Question for those who have dodged bullets

[papermakerParticipant 35]

I just joined, and in my post on the introduction forum i lightly mentioned it. Had a real sweet girl for a while whose biggest issue with me was my independent nature. She went back to a major soft shouldered guy who will be a corporate slave his entire life.

I’d love to hear some stories on some experiences, since I’m just starting to understand this womanly approach to lock up a guarenteed provider.

Anybody date, or marry the total sweetheart who changed for the worse in a short period of time because they couldn’t take the first mate spot when they wanted to be captain?

 

[Anonymous 12]

Every woman is basically the same. They might seem sweet and kind at first but underneath they all want the same things which is to have their own way all the time on their own terms.

I dated one woman for a while she started off really nice and sweet. Pretty soon the back and forward began, Sex went from being fun to being a minefield, she would go hot and cold on me, she would start fights over crap, sometimes she wouldn’t return an email or message for days, just crazy stuff like that and after the break up I started to realize how many times that had happened to me with different women. They like to push boundaries, to see how much they can get away with, what you will and won’t tolerate. They also feel getting a man upset or angry is a sign of how much he loves her, all of this insanity validates them.

She was also big on the word “sorry” but she would do it again and again. Don’t say sorry, just don’t do it in the first place! At one point I was going to marry her, we spoke about it and everything, I actually consider myself the luckiest man alive as not long after that she started to get crazy on me with the stuff I wrote in the above paragraph. So not complaining there, just mentioned it as you wrote about how women lock up providers, she went against the trend on that one and started the nasty s~~~ before the wedding!

 

 

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

Got married, got cancer, got left in hospital.

[FermatParticipant 3478]

Dated for 2 years to what i thought was a nawalt. But any time I wanted space she would try to dig up my past and contact exes or female friends of mine to try and figure me out. She tried to act low maintenance but any rational person knows women are not low maintenance. She knew I watched mgtow and lost her sh*t when she realized that mgtow lifestyle resonated with me. I ghosted and haven’t turned back since.

I have discovered a truly remarkable list of reasons why women are not necessary for a happy life, but alas this margin is too small to contain it.

[FullMetalExoParticipant 2383]

Not counting my many friend girlfriends turning out to be real f~~~ing bitches in usually 1-4 month time….

 

One my friend had sex after girl’s period, for years, without condom (cause it feels good…f~~~ing genius.). She always told him when it happened and there was no problem. He trusted her…
Then one day, she lied about her period. WINNING!
She got pregnant, she waited it out before announcing it, then got him in to the baby-lock and he was basically f~~~ed to either pay alimony or marry.

Because he didn’t want to lose connections with his baby (and at least have a chance to be involved in raising her, and not his bitch wife who would turn the baby against the father), he married.

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[qeeqoParticipant 1168]

Dated a gal in high school who broke up with me and since she didn’t have a place to stay because her family moved, my folks invited her to stay with us. I was excited until she started making out with her new hypergamic target in front of me in my own living room. Thanks Mom and Dad.

Married a nurse who used her medical knowledge to alter a prescription that damned near killed me. I had taken out a $250,000 life insurance police with her as beneficiary several years before. When I actually did survive after hospitalization we divorced and she slapped a restraining order on that life insurance policy until the divorce was final.

My father was a deacon in the Catholic Church. He told me one day he felt a special calling to help widows… what were you thinking dad?… He found one who felt a special calling to try to completely clean out all of his bank accounts. I believe that’s called elder abuse, and grand larceny, but she made sure he didn’t talk about her so all the family knows is that her name is “Cindy”… Cindy let her son borrow my dad’s credit card. When he was in hospice, and days away from death a long time female family friend tried to get into see him to ask if he’s pay for her grand daughters funeral.

Four other girlfriends that I thought were serious were hitting it elsewhere at the same time as they were with me.

One girlfriend that I knew since childhood had a family farm next to where a female utility worker went missing in the early 90’s. When we were dating 9 years ago she showed me a polaroid of a tree that had a colored ring around it, and said she thought that it was supernatural evidence that the tree may have been near the grave site. When I broke it off and we discussed the relationship she told me that she was offended by virtually everything I said to her during the course of our relationship which broke off rather quickly after that f~~~ing insane tree pic.

MGTOW single and celibate for 9 years. There is absolutely nothing there worth getting tangled with.

[ExsliventxsParticipant 1067]

When they say they want a dependable man.. what they really mean … is a man on which they can depend to support them and their agenda.

It has NOTHING to do with what the man wants AT ALL, because in her mind she believes all he should want is HER.  Nothing else.

 

I slaved away for my fiance, moved halfway across the country, moved up 4 pay grades in 4 jobs, worked 60+ hours a week and got a promotion at my last job before I dumped her crazy ass….  you know what she did to deserve it? She simply let her crazy show before she had locked me in.

Anonymous wrote:

I dated one woman for a while she started off really nice and sweet. Pretty soon the back and forward began, Sex went from being fun to being a minefield, she would go hot and cold on me, she would start fights over crap, sometimes she wouldn’t return an email or message for days, just crazy stuff like that and after the break up I started to realize how many times that had happened to me with different women. They like to push boundaries, to see how much they can get away with, what you will and won’t tolerate. They also feel getting a man upset or angry is a sign of how much he loves her, all of this insanity validates them. She was also big on the word “sorry” but she would do it again and again. Don’t say sorry, just don’t do it in the first place!

This is what mine did except I lived with her, after 3 years of engagement she was revealed to have been completely nuts the entire time. She would pick fights over the simplest thing…

 

A word of warning to all men, if her relationship with her father is s~~~, GTFO, don’t look back, you will ALWAYS be the enemy, the failure, no matter what you do, because having a penis will remind her of her father.

Regardless of the fact that her mother cheated on her father, then divorced him…. bleh, its not worth it.

I’ve had more than 2 women who were engaged offering me blow jobs before their fiance got off of work. Women are just sluts generally and that’s not a problem (because I’m not marrying any) they love to push for this pedestal s~~~. It’s a joke. Anyway, rambling.

[FullMetalExoParticipant 2383]

@qeeqo

I find your life stories the most disturbing. Good thing you are still alive mate !

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[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

That reminds me of my two step sisters. My father used to beat my step mom and they would hear it. When they got married my step sister told me they yelled at their husbands when they thought they lost control. The problem both of my brothers in laws are nice guys. They are abusive in any way. My father used to beat me ass too, long story why. All I can say is I went through enough s~~~ with my father that I don’t need some bitch slapping me around.
Also stay away from women who have depression. Holy f~~~ these women will drag you down and leave you and don’t care what happens to you. It has happen to me twice. I had this one woman who had major depression. As I got to know her she was really f~~~ed up. All the guys she dated ended up bailing after a month or so. I stopped talking to her and she got p~~~ed because I wouldn’t talk to her so I had 15 to 20 people attacking me online

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[Anonymous 14]

papermaker wrote:

Anybody date, or marry the total sweetheart who changed for the worse in a short period of time because they couldn’t take the first mate spot when they wanted to be captain?

You know I really hate reliving my past but I’ll do it for your sake. Most of the older members here already know this story.

Now my parents send me to this elementary school that was primarily for girls but it was also like a prep school for boys upto 4th grade for this extremely prestigious boys school that started from 5th grade and was right next to it.

This girls elementary school was a feminist sweatshop. There were sexually abusive feminist teachers and nuns(oh yeah it was a convent) who loved to physically, mentally and sexually torture little boys and train little girls to become full fledged feminazis. The first thing I heard on my first day in that school in morning assembly was a nun screaming at the mic that girls were angels and boys were spawn of satan.

So I met this girl there, she was the very first friend I ever made and she was lovely. She fit my description of the perfect girl perfectly. Short hair, slim, athletic, demure. She and I became very good friends and technically she was my first girlfriend.

Then she came under the influence of the feminist indoctrination and all hell broke loose. She became bitchy, possessive and distrustful. She forbade me from speaking to other girls, which I of course didn’t comply to. Then she grew amazingly aware of her sexuality even from an age as young as 10 or 11 and always craved sexual contact. One day she demanded that I kiss her and back then I really hated kissing(still do) so I refused. She then threatened me that unless I did what she asked she would kick me in my crotch. I responded that if she kicked me in my crotch I’d kick her back twice as hard. Then she went crazy, started pouting and crying and then went to the principal and complained that I abused her sexually. The principal who was a nun, a woman of god made me stand outside her office for rest of the day without food or water. Thankfully one of the teachers made her confess to what really happened and her charges did not stick, though she was never punished. I almost fainted from exhaustion.

I dumped her that day and never spoke to her or even acknowledged her existence. The last thing she said to me on the last day of that school was she was sorry but she loved me and even if I never ever spoke to her again she’d always be mine, or some s~~~ like that.

Now fast forward to about 20 years. I see her at a friends wedding. Exactly the complete polar reversal of what she used to be. Fat and disgusting with long mismanaged hair, looking depressed with a subdued slave of a husband and a cute little kid beside her. The moment she saw me she started eyeing me like a piece of candy, even asked a couple of my friends for my phone number even though I completely ignored her. Then she kept sending me Facebook friend requests. Turned them all down and blocked her ass.

That night I had a little psychological breakdown, as a result of the way women make you feel. I felt it was my fault she turned out that way. That maybe if I hadn’t left her she and I would be living happily ever after. Yeah needless to say I was blitzed.

Then I threw up on a post here and all the MGTOW brothers here helped me get back on my feet. You won’t be able to see that post anymore though cuz I got KM to delete it, embarrassing stuff in there sure you understand. 😛
See this is why I so absolutely love this place. This is like a home away from home and the brother here unlike the brothers in real life got no sibling rivalry issues.

As for dodging bullets, I made a whole f~~~ing career out of it. So bring it on bitches.

[cicer0Participant 46]

Wife number 2 was an aged care worker looking after my grand mother prior to her demise. I was very ffond of my grand mother and would visit often, usually at night after university. Anyway, the monster and I get talking and she is pourring out her woes about her (at the time) present husband and how he hits her and crap.

Anyway, I get told all the usual lies “Oh, your the only one that listens to me” and the rest. Anyway, we end up having an affair. Next thing she is moving over at my place and I’m thinking “what now? how did that happen?”

Then in a mangina moment, I think “OK, she can stay till she gets her act together” 3 months in, she tells me she’s pregnant. So we ended up getting married. Fast forward 5 years, and I’m coming home from work and she tells me she wants a divorce. I agree but because of finances, I had to stay at the house. She agreed to this.

I went away one day for a course and when I got home, all of my stuff with the exception of a few clothes was boxed up in the garage. I said “what the hell?” and she just said “I’m just getting it ready for when you go”

I’ve never hit a woman before in my life but I came very close that day.

Anyway, it did some good in the end. It gave me the kick in the arse I needed to get back to university and start again.

 

[BDParticipant 1146]

On youtube , Terrence Popp – Dupe the Next Dude , and Seduce and Destroy . Watch both of these. Not sure about links with the recent issues here.

papermaker wrote:

Anybody date, or marry the total sweetheart who changed for the worse in a short period of time because they couldn’t take the first mate spot when they wanted to be captain?

Very experienced here, I’ve had most show their true colors either immediately or within 4-6 months, but have had a couple make 2 and 3 years respectively. Money/control always become their main objective.

I live my life with one main rule, I do not ask my partners to change their behaviour, if you have to ask someone to change their behaviour then they will resent you for having to change themselves, and the same thing for me, nobody tells me how to live my life, nobody controls me. If I let someone control me, not only would I resent that person, but I would also resent myself.

Mgtow will teach you to see these red flags much sooner.

 

Because in order to be able to think, you have to risk being offensive.

[DurdenParticipant 1051]

BD wrote:

On youtube , Terrence Popp – Dupe the Next Dude , and Seduce and Destroy . Watch both of these. Not sure about links with the recent issues here.

Thanks to Mr.Popp I now refer to my dick as Peg-D. As well as slot A,B, and C. My own creation slot F which is f~~~ing fat rolls.

It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

I don’t think I had to dodge a bullet, because I was never fired at.  If the bullet was something I dodged (I never had been married), the aim was so poor, I would of actively had to go hunt down and jump in front of the bullet.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[Zuberi TauParticipant 10606]

I witnessed my cousin almost getting arrested because he refused to give attention to a fat, bugged out trollop.

The trollop tried to drag me into her insanity but left when a squad car drove past our house.

 

 

[Executor MaxwellParticipant 591]

Not too many shots fired for me but I have dodged at least 1 major bullet.

I’ve always been one to go my own way as it were but this was back before I knew of MGTOW, or the term was even in use and I still though it was just me that saw the world going off the hinges. I regarded women as predictable and had assembled a decent understanding on my own but nothing near the fleshed out understand available to MGTOW today. So this tale may be a bit half and half for terms and perception.

Back once upon a time E.M. dated a pretty young model. She was early 20’s  at least an 8.5 for looks and ultimately a solid 9 for crazy.

Was in a couple phases first the honeymoon phase, simple enough standard details I imagine.

The second phase was to try and set a baby trap, but first she worked her way around to preparing details to preemptively win a fight. She went in to how she could never get an abortion she would have a kid without getting married before she EVER would consider having an abortion, add extra talk of a previous partner of her’s that had said he’d take her for one if it came to it and her horror at the idea ect ect ect… and to reconfirm she would never consider an abortion. She was taken completely off guard by my response however.

I gave the atypical response of laughing saying I didn’t see anything wrong with that stance. Of course when I continued my statement to go on with I was more the kind of guy to just sue for custody and that guys in my position usually won if they filed for it she was probably not terribly pleased.

Well I assume that I threw a wrench in what would have been plan A there. Seeing as the baby trap was now a dangerous option instead of an easy win securing a marriage became much more of a direct priority. Enter her looking to step up the relationship. From there she went to work on trying to wear down my mental fortitude, standard strategy by in large: first I was special, the greatest at everything and then a total screw up just like everyone else she ever knew. Working to play yo-yo with my emotional state. Might have been a decent part of a gauntlet for borderline personality disorder was in play as well. Also she was working to prepare me to react like her farther and submit myself to her the way her farther had submitted to her mother.

Little did she realize how fast I had mentally checked out of the relationship at the first signs of crazy I was able to get clear sight on. When she turned on the silent treatment and expected me to come crawling in submission I instead went with this looks like a good opportunity to break it off without just being made out to be the bad guy. After a sufficient silent treatment period had been properly establish I went with what I had assumed in my inexperience to be a kind way of handling it.

I went with a message along the standard lines of how I’d always be there for her if she needed anything so on so forth, I had sorta just copied it out of suggestions of how to break up that girls give each other. (No doubt those of you of experience who know how this works are already laughing at my colossal error of belief in that regard). I had also prepped all our mutual friends for my “I am the ultimate nice guy and will exit because I know I am not wanted departure” So I had also completely trapped her and booby trapped the place against any recourse she might want to go for.

As an early 20’s model she had never had some break up with her as far as I know, in fact near as I can tell she had never experienced being told the word no in regards to anything.     Well to put it lightly her hamster must have dislodged its damn wheel and gone straight through the wall with it leaving a comedic outline to denote it’s departure when she realized what I had done.

She apparently had a complete mental breakdown that lasted about a month and then rapidly got herself married and pregnant a few months later, then a second kid in short order, and then divorced a few years after that. That knowledge is mostly second hand as she has never spoken to me again after I sent the breakup message, knowing what I know now I don’t think she can deal with the idea that I exist as a real person in this world at all after managing the escape I did.

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