that matters. Unfortunately having a child does dictate my life in most regards, but it doesn’t change my perspective on reality, doesn’t change my philosophy, and it’s not my daughter’s fault for how her mother was, or how hostile the work environment is for an intelligent attractive white male.
So guys, no more infighting, this is the one place the oasis for sensable and logical people to congregate. don’t ever forget that.
Sincerely
EXODUSMGTOW
I actually believed there was something “I” was doing, because they can’t ALL be wrong.
Oh yes they can, oh yes.
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
I had a friend lose his job for commenting positively on a co-workers new hair-do (Home Despot). Different friend got fired because he wouldn’t hire an unqualified woman internally than a qualified woman externally. The unqualified bitch cried wha wha sexism times misogyny and HR canned him.
Welcome ExodusMGTOW
I have read similar posts here. There are many men that would offer the opinion that the hostility you are receiving is spawned by a couple of things.
The first is that you are not married, and therefore not under a woman’s control. This makes you dangerous in some way and must be harnessed or banished.
The other is that you are an attractive man. That an attractive, single man is not interested in the women in his surroundings is de facto disapproval, and in their own minds, an excuse for their behavior. If you started dating or were still married then this may not be the case. Not a recommendation for you plight. It’s just speculation.
The fact that you are an unmarried, attractive, and capable man is a perfect trifecta in which vaginal rancor and hostility can find a target. This also obliquely detracts from their own incompetence.
I would be interested if you were to start to wear a wedding ring at you next job, whether this behavior persisted or not. I don’t want to recommend this as a fix for you situation. To do this reminds me of a homosexual man bringing pictures to work of a nonexistent wife and family so that he can stay in the closet just to keep his job.
I would like to know that if this cuts down or eliminates you issues that you have had, then it would confirm a lot of suspicions on the part of many MGTOWs that have theorized the two reasons above.
"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.
WOW! yeah it’s only getting worse out there; not just woman either. Also former military (I don’t regret my service, but NEVER again) just to be spit on basically, rude people, I mean…I’m finding alot of people just do not have any respect for ANYONE, YET if you were to treat people the same way, it’s like; oh my god your the biggest f~~~ing asshole to ever walk the face of the earth? I dropped alot of friends actually (going strong for 2yrs). Ends up, most were assholes that would throw you under the bus. Problem is, they still f~~~ing ask about me? I’m the biggest asshole now? WTF!? Red-Pill, I will never go back, impossible! YES, dealing with most woman (some can be really cool, and you get you hooked up right away, yes…some) but most; talking, customer service, front desk position, insurance…OMFG! The problem is; they are all in those positions, some of them are so dense, I understand… I can be very patient, I’m never rude, and can wait not a big deal. The school I attend, wow the staff their, un-f~~~ing real…most were rude as f~~~, why the f~~~ would I PAY to come to your school? Are you guys hiring? f~~~, I’ll be a secretary (I was in the Marines, I was a Radio-Operator but with the MEU, I had a mimms billet(PAPER PUSHING HO x10) for 2 years, and dealt with the CO, XO all the f~~~ing time, I dealt with dick heads, I dealt with doing 15 things at once all day on top of that; having to leave the BN at 7pm-3am for an HST because red-patchers need comm…woman Marines in the det…nah they were never asked to do that s~~~, oh and guess who got a f~~~ing NAM, not I they had to elect a “SGT” at the time for a fit record, I was a CPL at the time and I get pros and cons… a female SGT they just picked her, because she was thinking of re-enlisting, for her fit rep) You know what I didn’t give a f~~~.
I’m tired of just being treated like s~~~ from woman, and I’m very polite! oh here’s a cherry…I got assertive with a woman at the VA (check-up, I co=pay insurance) bitch was rolling her eyes at me and s~~~ for no f~~~ing reason, because they re-scheduled an appointment for the 3rd time, so I asked, when school starts back up (75 hrs/week of clinics and study) I cant be “f~~~ing” around like this. she got f~~~ing snooty, then two dudes that worked there must have smelled the puss in danger, crossed their f~~~ing arms and stared at me like I was a threat…un f~~~ing real! ITS A WOMANS WORLD!!
ExodusMGTOW what I think happened most of those cases is to be honest really simple they have a sense of pride although pride is not the exact right word I don’t know how to describe it differently. Well what that pride means is that all guys have to be like their little followers or in other words some sort of slave.
Now if like you , you deny them that pride by telling them “Hey I am not your slave, I do not follow you I am my own person you” you “insult” them or at least that is what they feel / how it feels like to them sadly for you they are a network of manipulation so if you insult one of them they tell the other girls / women how you insulted them and how you’re so terrible the conversation will go something like this: “oh yes girl that is terrible, how dare he say that. He should be fired for saying that. Lets go to (insert person capable of firing you) and report his terrible behavior.”
And well you know the rest. How they manipulate the manager or whoever is in power, they exaggerate what actually happened and lie about it just to get what they want if the manager doesn’t directly do what they want him to.At least that is my take on it sadly the only two ways to avoid it is to find a place to work where either there are no women or the people don’t condone lying and attacking others and actually care about the truth.
The second way is to avoid communication with female colleagues at all costs just don’t talk with them, don’t be close to them and if you ever have to make sure you have a colleague / friend with you that will stand up for you no matter what to be with you so they can’t lie (and that record everything on the day is a great idea but keeping track of everything will be hard if you manage to get enough income to actually keep everything recorded all the time every day on work for the amount of time they can say you did something to them then that is a good idea)I hope my opinion on this helped you in some way, enjoy your day.
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