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    Stealth
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    Phenomonology is a school of philosophy which emphasizes the importance of observation of the world (phenomena) before drawing conclusions about it. It reminds us to suspend our judgments about a subject until we have seen it play out in front of us and THEN build our theories, as opposed to creating theories which seem logical and then trying to impose them onto our experiences.

    Applying this to red-pill / blue-pill theory, red pill would seem to have more in common with phenomenology, in that most people here have seen the world and have drawn specific conclusions from experience about the natures of man and woman, the mob mentality of society, and the sweeping consequences of public policies. Many of us started with different pre-conceived notions about the world which have been corrected through experience.

    By contrast, we would criticize blue pill methodology for being either a) unrealistic idealism–clinging like a security blanket to unicorn theories about how the world should be but in denial about how it actually is (the opposite of the phenomenological method, putting idealistic theories before experience), or b) open to learning from observation, but simply lacking experience. These latter men have a greater ability to learn and will eventually become red pill once they gain more experience, while the former will become more bitter and passive-aggressive the more deeply they become entrenched in denial.

    Even as a man who has swallowed the red pill, I find some of my sticking points to be related to this issue of accepting that life is how I observe it to be. There is residual anger about questions like “Why are women so selfish and evil?” “Why is the law so biased?” “How can family members be so double-tongued?” –Questions which essentially boil down to “Why is the world different than how I expect it to be?” This is a source of tension and anger for a lot of new red pill guys, myself included. If I were a better phenomenologist, I would give up my pre-conceived notions, accept that this is simply how the world is, and adjust my expectations accordingly. While I still think we should fight injustice, I’ve noticed other men (presumably the more mature ones who have completed the process of accepting the world with its evils) advise to not be angry at the villains of this world (women and manginas), but instead to accept that is just how they are, and learn to keep them out of your life.

    I have a degree in philosophy so I know my writing can sound a bit abstract, but I hope this is helpful. I have to remind myself that good theories are born from observation–and not the other way around–and challenge myself to embrace these truths. It’s the experience of swallowing the red pill.

    "Once you’ve taken care of the basics, there’s very little in this world for which your life is worth deferring." -David Hansson. "It’s not when women are mean or nasty that anything is out of the ordinary. It’s when they are NICE to you that you have to be on high alert..." -Jackinov.

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    Phenomonology is a school of philosophy which emphasizes the importance of observation of the world (phenomena) before drawing conclusions about it

    Very interesting point you have, brother. As a Buddhist, I use meditation to study my mind and observe what is going on, rather than trying to judge, hold onto or run away from thoughts. I have learnt to let go of what society has drilled into my mind, including scientific theories in school and university. I like to keep an open mind rather than clinging onto illusionary concepts that are concocted by the mind.

    I see the world as raw as it is. Human beings are biological and promiscuous creatures. That is why I do not like to use shaming labels such as “slut” and “gold digger”, towards women. It is their nature. It is what it is. We either try to fight it in denial or we try to accept it. The reason for me going MGTOW has nothing to do with external conditions. It comes within myself. My decision to experience a true freedom from influence by external conditions.

    I can see the illusion of marriage as well. In my mind, it seems like a logical/smart move for a king/leader in an ancient civilisation to impose marriage for those people who want to have kids. The limited and depleting resources would make a king/leader very concerned for the welfare of the entire civilisation, hence a system of responsibility is required.

    The Buddha himself, refused to answer questions from people who asked him about the universe. He just replied, apparently, with the words “I do not know”.

    A tranquil mind is neither happy nor sad, it is uninfluenced by external conditions.

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    I am an observer of life.
    Being an introvert, who loves solitude makes this easy.

    I am stunned by the way culture has turned.
    Women have become “empowerd” by the enabeling hands of weak minded ” men” who have never matured to the point of not needing mommys approval any more.

    Women are spoiled children who live in a fantasy world, where they are more powerful then men.

    One must chose their battles.

    The planet has us out numberd.

    Live to fight another day.

    Thats why

    I go my own way.

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    Phenomonology is a school of philosophy which emphasizes the importance of observation of the world (phenomena) before drawing conclusions about it.

    Who rules mankind?

    My observation is that man ruled mankind but as I aged I observed that societal tension exists in order to one day have woman rule mankind.

    First, the woman moved the rule to the government. Next phase will be to women and then to a woman. You thought Hitler was bad. Wait. Just wait.

    It is just an observation.

    Peace brothers

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    That’s the crux of the inner fight between the dieing superficial Blue-Pill Self and the budding Red-Pill NFG Self, illusion and delusion vs reality based on experiences and knowledge.
    The anger comes from realising the chasm that exists between those extremes, what constitutes it ( lies, tricks, s~~~ tests and manipulation of all kinds ) and how to come to terms with it.
    For me, the anger will never go away, or maybe I don’t want it to go away, I’m not sure. I suppose letting go of it might mean I betray myself, forgoing any reciprocity that my subconscious yearns for but my intellect knows to be in vain. I guess it’s human nature to seek retribution, although not recommended.

    Thank you for that, Stealth. Nice read!

    Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
    Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
    #GenderSegragationNow!

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    Phenomonology is a school of philosophy which emphasizes the importance of observation of the world (phenomena) before drawing conclusions about it. It reminds us to suspend our judgments about a subject until we have seen it play out in front of us and THEN build our theories, as opposed to creating theories which seem logical and then trying to impose them onto our experiences.

    Far too many people are incapable of this, even here, and this is why most Red Pills do not get swallowed, let alone even examined. I like to call this Intellectual Materialism. This phenomenon of Intellectual Materialism is actually the #1 thing that holds mankind back in many arenas.

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    Accepting the World as it IS, instead of the way that I want it to be, IS a DAILY AFFIRMATION.

    Assimilating and Re-Assimilating the Red Pill is an ONGOING PROCESS.

    Overcoming Blue Pill tendencies, programming, thoughts, archetypes etc. is not a matter of “winning the war”, but rather one of “holding the line”, and not allowing yourself to fall (again).

    In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

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    Stockholm Syndrome is defined by three elements:
    Hostages perceive a psychological alliance with their captors as a survival strategy
    Feelings are the result of intimate time spent toghether
    Such feelings are considered irrational in light of actual danger

    I suppose what I’m trying to say is, seeing something for what it is, in every individuals mind, is what they beilieve they are doing. However they interprit reality, is what reality is to them.

    You cant convince someone of something they cant convince themselves of.My two cents.

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    As a Buddhist, I use meditation to study my mind and observe what is going on, rather than trying to judge, hold onto or run away from t

    i am right there with you on this Mike, although i do not consider myself a Buddhist, i meditate daily. i dont understand why i cant send you a personal message. What happened. I almost share your outlook precisely

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    Accepting the World as it IS, instead of the way that I want it to be, IS a DAILY AFFIRMATION.

    Assimilating and Re-Assimilating the Red Pill is an ONGOING PROCESS.[/qu This is a great insight & I agree totally. It has been my experience

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    i am right there with you on this Mike, although i do not consider myself a Buddhist, i meditate daily. i don’t understand why i cant send you a personal message. What happened. I almost share your outlook precisely

    Even the label Buddhism does not mean much to me. In fact I do not believe in modern Buddhism, it has become so distorted. When we accept mother nature and the universe for what they truly are, the energy which binds everything together flows freely. If we try to force things, it will only create tension and disrupt the flow of energy.

    There is no past/present nor future…all is one, exactly what quantum physics describes. I meditated on this concept and it makes total sense. What really separates the future, present and past? Is it one second, half a second, quarter of a second etc? We can keep reducing the time to an infinity small value such that the future/present/past start to merge together. In other words the “present” is fluctuating infinitely “fast”.

    A tranquil mind is neither happy nor sad, it is uninfluenced by external conditions.

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