Red Pill Only or MGTOW?

[FrederickTheGreatParticipant 235]

Is there a distinction in terminology for men who have taken the red pill but still choose to put aside their talents and life out of dependency to women in relations~~~s? That is, what do you call men who know exactly what dating and “romance” are really about but still choose them (not just casual sex but actually investing themselves emotionally and using their time to pursue relations~~~s rather than other ventures)? Are they still MGTOW? Is there a name for them?

My opinion is that they are not MGTOW, at least not while they are letting a woman define them. To be MGTOW, you must make the choice to go your own way, not a woman’s way, even if you are aware of the mistake that you are making. However, I’m open to other views.

[Silverstone the SecondParticipant]

We call those people idiots. Those people that know what’s really going on and still go after more than anything but casual sex are morons. Most men fall under blue pill I think.

Feminism is a movement where opinions are presented as facts and emotions are presented as evidence.

[TheroniusParticipant 975]

FrederickTheGreat wrote:

taken the red pill but still choose to put aside their talents and life out of dependency to women in relations~~~s?

Seems to me that they chose the blue pill, not the red one.

"I am is reportedly the shortest sentence in the English language. Could it be that I do is the longest sentence?" - George Carlin

[Blue SkiesParticipant 15665]

i think men who refuse to get married and are not desperate for female attention due to red pill reasons are considered mgtows. There are several levels of mgtows. It is fine to be high level or low level mgtow.

young men are more likely to be low level mgtows. Older men are likely higher level.

MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.

[The Moth Attracted to the FlameParticipant 2982]

That’s seems to be the blue pill still.

[VarunParticipant 2981]

They have taken the red pill…. but they choose not to believe in it.. hmm..

I thought I read somewhere that these were the Level 0 MGTOW. Correct me if I’m wrong, bu the leve 0s are those who, in spite of knowing the reality, prefer living in the dream.

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

[AscendedParticipant 698]

Blue Skies wrote:

i think men who refuse to get married and are not desperate for female attention due to red pill reasons are considered mgtows. There are several levels of mgtows. It is fine to be high level or low level mgtow.

Yup! I agree.
Basically that’s all that is essential.
If a man matches this, he is a MGHOW already. Anything else is optional.

If not -> Blue pill, mangina, white knight, c~~~ slave. Whatever you call them, we will understand, if you set it up the correct way. (eg. He got married even if he was aware of the divorce situation. There he goes, shown his true color that is blue pill after all)

"We are free to follow our own path. There are those who will take that freedom from us, and too many of you gladly give it. But it is our ability to choose – whatever you think is true – that makes us human. There is no book or teacher to give you the answers, to show you the path. Choose your own way! Do not follow me, or anyone else."

[huskerbaldguyParticipant 40]

Those who remain in these highly-controlled real-hate-shun-ships cannot say they TRULY took the red pill. I think some of these chumps are color-blind! :p

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