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Anonymous0I am from Canada and don’t know hat “State Land” means.
Planning a motorbike trip to Arizona and New Mexico and I see campgrounds in State Parks for no camping fee or a very small one. Is that what is meant by State Land?Catalina State Park
11570 N Oracle Rd, Tucson, AZ 85737
(520) 628-5798Here’s some information on a really nice one in Southern Arizona. Cheers
I can see their heads have been twisted and fed with worthless foam from the mouth. Bob d

Anonymous0Thanx, Dave
Even with the current exchange rate, it is still a deal.That’s the view I have every day. A lot different than Canada but it’s got its good points
I can see their heads have been twisted and fed with worthless foam from the mouth. Bob d

Anonymous0This is what I will be camping in. It is a tow behind motorcycle tent trailer. Click on “Compact Trailers” right under the Trike Zone logo. Scroll down to “Lee-sure lite tent trailer” the red one.
That is such a cool trailer. Well it’s perfect for Arizona like you could get a breeze through it the northern part of the state is pretty cool most of the year where I live usually 48 degrees Celsius hahaha
I can see their heads have been twisted and fed with worthless foam from the mouth. Bob d
All state parks means is that its reserve and protected land owned and operated by the state. Lots of them do offer cheap camping. Before you show up, you should inquire about any ‘visitor’ fees or parking passes that may be required. Like in Washington State they have the ‘discover pass’ which you need to park on any state park property. If you don’t have one, i think it’s 10 bucks a day.
So just do a bit of research before you leave so you don’t get hit with any unexpected fees.
When my dad used to travel around with his 5th wheel, he used KOA parks which are privately owned. I seem to remember him saying something about he could buy a certain # of days and it was good at any of the KOA parks he just had to call ahead and make sure there was space available.
I pay the $10 extra on top of my annual registration for the state park pass. I don’t use it often, but public parks are one of the few things government doesn’t totally screw up.
I am from Canada and don’t know hat “State Land” means.
Think Provincial Park instead of National Park. Same basic idea.
What it means in practice depends on the state, just like the qualities of provincial parks depends on the province. Some states allow dispersed camping anywhere on state land, while others requires you to use designated campsites. Some require you to have a day use permit, others will require a parking permit (same thing – different name), others want you to pay for an annual sticker on your car. The camping fees may seem cheap, but the stickers for your car can be quite expensive. If you’re camping at a developed campsite there will be a fee, and the prices depend entirely on the greed of the state and have almost nothing to do with the amenities. Some $5 state campgrounds have full plumbing, cooking and dishwashing facilities, laundry, free hot showers, evening programs, the works. Other states will charge $50 or more for nothing more than a square of sharp gravel.
For example, New Mexico’s developed campgrounds are generally very good and either free or very cheap, but you have to apply for a $30-$40 access permit from the state to camp at any of them. That’s not very expensive as such things go, but it can take forever for them to process your application and send you your permit.
Camping on federal land is more consistent across state boundaries. Most Bureau of Land Management land that isn’t expressly closed to camping allows free camping outside of designated campsites so long as you don’t stay for more than two weeks, and camp at least 1000 feet or so away from any water source but within 300 feet of the nearest road if you’re with a vehicle. Do NOT leave behind any trash, and check about local fire restrictions, too. You can get into a LOT of trouble lighting a fire where you shouldn’t.
Federal Forest Service land is a little more varied, with more places closed to camping than BLM land. The general USFS rules for bushwhacking are to be at least 100 feet away from the nearest water source or road. (The BLM wants to keep campers near the road while the USFS wants to keep campers away from roads. I have no idea why they differ.) Assume you’re limited to 14 days most places unless it’s posted otherwise. The same rules for garbage and fires apply, and the Forest Service will also want you to pay for a $5 daily parking and use permit. Pay it. Or get an $80 annual interagency pass (but buy it through the local BLM office – they’re faster). It’s a lot cheaper than paying the fines if they catch you, and the people who don’t pay only encourage the Forest Service to close off more areas to camping.
National Park Service land depends on the specific National Park or National Monument. Their rules about camping vary wildly and can change a lot depending on the season.
Basically, check your route, figure out where you want to camp, and then check a map to see if it’s state reserve land, state park land, BLM land, USFS land, or NPS land. Then check the website for whichever governing body manages that land and see what their rules and requirements are.
One final thing: if it’s anywhere near any hunting season, do NOT do anything that might make you look like you’re hunting or fishing unless you actually have tags for whatever is in season there. Most USFS and park rangers are sensible if it’s clear you’re trying to comply with the rules and not intentionally making a mistake. However I have never met a single game warden who wasn’t an officious ass who will nail you for whatever charges they can invent on the spot.
I have seen few State Parks free but there are some. Canyon Lands Utah is where I have stayed free. Many National Parks and National Forest lands are as cheap as $10-$16 USD and sometimes free.
gotta do some research and planning to make it go. Some areas never take reservations so its first come first served and yet more and more State Parks are going Reservation Only, at least during peak seasons.
I do not like to have to adhere to a plan when I tour but its becoming inevitable.
I believe that there is an $80 USD National Park pass that is good for a year for all National Parks. Not 100% sure about citizenry requirements, but do some NPS (National Park Service) and NFS (National Forest Service) research and State Park research for the states you expect to visit.Many State Parks have resorts with hotel like accommodations. About ALL state parks have camping with a fee available. Some are reservation-only and some are first come first served and BOTH can be in the same State and BOTH can be within the same park.
If you have specific destinations you can make tentative reservations ON SITE and do the ‘whatever accommodations’ in between.
I have a loop scheduled myself. Still many things up in the air presently, but its a GO on timing and FOUR destinations are mandatory at this time.
I really hate planning and having to stick to that plan. When I retire, I shall not hate planning because I will not plan.
KOA’s are usually a little more expensive but they are clean safe and family oriented. And have generally good amenities.
Cheers!
with joy/without hate
When are you going on your trip? Do you have a route already planned? I know AZ pretty well, so if you post that part of your route I might be able to point you to some cool spots.
I’m heading back to AZ in April to backpack my old haunts in the Sonoran Desert. Can’t f~~~ing wait!
I believe that there is an $80 USD National Park pass that is good for a year for all National Parks. Not 100% sure about citizenry requirements, but do some NPS (National Park Service) and NFS (National Forest Service) research and State Park research for the states you expect to visit.
That’s the interagency pass. It’s $80 for one year, and you don’t need to be a citizen to buy one. It only covers entrance fees, not camping fees, and only at federal lands. If you’re currently in the U.S. military it’s free. If you are a citizen and 62 or older you can get a senior version that’s only $10 and good for life and also gets you a 50% discount on all camping fees and whatnot.
Get them from the BLM. The park service and forestry service are very slow.
I really hate planning and having to stick to that plan.
I hate having to make reservations to camp, and rolling into a full up camp at night sucks hard too. That’s why I generally keep track of the local bushwacking rules and open land camp. When it’s just me and a bivvy bag and hammock there’s little difference between a developed campsites and open land. It’s nice to get into a developed campsite every few days for a shower, though I could do without all the R.V. generators going all night.

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When are you going on your trip? Do you have a route already planned? I know AZ pretty well, so if you post that part of your route I might be able to point you to some cool spots.
I’m heading back to AZ in April to backpack my old haunts in the Sonoran Desert. Can’t f~~~ing wait!
Don’t know exactly when, other than anytime from mid October to mid April.
Here is the timeline :
Winter of 2017-18:
investigate several warmer areas
Sept 2018:
Ditch my apt.
live a nomad lifestyle down south during Canadian winter
move north and stay at my cottage in the summer.A gypsy lifestyle
A BIG THANK YOU to all for your help
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