Red Pill Dating

[Anonymous 11]

I recently went on my first date as a Red Piller. It was a very weird experience for me. The date actually went really great. She and I met a month ago and had a rapport so obvious that others in our group were commenting to me on it. She recently moved to my town last week and looked me up. We’ve got some mutual friends who have vouched that she’s not an evil she demon.

It’s more like an internal conflict of the red pill knowledge within me. I just don’t fully trust women even this one who genuinely seems nice and is in great physical shape. She’s very intelligent with no kids due to infertility and has her s~~~ together. I know women can flip on a dime and have unknown orbiters so I’m leery.

My inclination is just to take it as it goes each day and not care either way. I’m just in virgin territory now and have no reference to guide me.

[Bl4ckSh33pParticipant 274]

Tread carefully.

I hate to break it to you, but what people call "love" is just a chemical reaction that compels animals to breed. It hits hard Morty then it slowly fades leaving you stranded in a failing marriage. I did it. Your parents are going to do it. Break the cycle Morty, rise above, focus on science. -Rick Sanchez

[Anonymous 12]

A long time ago I went on dates in a MGTOW type of way, I would make it clear well before that I wouldn’t be footing the bill for anything other than paying my own way, that I am not a wallet and that also I don’t believe in any nonsense about the 3rd date being the sex date etc.

I found most women were cool with it and even relaxed as it seems when a man pays for everything many of them feel obliged or that they will be pressured for sex at the end of it. From my own side I didn’t feel resentful that here I was footing the bill and getting nothing.

I think as long as you stay aware you shouldn’t have a problem.

 

 

 

[QcummerParticipant 652]

I suggest that you see her as much as possible and become a reference point for me. Report back frequently. Thank you kindly. 🙂

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

I will never have a relationship with a woman unless she can be a good mother to my and our future children. Never could understand relationships for companionship without kids. Kids is the only thing that makes a relationship worth the hassle
If you never had kids – you would never know

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[AncientwisdomParticipant 6089]

CP

She and I met a month ago and had a rapport so obvious that others in our group were commenting to me on

I dont think you should deny yourself the pleasure of someones company whom you enjoy. I recognize that society in general, and women in general are skewed against men, but if you enjoy her company then I would do just that: enjoy it until she gives you a reason not to.

Sex is also something we all enjoy and if you enjoy it more with a non pro, then theres nothing wrong with opening up that door. Im not some eunuch MGTOW who will never have any interactions with women. Quite the contrary I simply believe I have a cheat sheet on how to deal with women. Im at a place right now where Im not actively looking to meet women, but this is for personal reasons because Im dealing with other things; but if one came along that I enjoyed having a drink with and possibly being physical with, Id be open to it.

My point of view is this: men enjoy women, we just dont like what they have become in todays society. I love their bodies, I just detest if they have had a hundred c~~~s in their orifaces in todays slut era. I enjoy their childish charm, I just detest if they use it for manipulative, deceitfully-selfish gain.

I would enjoy it for what you can and know that your going into it with wide eyes open. The only part that would bother me is if she is tight with my inner circle of friends. Wouldnt want a he said she said drama down the road.

My 2 cents.

Resident cynic.

[EntropyParticipant 902]

Russky wrote:

I will never have a relationship with a woman unless she can be a good mother to my and our future children. Never could understand relationships for companionship without kids. Kids is the only thing that makes a relationship worth the hassle
If you never had kids – you would never know

Logic level 100. Good job man, and well put. I wish I had your brain (not in a weird way).

"Compare your lives to mine and then kill yourselves" -BBR

[Anonymous 1]

@CP

I wish you the best. I would advise not let your guard down though. Enjoy this relationship as much as you can, but always leave a room to bail just in case things don’t go as plan. And for the love of God don’t sign any contracts!

Good luck man, and congrats! 😀

[LonerBonerParticipant 358]

As all above pointed out – Tread carefully!

My last GF seemed like a great girl, not wanting me to pay for her, has her own job and was fun talking to accepting all my sometimes extreme opinions. But hey! Nothing is as good as it seems. Slowly she started to complain about my way of life and telling me how i should handle my kids and my ex.

Eventually her true side got out in the open, she really liked the c~~~ carousel, she didnt stop riding it even though she was getting seroius with me.
Dont trust this woman you are dating, odds are she is trying to only show you her best sides.

Keep clam i'm dyslexic.

[RoyDalParticipant]

Same as the above. My GFs all started out great, or else even in my blue pill days, I wouldn’t have gone out with them.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Anonymous 11]

Thanks guys, I’ve read everything and thanks for the wise words. Like I said this is the first time ever I’ve went out as a red piller, so it’s weird. The red pill is a guide map.

LonerBoner wrote:

Dont trust this woman you are dating, odds are she is trying to only show you her best sides.

I pretty much don’t ever fully trust any women even this one. They are into everything for themselves and have never met one not like that nice or nasty. There does reach a point where I eventually learn one’s behavior patterns and will grant some trust after that as I know the boundaries. I will trust a man much more quickly. Even this one chose me for a reason known only to her. Now, what is it?

Ancientwisdom wrote:

The only part that would bother me is if she is tight with my inner circle of friends.

Anonymous wrote:

if you enjoy her company then I would do just that: enjoy it until she gives you a reason not to.

This was more an outer circle of acquaintances so no chance of that. Up front, I’ve always kept a tight lid on my going out with women to my close friends and family. Women are subject to flaking out no matter how things seem on the surface to us plus you get a bunch of opinions that just don’t count.

AW: We’re the same class of MGTOW though I do fully understand men who want nothing to do with them though. One does have to tread carefully when dealing with them. I like your cheat sheet analogy. I think about it the same way. I don’t actively seek out women either this one just kind of dropped in. We had fun for a day.

Russky wrote:

If you never had kids – you would never know

I completely agree with your concept, Russky. Neither one of us have children so we both don’t know. I do know from the single moms I’ve gone out with over the years that it’s a pain in the ass though one way or the other. Meeting someone my age with no children is kind of a positive to me as it’s rare. She’s also cannot have any so baby rabies are not a threat. There are some benefits with going out with older women who are in shape. I would not recommend it for younger guys. There are certain types of women who’s company is actually pleasant, and they are few and far between.

LonerBoner wrote:

My GFs all started out great, or else even in my blue pill days, I wouldn’t have gone out with them.

Same here Roy and Limpan with the same results over and over too.

I think I’m going to just let it ride and let her play out her hand out as time as she will reveal herself to me. One thing goes South, and I will hit eject. I spent $5 total on cold drinks and ice. Our activity was free. We all know women can flake pretty quickly.

I’m very social. There are a few women where I do enjoy their company. They are scare, and I don’t believe in unicorns either so most I reject pretty quickly. She and I are both into physical fitness and get along well so that may be all there is to it.

I also realize they have hidden agendas, and somehow I have fit into it.

@BadKan: No contracts!

[Mango IngawayParticipant 2264]

RoyDal wrote:

Same as the above. My GFs all started out great, or else even in my blue pill days, I wouldn’t have gone out with them.

You know how it starts, you never know how it ends.

It is a common failing of childhood to think that if one makes a hero out of a demon the demon will be satisfied.

[ghostParticipant]

It won’t end well mate. You’re just fooling yourself if you think this girl is “different”. My advice is to not waste any time with her unless you’re okay with taking the risk that she turns into your worst nightmare.

[Anonymous 11]

@gambit: I agree none are really different and are all variations of the same theme. Red pill gives us the map. It’s realizing how they really operate and accepting it and working within the parameters. I’m also very close to my older sister who will spell out for me in man friendly terms exactly what they are thinking. She has taught me a lot about the hamster inside.

For me it’s all about controlling the risk. There are two different camps in our MGTOW community those who will dare playing with the fire suited up in red pill protection suits while others choose total avoidance. Total avoidance is the only way you’ll ever guarantee not to get ever burned. However, if someone can contribute something positive to my life I will accept it.

I don’t want a serious relationship, and I don’t think she’s after that either. I’m like AncientWisdom as I will allow a select few into my life. We do enjoy each other’s company, and I know she had fun. This means absolutely zero when hamster processed though. Women are notorious users. She may have been using me for an adventure. If so, I just continue on my way.

I need a heavier supply of red pills from the brothers right now to keep me strong and straight so I appreciate them all. Women know how to work us. I will eject at the first sign of crazy. The red pill really makes it more difficult as I’m always thinking what’s her hidden agenda. What’s below the surface? What is the hamster really doing here?

Blue pill is so much easier as you blindly stumble around ignorant to the consequences.

@Morlock: Awareness is very key. Thanks for the advice.

[bigboy83Participant 11312]

Just like my ex’s, anything starts high always declines. All she’s doing is selling herself, then comes reality.

Which is why we here, to begin with.

Shit Tested, Cunt Approved.

[Anonymous 11]

Yeah, BB you’re right. This is exactly why we’re here. Thanks!

This is a very challenging thing for me. The first real test of my Red Pill skills is what I’m beginning to believe. The first time I ever go out with someone as a Red Pill man, and I’m questioning everything about it as I should be. I will say the red pill does take a lot of pressure off of me and made the experience more fun for both of us. I was able to see her for what she is. I’m not saying she’s a bad person as I can usually read a woman pretty damn quickly, but a woman is still a woman. They all nag. I was really just being my true self take it or leave it.

Great responses from everyone and keeping me in proper prospective on this. I’m hoping sharing my experience will help someone else too. I’m really not getting any good advice from the blue pill friends that I selected to let know as a test. I trust this board more.

[ChristovParticipant 85]

My philosophy:

 

There’s nothing wrong with signing a deal with the devil, as long as you know the terms.

 

“MGTOW” means Knowing the terms.

[Anonymous 2]

I for one am glad to see a fellow MGTOW date, I myself am fond of women too. The reality is that we like pussy guys. I think it’s wiser to adapt our stance on pussy then to outright decline it. Regular sex makes me a more active, less lethargic man.

No co-habitation, no marriage and no children. Those are my terms and I have no qualms about making them known. I am also not falling for bulls~~~ monogamy anymore, women can buy such privilege later on in their carreer if a few years of positive interacts have been established. A stance like that scares away pussy that has no business with me, but still allows me to sample future waifus.

Condoms, STD tests are plain f~~~ing discipline go a long way. As long as she trusts YOU she’ll open up eventually and what will come out is either bats~~~ crazy or relatively agreeable. Get out at the first sight of actual inner demons and stay vigilant brother.

[Anonymous 11]

Anonymous wrote:

No co-habitation, no marriage and no children.

Bingo and thanks I., this one can’t have kids, confirmed. Plus hearing she’s not evil from third parties kind of helps which I actually have observed this in person now.

I can handle the rest of any of her potential bulls~~~ as there is no skin off of my back. I shall stay vigilant always. She’s well educated, fairly classy, and fit. However, the Red Pill gives me the insight on what she’s potentially capable of doing or hiding. I have zero hopes or expectations going into this. You’re right she’ll open up to me eventually, and I’ll know for sure.

We do keep up with each other. I’m just taking it slow as I really do not know what I’m dealing with here fully. It’s just weird as the red pill makes things crystal clear no illusions versus the old way of thinking that you’ve met “The One”.

This issue is probably the only schism MGTOWs have though I can respect the guys that refuse contact. It is very rational. I do know a few women that are worth keeping though you just enforce the limits.

I will not be controlled by one never have even as a blue piller. I can’t even say where this will head though we instantly got along strongly with 15 seconds of meeting. Kind of weird when that happens IMHO. None of this actually means a damn thing though.

You’re right bat s~~~ crazy or relatively agreeable are the only outcomes. I’ve dated bat s~~~ crazy, and that comes out pretty quickly if you keep your ears to the rails. She’s artistic which I’ve always seemed to attract. They are flaky by nature so we shall see what we shall see.

She wants to go out again though. At least she’s not a red head, I’ve had my fill of them. No mas!

[Deus Ex MachinaParticipant 1068]

Set boundaries early in the dating, you don’t have to outright tell Her you’re a MGTOW. However don’t let her cross a line you’ve already established in your life as a Red Pill Man.

 

Don’t allow her to

1. Always have You pay the bill

 

2. be an emotional tampon and/or dumping ground for her own personal problems(fine if she shares deep things, but don’t give her the idea you’re Dr. f~~~ing Phil)

 

3. making you feel obligated to do something you don’t feel like doing

 

4. expects you to show up on a whim, and if you show up late and she acts like a dead fish, leave her

 

5. don’t meet her folks just yet

 

6. Sex is mutual, not a reward, if she treats it as such, dump her

 

7. respecting your opinion, if she acts like you’re an idiot because you have a differing opinion, then she can f~~~ off

 

8. respect your personal space as well as hobbies, outlets,

 

9. Respect your “Guy time”, you wanna hang out with the boys, DO IT, don’t let her say otherwise

 

10. belittle, degrade, hit, or mock you in a malicious, or hurtful manner, that s~~~ is a one time thing. never to be repeated again. 

 

In the mean time, best of luck, let it play out for awhile. feel things out, test the waters, stay keen to your feelings, and if something don’t feel right, or you feel that something needs to be addressed, address it and make sure it doesn’t happen again.

 

Best of luck, don’t forget to take your Red Pill before bed.

"If You have the Tooth of a Whale, You must have the Whale's Jaw to hold it". (i.e. One Must have the right qualifications for leadership) -Hawaiian Proverb

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