Real reasons so many millennials live with their parents.

[chirParticipant]

1) Crippling student debt. (most graduates have an average of 37,000 in debt)
2) Unmarketable college degrees.
3) Little to no job prospects (See item 2)

http://www.market~~~ch.com/story/the-real-reason-so-many-millennials-still-live-with-their-parents-2017-07-31

Sixty percent of college grads are women. Of those 75 to 80 have useless degree’s. However, if they have good SMV they can turn it around if they find a man to marry and their debt becomes his.

So you young men out there. Don’t listen to the college guidance counselors about doing what you are passionate about. Look at what jobs make bank and find one you can tolerate plus do it well.

It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion, it is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning; it is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.

[Anonymous 42]

I do what I want to do, when I want to do it, like a lion hunting the safari for rising opportunity in a bubble popping, hyper manipulated molested free market place. Where all your earnings can be swindled away if you don’t hide your wealth from the swindlers and thieves in all branches government.

401K today, government forfeiture and nationalization tomorrow.

They can do anything they want now that the promises and restrictions in the US Constitution mean nothing anymore.

Budda-bing budda-boom, another new law to swindle private property away! More more more is all they ever say!

If they take 51% of your earnings in everything you touch, say, or do, then the system becomes the controlling interest thereby destroying your sovereignty and leverage on what’s the right thing to do, no different than a corporate hostile takeover, at that point it’s over, it’s not freedom when others control your greater half in the over all equation, they neither suffer the outcome or give a damn, they want theirs, and you’re the sacrificial lamb.

[narwhalParticipant]

Chir, I think that’s only part of the issue. It seems that teenagers are not being prepared to go out on their own very well either.

Part of that is parenting. Parents are not forcing (or allowing) their teenagers to take on responsibility like they used to. They don’t allow them to fail and have to fix their own messes. And yes, I think a lot of single mom’s are a big part of the brain. They don’t to let go of their babies.

I once dates a woman that allowed her 22 year old son to live with her. He was making pizzas at Little Ceasers, living rent free, playing video games, and smoking pot all day. This shouldn’t be allowed.

The other part is, I don’t think there are that many jobs available for teenagers. Adults (many illegals) have taken them and tried to change this starter jobs into living wage careers. Flipping burgers at McDonald’s is supposed to be the crappy job that gives you gas money and compels you to get a better job. It is not the job you support your 3 kids on.

Ok. Then do it.

[John Woods 13Participant 2855]

I find myself saying this very often lately, but it’s a sad, sad state of affairs.
If 30 is the new 20, it seems that 20 is the new 10 and most young adults that are supposed to start careers and begin to be productive and live on their own, are nothing more than mindless, helpless and useless teenagers. Kids that run around aimless, like headless chickens, having been raised by incompetent single mothers with money extorted from their divorce-raped, forcefully absent fathers.
It’s mind numbing and it’s wide spread.

The answer is NO. “I could but I won’t”. Memini murum!

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22521]

chir wrote:

1) Crippling student debt. (most graduates have an average of 37,000 in debt)
2) Unmarketable college degrees.
3) Little to no job prospects (See item 2)

4. Overinflated U.S. dollar.
5. Overinflated house market.
6. Overinflated prices on goods and item.

In the 1960’s, at minimum wage for a month in the U.S. would be able about rent a one bedroom apartment, feed, and cloth a normal person for a month with money left in their pocket for some fun.

Now, minimum wage for one month will not pay the grocery bill for one person for one month, let along pay for clothing, a home, and other items.

We are facing a duel situation of two workers revolutions happening at once.

One workers revolution is being clandestinely controlled by the globalists, whom caused this mess, to solidify their power-base in the form of a tyrannical Soviet Intellectualism. These puppets included SJWs, progressives, ANTIFA, the corporate press.

The other workers revolution has grown from the grassroots, where the workers of the U.S. have come together to support nationalism and put a pro-American man in the White House. That man is President Donald Trump and said nationalists workers are his supporters.

Of these two groups, those supporting President Trump have armed themselves to the teeth.

The globalists have convince their puppets to hate the nationalists.

The nationalists see the globalists for what they are and the suffering the globalists have brought them through their puppets. They hate the globalists and their puppets.

The U.S. is in a political cold civil war in this nation and it is likely only a matter of time before it goes hit. Both sides want it all and neither side will relent.

[Anonymous 5]

Brother, are you talking about me?!

Haha, good post. It’s 110% true, I’m the living proof of it.

Don’t judge, my father is a blue pill simp. My mother is an abuser, not physically, but mentally, and emotionally.

Brothers, I’m a mess…

[Point Of No ReturnParticipant 4074]

How’s this for an explanation:

Know when it is your duty to give them zero explanations for your actions.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22521]

Point Of No Return wrote:

How’s this for an explanation:

No. The real reason is overinflated dollars due money printed by the trillions into the hands of the globalists whom use the money to destroy U.S. jobs and lives by the tens of millions.

[joetechParticipant]

When the government announces 150,000 new jobs and the bulk of those jobs involve saying “Would you like fries with that?” No wonder millenials are living at home. Housing prices are inflated, wages are deflated, and kids are coming out of college under crushing debt. What would expect? A miracle? The miracle is that there isn’t armed revolution already.

"Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."

[chirParticipant]

Point Of No Return wrote:

How’s this for an explanation:

Well you see automation. I see opportunity. Those machines need repair, maintenance, programming, and a host of other things.

If I was a guidance councilor in high school I would say look at these fields:

electrician
electrical engineer
robotics maintenance
robotic engineer
programming
mathematics

It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion, it is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning; it is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22521]

chir wrote:

Point Of No Return wrote:

How’s this for an explanation:

Well you see automation. I see opportunity. Those machines need repair, maintenance, programming, and a host of other things.

If I was a guidance councilor in high school I would say look at these fields:

electrician
electrical engineer
robotics maintenance
robotic engineer
programming
mathematics

I fully agree with you. There are jobs to be had. The problem is the globalists whom open those factories (by buying them with money given to them through taxes) bring in foreigners for those jobs as slave wages. This is corporate welfare. Also known as true fascism (the marriage of industry and government). Socialize the losses and privatize the profits.

[Anonymous 8]

It’s the same story up here in Canada.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/young-people-living-at-home-1.3599364

There are very few options when it comes to affordable housing, fewer options when it comes to gainful employment at an entry level.

Students are graduating from College/University with little to no workplace experience and saddled with debt.

Finding a job which can pay the bills with no experience is not realistic.

Therefore they move back in with mom and dad because they can’t find a job to pay the bills.

Then it becomes a catch-22, can’t afford an apartment with no job, can’t hold a job with no apartment.

Once back at home they are likely to be paying off student loans and helping contribute to the household, not exactly planning for the future.

Young people aren’t abandoning the idea of moving out and settling down one day. They’re just choosing to delay it for logistical reasons.

In other words, there is a lack of opportunity which they have not been adequately prepared for.

There’s a whole mess of other factors contributing to this in Toronto as well:
-Luxury condos are sprouting up like weeds, while low income housing is being reduced and pushed further and further outside of the city. Foreign investors looking to make a buck.
-The cost of rent and utilities is through the roof, minimum wage is not a living wage.
-There is more demand than there is supply, when looking for apartments it’s not uncommon to see a dozen interested parties, all in the same unit. Bribes and bidding wars are not uncommon and landlords can cherry pick their tenants in many instances.
-Landlords prefer female tenants.

I’m planning on leaving Toronto, but first I want to have some savings, a plan on where to go and how to earn a living when I get there. Sometimes though, it feels futile, I’m on the wrong side of 30 with a spotty resume. I never went to university or college so at least I’m not in debt, but that also means I can’t land a job which can pay the cost of living with anything leftover to build a nest egg. Ultimately I’m paying the cost for poor planning and bad decisions I made growing up and I can accept that. So I’m basically just spinning my tires at this point, living hand to mouth.

[Anonymous 14]

Faust For Science wrote:

4. Overinflated U.S. dollar.
5. Overinflated house market.
6. Overinflated prices on goods and item.

In the 1960’s, at minimum wage for a month in the U.S. would be able about rent a one bedroom apartment, feed, and cloth a normal person for a month with money left in their pocket for some fun.

Now, minimum wage for one month will not pay the grocery bill for one person for one month, let along pay for clothing, a home, and other items.

Nailed it.

What we are seeing are the results of FIAT money being lent willy nilly so that the big dogs get rich in doing so all the while inflation due to increased money supply and wages not keeping up have crushed everyone.

This is a Slave and Slave owner situation, make no mistake. Those given the power to make money off of lending money they do not have has driven up the costs of EVERYTHING. In the 50’s you could do any old job and buy a house in a few years. With the massive amounts of money creation and lending housing prices have been driven up to insane prices that leave the everyman working his entire life to pay it off, that is if he can keep a job that pays well enough to do so the entire time… You think banks were foreclosing on houses at the same rate they are now back in the 50’s? 60’s? 70’s? 80’s? Not a f~~~ing chance, I don’t even have to go look it up.

Few know it, but men like Ron Paul are the only guys with answers to most of our problems. Everything else is band aids, bubblegum, bailouts, and BULLS~~~.

But the herd of useful idiots just keeps on going where directed…

[MonkParticipant 16988]

Why do so many UK millennials live with their parents?

Student debt? High house prices?

No.

They are entitled snowflakes who want to remain children. No nasty reality, No responsibility. Just playtime, forever.

[BushidoParticipant 637]

I find it interesting that in (former) American society, it is celebrated and arguably expected that on year 18, you’re out to college in a dorm, working part-time and later getting an apartment for yourself. This is based off the American Dream in which individuals are expected to stick out for themselves, become an entrepreneur or otherwise be successful in modern society.

I see in other countries that it is often unusual for families to separate; the family unit is cherished, and even a newlywed would likely receive a house on the edge of the parents’ property. It is likely based on economic status; i.e. low income family require more help while a high income family requires less.

Monk wrote:

They are entitled snowflakes who want to remain children. No nasty reality, No responsibility. Just playtime, forever.

A perfectly reasonable argument – the former generation’s helicopter parenting strategy created kids that don’t seek challenge and instead rely on a that family will provide opportunity for them.

For me personally, when I leave the military in two years I won’t be ashamed to stay with my father while I go to community college just 15 minutes down the road – paying rent, doing house chores, etcettera while I work on the education I need to succeed on my own. It’s mutually beneficial after all; he gets to live more well-off, has a new “maid” to keep the house clean and I don’t need to worry immediately about housing costs. Assuming other milennials are successful enough to use a similar strategy as I do, is it not more beneficial for the family to keep everyone together?

Logic guides your actions, emotion guides your morals. Only you may decide how you use them.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

Despite popular perceptions of millennials…I know a few who live with their parents still even though they make good money, pay their parents something each month and aren’t just free loaders, and don’t have outrageous debt levels. For them it pretty much boils down to why should they move out? If you get along well with your parents and can come to reasonable terms with them, is it really that amazing to p~~~ money away on rent or buy a house just to live in it alone?

Whenever I hear older people getting down on millennials like they’re losers for living at home longer on average than previous generations, all I could think was said previous generations were losers for getting crushed by big mortgages and getting married. How well did that work out for many of them…yet they can’t seem to figure out why the next generation isn’t eagerly following in their footsteps.

[SandalsParticipant 4253]

Faust For Science wrote:

Socialize the losses and privatize the profits.

Therein lies the rub.

And Fiat money allows it all. And mass ignorance (or apathy) among the sheeple allows the fiat money.

[Chris1234Participant 353]

I dated an americian girl about many years ago who had finished her study in the US when she was 30. She had chopped and changed her degree and hated her job which she had been doing for a year which was related to the degree she got. I remember her telling me she threw everything she could afford at her student loan in her first year and it just covered her interest amount. She was miserable due to the fact she knew she had f~~~ed her life up. She was attractive and nice enough but that was the underlying reason I stopped seeing her as I knew I would be the one bailing her out. If youre going to get a degree make sure you can get a good paying job in that field before you start and dont stuff around changing your course as its all $$$.

[AttonParticipant]

Point Of No Return wrote:

How’s this for an explanation:

One day they will kill us all.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[xanthineParticipant 4903]

Before I start, I just want to preface this by saying I don’t advocate being lazy and mooching off parents and welfare for life. I personally am a 30 year old pharmacist. Suffice to say, I worked extremely hard to get where I am today. In my mind there was nothing I wouldn’t do to be successful and accomplish my life goals…but I don’t see this kind of resolve in most millennials, and the worst part is I completely understand why. To be honest, I can’t even say for sure whether or not all the work I did was even worth it. If I were just starting out today, I probably wouldn’t even bother going to college…but I don’t know what else I would do instead. Learn a trade maybe? There are no easy solutions, these are very heavy issues we’re facing.

I mean, where is the incentive? You can go to college, but you’ll be saddled with at least 5 and most likely 6 figures worth of debt at this point just for a degree. While you are there, you’ll be surrounded by hot young college girls. Most of them wear leggings, and I mean you can literally see the imprint of their pussy lips, that is how revealing it is. But you won’t be able to enjoy them, because their overall attitudes, psychosis, smartphone addiction, lack of conversational skill and hostility towards men make them damn near unapproachable. (this, from someone who has literally approached hundreds of them) Every time you do get lucky you will be worried about possible false rape accusations if you do anything to upset her, which is very easy to do with most women these days since they are so unstable. Not to mention you have to be very careful not to impregnate them. I have dealt with a false rape accusation, as well as more than one person who tried to get pregnant, so I’m not just paranoid here. I am extremely lucky that my life was not ruined years ago.

Finally after you finish your degree program, you have a huge debt, but no guarantee of scoring a good job, or even any job for that matter. If you look at the top ten degree programs where less than ten years ago you would have been set for life, the jobs are no longer there. Computer science majors have been screwed thanks to outsourcing and H1B visas. Finance and business degrees no longer guarantee a job. Even people who go to law school and other once prestigious graduate degree programs are having problems. I took one of the few good programs left, but mark my words, pharmacy will fall into this same trap in less than 20 years time, probably much faster even.

If you manage to score a decent job, you still have to deal with the inflated cost of living, housing, etc. Not to mention, it’s pretty hard to be thinking about buying a house, investing or starting a retirement fund in the first place when a huge chunk of your income is going towards your student loans. Personally about a third of my after tax income goes towards loans, and will continue to for the next ten years unless I pay it off faster. (which of course, I will) What is the point in borrowing all that money to get a good job if you end up spending all the extra money you make on your debt? All you’ve really done is sold yourself into debt slavery.

Of course if you do all this, you can’t find a good woman to share your life with, or have kids, for obvious reasons. You have to guard your wealth and assets like a hawk. And if you do manage to finally pay off your loans and put away enough to retire, you are banking literally everything you own and your entire life’s work on the western banking financial infrastructure not collapsing in your lifetime. I don’t think that’s a very good bet, given the track record of fiat currencies and the economic situation we are in today in general. We are already in a state of infinite quantitative easing. What’s going to happen when the next bubble bursts and the next big recession hits? (student loan debt bubble, I’m looking at you; this is now the largest source of privately held debt, and unlike when the housing bubble burst, this time there will be nothing tangible to salvage from it, just worthless pieces of paper. what a waste…)

Even though I’m doing relatively well for myself and making more than 95% of people my age, I’m still not doing great and have a great deal of struggle left to go through before I can really say that I came out on top, in spite of everything. I can’t even imagine what it’s like just for the average guy out there. A lot of them seem completely defeated to me, like they’ve just given up and don’t even want to try. And I don’t blame them, because no matter how hard they try, it seems just about impossible that everything will work out for them in the end, so why the f~~~ even bother? There is no incentive.

This isn’t just a localized problem either; these are problems men are facing everywhere in the entire developed world. There is no place to run to, there is no escape from it all. So big surprise, a lot of millennials are just saying “f~~~ it”. It isn’t worth it. There’s no incentive to work hard, get an education, start a career, get married, or have kids, you’ll only get screwed if you try. So instead they are living with their parents, turning to heavy drug and alcohol use, playing video games, having children mostly by accident and out of wedlock, because in spite of everything these men still want to have sex with women, as nasty as women have become. It’s a pretty s~~~ty deal no matter how you look at it.

Anyway, I realize this was more of a rant than a rational discussion of the problem at hand, but what the hell. That’s half the reason I joined this forum, because there is nowhere else these complaints would be heard or even understood. Thank you for that.

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