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Anonymous43I’m 47. many of the women on the dating sites are grandmothers. eww. They look old and nasty with chest tattoos and piercings. yuck Yeah, so bangable with a big blue tattoo on saggy old leather titties. So f~~~ing stupid. There was one pic, Jesus I shoulda saved it, matching mother and daughter boobie tattoos. I hurt myself laughing so hard.
The women my age remind me of the c~~~’s mom. I guess she was about 45 when the c~~~ brought me to her home to meet her. She tried to put the move on me a couple times. I think I’m 12 years younger than her. very off putting. creepy, no bueno imagine your older sister flirting with you for practice or by mistake. Gaaaaa
say no to gilf, milf, women, single moms, no no no no and no! God help you if you are tagteamed by a single mom and her single mom mother. with matching boobie and c~~~ tattoos…How f~~~ed up is that?
I’m going to rinse my brain with Listerine now. Hole saw, got it, drill plugged in….
I’m 60. I stopped dating completely 16 years ago, when I became a MGTOW without knowing it because I was sick to death of women’s drama. No matter what their age, your average woman thrives on drama, either real or the kind she concocts to feed off of.
My last 3 relationships prior to going cold turkey was having 2 fiancees cheat on me prior to the marriage and the last GF admitting to me that she had been addicted to crack and had slept with several KC Chiefs on a cocaine bender over 3 days at a motel and year I won’t name.
As I aged, I realized that the women who would be available at my age are those who are carrying serious baggage and/or are progressively nuttier than your average woman, and with each passing year with no man to support them they become ever more desperate and willing to lie to you to secure their own security. They don’t want to have to live with 4 cats they have to pay for, so they’re willing to lie to you to lock you down.
You don’t need that, any more than I did. I retired in 2003 and determined back then to live out the rest of my life drama free, with no woman telling me what friends I had that I could continue seeing. Or nagging me to move. Or spending my money stupidly. I am a level 3 MGTOW but I only arrived there after having spent effort and many years engaging women on a level they never deserved. Had I known their true nature, I would have saved myself so much aggravation and time and been able to dip my wick in far more women than I did – but I was a naive Blue Piller during that time. The pain I suffered at their hands is gone now – I don’t even blame them but I sure as s~~~ will have nothing to do with them. I don’t blame myself either – it was just life teaching me a lesson that I could not understand until I took the Red Pill.
Think it about it – I’m 60, retired and financially comfortable without the need for Social Security – what does a woman have to offer me that I can’t do myself? Sex – fleshlight, check, or the occasional escort – check. Cooking? Please – I can cook at a gourmet and scratch level, also grilling and smoking. Cleaning? OMFG, so easy. Clothes? Washer and dryer and soap – wtf is so difficult about that? Companionship? A dog. Social life? Who f~~~ing needs that when it’s HER friends she wants to be social with.
There are far too many dangers at my age to bother with any woman willing to hook up. Menopause, baggage, psycopathy, black widow, desperation, etc. – f~~~ that.
As the dating prospects drop the crazy needle rises.
Never lose sight of what brought you here.
As the dating prospects drop the crazy needle rises.
HAHAHHAH… This is classic.
I have only experienced two of this age group sexually.
What a pain in the ass, they are hard work, they have discovered what they like and insist on you doing it if you want your reward, yet do nothing that you like.
The last one I had to massage her feet for like an hour before, then afterwards she wanted her back rubbed until she fell asleep, and if I didn’t I got the nagging telling me what a selfish git I was whereas anything I liked, she would do for about 30 seconds then get bored of it and stop.
Just far more trouble than was worth. That one lasted about three weeks before I ran, especially when she started to inquire how much my property was worth and looking at properties for me where she wanted to live!It doesn’t get better. If anything, things are worse. The ones I have met are Alpha widows. I met a few whilst dating. I actually went for women my own age thinking they would be more interesting given their experience of life. What I found is that if they had been dumped by a husband or longterm lover they just could not let it go. If they had done the dumping they had inflated expectations of what they ‘deserved’. I met professional women (lawyers, doctors). They loved getting drunk and talking about money and houses and luxurious holidays. They knew nothing about history or philosophy or nature. They would all have been trained on in instrument to grade 5 as spoilt children but would not be interested as adults in sitting around a fire and having a jam.
So in summary, just as boring, not as attractive.women’s drama. woman thrives on drama, either real or the kind she concocts to feed off of.
women who would be available at my age are those who are carrying serious baggage and/or are progressively nuttier than your average woman, and with each passing year with no man to support them they become ever more desperate and willing to lie to you to secure their own security. They don’t want to have to live with 4 cats they have to pay for, so they’re willing to lie to you to lock you down.
determined back then to live out the rest of my life drama free
Young women embrace makeup etc. to enhance what they have.
Old women have nothing to enhance, so they put “make up” on the truth – – they resort to lies and deception (= lies).
In the Kung Fu series, “Truth binds one to reality.”
It follows that when hags embrace untruth, they lose reality and gain nuttiness and drama.A young girl screeches with her frants, and when the guys look to see where the screech originated, she lies to herself, “They are looking because I’m pretty.”
An old hag will touch and grab your hand and arm and shoulder and when you logically (blue pill) conclude it’s a green light, she couldn’t be happier because you will move forward and she will, well, she will just(SARCASM) have to put the kibosh on your “unfounded” advances. How dare you. Where did YOU get the idea.
Her silent Charlie Chaplin movie is “F~~~ Me, F~~~ Me”. And her verbiage is “I’m so attractive, but stay away from me”."It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."
Think it about it – I’m 60, retired and financially comfortable without the need for Social Security – what does a woman have to offer me that I can’t do myself? Sex – fleshlight, check, or the occasional escort – check. Cooking? Please – I can cook at a gourmet and scratch level, also grilling and smoking. Cleaning? OMFG, so easy. Clothes? Washer and dryer and soap – wtf is so difficult about that? Companionship? A dog. Social life? Who f~~~ing needs that when it’s HER friends she wants to be social with.
I don’t know about you guys. But when it comes to sex anyways, I personally need an awesome release 1-2 times a week. Anything more than that is just…. it doesn’t hit the spot that well and feels like a chore.
In terms of cooking. Men are better cooks anyway. Far f~~~ing better cooks. And cleaning- recently was at my neighbor’s, a 50 year old, old fashioned italian MGTOW (he doesn’t know what MGTOW is but acts like it). His place was f~~~ing spotless. And he has 2 pets. Could do surgery on the floor.
Men power bitches.
At 48, I’ve dated women mostly in the 30 and below age range. Right now I’m lining up a 23 year old. All women are idiots… the younger ones just look better.
My rare experience with women in my age range has indicated the following:
1) They are desperate to be desired and treated like the pretty young things they once were.
2) Menopause and the uptick in testosterone they’re experiencing makes them irritable and prone to “roid rage” like responses as they have no experience controlling their emotional outbursts the way men do.
3) Even if they have money they still expect you to pay (unless you’re a hot young musician or broke blue collar type).
4) You’re better off being ‘just friends’ with them and then f~~~ing their daughters. They particularly like it when you feed them the whole ‘equality, don’t have to f~~~ every woman I meet, enjoy your company, wisdom of experience, etc’ crap right before they catch you banging her 19 year old kid she used to look like.
Believe me, there is NO NEED to feel sorry for an older woman. She rode the carousel when she was young… she got all the pussy passes and cash & prizes for f~~~ing around… she’s earned her sad, old age and if she gives you s~~~ for wanting to be with younger women you simply say “When you were in your 20s you dated men in their 40s, right? This is the world you helped create and now you have to live in it.”
Anonymous24I am not quite 45, but getting there… Women over 30 something are like an entirely different species to me, as in, I can not mate with them, period. So if this means no pussy, no problem. I would much rather buy a 40 year old car than date a 40 year old woman, because I can work on the car, there are manuals and s~~~ for that. Women over 40? Send that s~~~ to the scrap heap as far as I am concerned. Now, don’t get me wrong, I am sure there are some cool women out there who are heading towards, or past baby making age, I am just not interested in them as no amount of wrench turning, buffing, and waxing can ever bring them back to their former glory.
Now, to all the ladies who are reading this and are upset, I say f~~~ you. F~~~ you for dating the older guys when I was younger. F~~~ you for using your youthful good days to chase Chad’s and guys with money. F~~~ you get f~~~ed f~~~ off to the scrap heap, your market value gets closer and closer to zero with every day that passes past 30somethingish.
Man, all of these responses are so damn great. The bottom line is that, once a woman reaches 40 years-old, there’s really no reason to associate with her on anything but plutonic grounds. Hell, even that is a chore.
Man, all of these responses are so damn great. The bottom line is that, once a woman reaches 40 years-old, there’s really no reason to associate with her on anything but plutonic grounds. Hell, even that is a chore.
Pretty much that’s it.
I have a female friend I’ve known since I was 17. I banged the s~~~ out of her for a few years off and on, then saw the wall looming in her future (she’d get fat and lazy and be sick a lot). Since I was planning on doing a bunch of exciting s~~~ in my life and didn’t want that weighing me down (I guess I was MGTOW from the start, eh?) I dumped her.
We remained friends, though, and recently… at 49… she asked me:
“Why are old women considered disposable in our society?”
“For the same reason most men are considered disposable their entire lives… because nobody cares to f~~~ them and if they aren’t producing something of value, they’re considered worthless.”
“But everyone’s life has value…”
“Yeah, to themselves. But if you’re not producing something other people want… food, shelter, safety, entertainment, meaning… then you aren’t worth s~~~ to them. And unless each one of us intends to produce everything we need for ourselves to survive, we need those other people to trade with us.”
“But Iv’e got a lot to offer… a lot more than some 23 year old idiot…”
“Do you? We’ve been friends for a long time so I don’t want to hurt your feelings here but you have to be objective. What are you bringing to a relationship with a 50 year old man that is going to make him want to spend his time, effort and treasure on you versus a young, hot chick? I mean, if you want him then he must have made something of himself… and if he has those resources from his own efforts, what does he want a woman for? He can hire a cook and cleaner, he can have conversations with his peers, he can play golf or drink beer with his buddies and when he gets sick, he can hire a nurse to take care of him. And if he wants sex, he’s got the skills, experience, distinction and money that young, hot girls want.”
“But I never went for those things when I was young…”
“I know. But you could have. The reality is that women trade youth, beauty and sexual desirability with men for protection and provision. The women who do not have youth, beauty and sexual desirability have nothing to trade… just as the men who can not provide or protect have nothing to trade. Do you shed a tear for all the broke, average, horny young men who want to be in relationships but have nothing a woman wants? No. What you’re feeling now is what most men feel all the time. The best you can do is accept the truth and make your own meaning in life, just like us.”
As you might imagine, that conversation ended in tears. So much for being honest.
Believe me, there is NO NEED to feel sorry for an older woman.
She rode the carousel when she was young…
she got all the pussy passes and cash & prizes for f~~~ing around…
she’s earned her sad, old age
and if she gives you s~~~ for wanting to be with younger women
you simply say “When you were in your 20s you dated men in their 40s, right?
This is the world you helped create and now you have to live in it.”Perfect! Man that’s perfect!
a female friend I’ve known since I was 17. I banged the s~~~ out of her for a few years off and on, then saw the wall looming in her future (she’d get fat and lazy and be sick a lot). Since I was planning on doing a bunch of exciting s~~~ in my life and didn’t want that weighing me down (I guess I was MGTOW from the start, eh?) I dumped her.
We remained friends, though, and recently… at 49… she asked me:
“Why are old women considered disposable in our society?”“But I’ve got a lot to offer… a lot more than some 23 year old idiot…”
“Do you? We’ve been friends for a long time so I don’t want to hurt your feelings here but you have to be objective. What are you bringing to a relationship with a 50 year old man that is going to make him want to spend his time, effort and treasure on you versus a young, hot chick? I mean, if you want him then he must have made something of himself… and if he has those resources from his own efforts, what does he want a woman for? He can hire a cook and cleaner, he can have conversations with his peers, he can play golf or drink beer with his buddies and when he gets sick, he can hire a nurse to take care of him. And if he wants sex, he’s got the skills, experience, distinction and money that young, hot girls want.”
“But I never went for those things when I was young…”
Do you shed a tear for all the broke, average, horny young men who want to be in relationships but have nothing a woman wants? No. What you’re feeling now is what most men feel all the time.
As you might imagine, that conversation ended in tears. So much for being honest.
They are always willing to shed a tear for themselves.
"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."
In my experience the c~~~s are just as f~~~ed up, just as horrible in their fourties as they are at their younger years. Basically pay off your house, invest, get a dog, enjoy your life,stay away from manginas and go pay for a quality f~~~ once in a while. That is what i do.
Anonymous54They just get more and more miserable. They know they cant get away with the s~~~ they used to, so theyll have to act nicer if they want something from you. But women just get more and more miserable as they get older.
Here that guys?
More and more and more f~~~ing miserable.
Personally,I’ve found women under 30 to be a lot more fun and way more pleasing sexually. I’m 52. The 2 most recent women who I went out with who are both in their 40s was a complete waste and made me want to hit my head with a hammer after the night out was over. And both of them are nice looking but emotionally, they were beyond bat s~~~ crazy. It was so bad I didn’t go out with another woman for almost 6 months. Just hung out with my son and a few buddies and enjoyed beer and whiskey. I’ll stick with the under 30 wimminz for entertainment and fun sex.
I am 43 and have internet dated (hooked up more like) with a lot of women between the ages of 40 and 47. I was with my ex wife between the ages of 25 and 40, but the major difference I noticed is how dating over 40 is tilted in favour of the man and definitely not the woman.
For me, in my 20s it was nearly impossible to get a woman to sleep with me, in my 40s it is pretty much guaranteed on a first date. As soon as they realise the wall is coming fast they become desperate and will latch onto any half decent guy that comes along. You can plate spin them, ignore their messages, tell them you are seeing other people and I promise you won’t be able to get rid of them.
But the problem is, even if they look OK with their clothes on, trust me for the vast majority of them it is not pleasant to see them naked. None of them bother to stay in shape so you just see a collection of saggy bits, rolls of flab and stretch marks. That is before you even get to see their pussies, which are 10 times worse if they have had a couple of kids. If you can imagine a road kill hedgehog you are pretty much there, and nasty as they expect you to go down on them.
I think women in their 40s are only any good for a quick pump and dump if you really have no better offers on the table. Then you need to ghost them as you will never get rid of them.
For women, everything eventually boils down to Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.
I dated a woman for a few months in her mid 50’s. She snapped at everything. I asked her one day, after looking at her resting bitch face “are you irritated with me? She said, “everything you do irritates me… I can’t get these hormones under control”. This was someone who I dated in her prime and Hooked up with again later in life.
She had no sex drive. She was far more aggressive than her younger years due to the testosterone most likely.
She was more narcissistic than when she was younger.
Stay away from older women. They are always in your face about everything. They are like aggressive dudes with saggy t~~~.
“ The reality is that women trade youth, beauty and sexual desirability with men for protection and provision. The women who do not have youth, beauty and sexual desirability have nothing to trade… just as the men who can not provide or protect have nothing to trade. Do you shed a tear for all the broke, average, horny young men who want to be in relationships but have nothing a woman wants? No. What you’re feeling now is what most men feel all the time. The best you can do is accept the truth and make your own meaning in life, just like us.”
Doc, you slammed her with her own personal WALL. +1
with joy/without hate
Anonymous0I am 55. We spend a lot of time on this site talking about “the Wall,” the supposed catastrophe of failing looks about 30. Yet women this age haven’t gotten the memo…they still look for the same rich sociopath they always have. I tell women I am a paramedic (and I can see the wheels turning in their minds, “why aren’t you a doctor?”), and I tend to be polite and kind hearted, a real turn-off for women. It seems only when they hit about 60, they really stop the baloney and look past the superficial stuff. By then, though, many women are liabilities. For example, one specialty RN I know makes twice what I do but only has $16,000 in an IRA and no equity in a house. She’s 61. I have 10 times that, and about the same in land and house equity. Lots of women I know blew their 401ks on crap and have nothing in retirement. Maybe I should where a t-shirt that says, “I have $300,000 in assets and an 820 credit score.” Think that would work?
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