Professor Cupcakes in STEM

[Cipher HighwindParticipant 1144]

http://www.pnas.org/content/112/17/5360.abstract

The underrepresentation of women in academic science is typically attributed, both in scientific literature and in the media, to sexist hiring. Here we report five hiring experiments in which faculty evaluated hypothetical female and male applicants, using systematically varied profiles disguising identical scholarship, for assistant professorships in biology, engineering, economics, and psychology. Contrary to prevailing assumptions, men and women faculty members from all four fields preferred female applicants 2:1 over identically qualified males with matching lifestyles (single, married, divorced), with the exception of male economists, who showed no gender preference. Comparing different lifestyles revealed that women preferred divorced mothers to married fathers and that men preferred mothers who took parental leaves to mothers who did not. Our findings, supported by real-world academic hiring data, suggest advantages for women launching academic science careers.

Hey ladies – check your privilege.

[RoyDalParticipant]

All of my STEM profs were male. The women were teaching courses I avoided, and of course, admin was stuffed with women.

The majority of my classmates were men, maybe 5 to 1. Some courses were 100% men.

The corporations I worked for had a far higher ratio of women than my college did. Where did they find them all? What happened to the surfeit of male graduates?

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[AttonParticipant]

How much more of a leg up do these women need.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[Cipher HighwindParticipant 1144]

A very big one; doing things with a vagina is so hard.

Atton wrote:

How much more of a leg up do these women need.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

RoyDal wrote:

All of my STEM profs were male. The women were teaching courses I avoided, and of course, admin was stuffed with women.

The majority of my classmates were men, maybe 5 to 1. Some courses were 100% men.

The corporations I worked for had a far higher ratio of women than my college did. Where did they find them all? What happened to the surfeit of male graduates?

This pretty much sums up my experience with school and work as well. There were about 20 people that graduated my program with me…4 were women. Three of them had jobs lined up before they even graduated and the fourth one barely graduated, was on drugs, and would never be able to hold a job in the field because you have to get drug tested when hired and at random once an employee. Most of the guys I’ve talked to since either went on for a higher up degree, spent a year+ looking for a job, or are still looking.

Young guys these days get s~~~ on royally. A lot of the older people at my company are men, so when they hire younger people they take whatever they can get for women first because they want to balance the ratio out without having to let any of the older guys go. Obviously they hire men too but its simply far less competitive for a woman to get in.

[Big BossParticipant 4496]

Men getting f~~~ed for quotas. Surprise surprise.

[MonkeyMindParticipant 5340]

This is what i’d prefer to read instead of some wishy washy mouthpiece for the MSM.

[Anonymous 29]

Big Boss wrote:

Men getting f~~~ed for quotas. Surprise surprise.

If that were only true.
Nowday’s the bias is so blatant but all the good men do nothing and it will get worse before it gets better.

[FrankOneParticipant 1417]

95% of my professors in Engineering were men; the few female professors, to their credit, knew their field well. I went to school two decades ago, though, so times have changed.

I would say there is hiring bias at larger companies — gender and racial quotas (they like to call ’em ‘targets’)… In contrast, at the smaller companies I have worked at, they don’t give a s~~~ about gender balance. Those companies, have been predominately male. There are more women in the clerical roles in front offices, and the laboratories, really that’s the only change I’ve seen in two decades in these companies. I’ve worked mostly in manufacturing, and few women want to work in loud, grimy plants, and even fewer still, willing to do shift work.

What I’ve seen in my field is, younger people generally (with limited experience) can’t get a job in their field — failure to launch — especially in 2007-2009.

[RealityBitesParticipant 2198]

I had only 2 women professors who were physics profs (actually one was an astronomer: a rather famous one)
I’ve had several math professors but none of them were particularly gifted or special in anyway.

Just a handful of women get undergraduate physics degrees, and just a tiny subset of that handful go on to get PhD’s in Physics
More women get Math degrees than Physics degrees, but again the bulk who do, stop with the bachelor degree.

I went to school during the 80’s and 90’s. Not sure what has changed, but I am willing to guess that while the percentage of males has plummeted in universities, it hasn’t made any significant differences in STEM classes.

Cupcake doesn’t like majoring in a difficult subject.

[нσтησσвParticipant 830]

FrankOne wrote:

I’ve worked mostly in manufacturing, and few women want to work in loud, grimy plants, and even fewer still, willing to do shift work.

i’ve never seen a woman last more than 4 days at where i work; most don’t even last more than an hour or two before they quit. There was one who was semi-attractive… she lasted less than 5 minutes. A little bit of dust on her hands, and GONE.

The environment is a warehouse, where people are refurbishing and testing electronics, mainly enterprise equipment. it’s a warehouse and it’s moderately dusty…

My Goal: To Leave Society.

[bobphiloParticipant 1772]

Cipher Highwind wrote:

http://www.pnas.org/content/112/17/5360.abstract

The underrepresentation of women in academic science is typically attributed, both in scientific literature and in the media, to sexist hiring. Here we report five hiring experiments in which faculty evaluated hypothetical female and male applicants, using systematically varied profiles disguising identical scholarship, for assistant professorships in biology, engineering, economics, and psychology. Contrary to prevailing assumptions, men and women faculty members from all four fields preferred female applicants 2:1 over identically qualified males with matching lifestyles (single, married, divorced), with the exception of male economists, who showed no gender preference. Comparing different lifestyles revealed that women preferred divorced mothers to married fathers and that men preferred mothers who took parental leaves to mothers who did not. Our findings, supported by real-world academic hiring data, suggest advantages for women launching academic science careers.

Hey ladies – check your privilege.

Thanks for posting this great study. We need more studies like this to disprove the myth of male advantage. Another important study showed that the so-called gender salary gap is a myth because it doesn’t take into account that women chose to go into low paying professions like early childhood education instead of science and engineering. When a well made study factors this in as well as the fact that women take maternity leave and often work part time it reveals that women get paid just as much as men for the same professions. And now they find it easier to get these jobs.

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