Power is paramount

[IAmTheVillainParticipant 6]

ILiveAgain sent me. Said their was a valid reason to introduce myself. Said I had a beautiful butt.

I’m 27. I started this journey when I realised I’d rather not live. I wanted to live; I just knew it’d be better to die. So, wanting to live happily instead of die miserably, I asked the question that started it all: Why am I depressed?

Friends told me it was because of a chemical imbalance in my head. I’ve since discovered that is only partly true, maybe 10% if I’m being generous. At the time, I didn’t believe it at all.

Why am I depressed? I assumed it was because I was missing something. I assumed it was because I was missing two things, actually: money and a girl.

I started reading philosophy for some reason. I went to university and got a degree in it. There came a philosopher who spoke to me: Nietzsche.

A very long story short, I learned through Nietzche and my own thoughts that one reason for my depression was powerlessness. I learned about how the weak defeat the strong using morality. This helped me to identify the deficits in my character and also to spot weakness in others. It caused me to feel repulsion at weakness.

Simultaneously, I took the red pill (it was part and parcel, because women are weakness personified). I then learned how to be strong. Actually, that is an ongoing process. It began as theoretical and has since become practical, beginning with a move to a different country.

I’m here because I’m looking for likeminded, strong men to talk with so that I can continue to become more powerful.

[Anonymous 18]

Welcome.

There is no power in going your own way brother. Its a resolution. It allows preservation of self-identity, morals, and self-respect. Its strength of character, not power. I speak for myself. And I am more wrong than right.

A warm welcome.

[RoyDalParticipant]

Welcome! I’m glad you made it alive.

IAmTheVillain wrote:

… I learned through Nietzche and my own thoughts that one reason for my depression was powerlessness.

You might like to know that there were a number of psychological experiments proving this. Be it humans, dolphins, monkeys, dogs, or mice, being powerless and punished for it drove them mad, the depression kind of mad.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

Power is KEY …. and comes in all forms. I dont know what the rest of the world calls them but I think of those DRAY horses. Those big powerful guys that used to pull the brewery keggs around on carts…….. you know the ones …. with hairy socks 🙂

Anyway ….. thats how I see positive power. Its quite, inward … but get the f~~~ out of its way when its being used.

Women drain power from men and process into insanity juice for their minds.

[JasonParticipant 282]

As RoyDal says, depression largely stems from a perceived inability to control one’s own situation. However, I would add the caveat that, if one does not desire such control, then depression doesn’t set in. Basically, the “friction” between *desired* and *perceived* control of one’s situation causes depression. Anyway…

I, too, studied Nietzsche – years ago, now, but I did. I agreed with him in most cases, though I didn’t always like his way of arguing his points, but that largely comes down to a matter of personal preference (“Both of us headed to the top of the mountain, but I chose that route…”), and I seem to recall finding the odd logical error, but by and large he got everything right, if you ask me. Now, what one chooses to do with that knowledge/insight, well, that has to do with individual choice and personal preference, doesn’t it? Having a gun doesn’t mean you have to shoot it all willy-nilly at everything that moves, y’know? It just means you have a gun – you decide what to do with it. Anyway…

Welcome to the forums! 🙂

There lies serenity in Chaos. Seek ye the eye of the hurricane.

[Elgos_GrimParticipant 254]

I learned through Nietzche and my own thoughts that one reason for my depression was powerlessness.

Nietzsche is awesome! I quite like Jean-Paul Sartre (especially his work on freedom/choice).

Welcome to the Forums!

[experiencedParticipant]

Hi and welcome to MGTOW. Thank you for your intro-post. “Growth doesn’t occur without stress.” You’ll find the right amount of tension on the strings at this site causes no BS music to clear the mind. Again, welcome and glad you’re here.

 

flight of the Valkyries.

vs

awesome bass lead in to…………………….. “another brick in the wall“

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[IAmTheVillainParticipant 6]

Thank you for the warm welcomes and interesting comments. I wish your profiles linked to your introductions so I could get to know you a bit more.

Anyway, looking forward to talking with you.

Jason, we could have a good conversation on this topic sometime, I think. You probably know this, but the Third Noble Truth in Buddhism (I’m not a buddhist) is that suffering comes from desire, so to stop suffering, they say, you have to stop desiring. Well, I’d rather die than stop desiring, and I can take the suffering that comes with that. As for the gun, there wouldn’t be any point in shooting it.

iLearn, I’m wrong more often than anyone, but those things you listed seem to me to be somewhat empowering. I and probably everyone have been made by herd morility to feel wrong for certain moral judgements. But if you go your own way you stop caring about what they say and start realizing you can be right when everyone else is wrong. That – being unaffected by herd morality – makes us more powerful than it. I know this because I felt weak when I was affected by it.

[JasonParticipant 282]

Yep, I studied the basics of Buddhism years ago, too. Come to think of it, I studied a helluva lot of philosophy in middle and high school… Hmm. Anyway, yes, the Buddhists got that one right – but as you say, the individual must decide whether they can – or wish to – endure that suffering. Knowing the cause of suffering doesn’t determine the “right” or “wrong” of the suffering itself, just its cause. The Third Noble Truth portrays just that – truth. But what you do with that truth? Entirely up to you, same as the gun.

As far as the whole herd mentality bit goes, nowadays I try to live by the following: “As long as you don’t involve someone who doesn’t want to get involved, do whatever the hell you want.” Or in other words, as long as you don’t set yourself above others’ free will (except to negate the actions of another person doing so) I don’t care. You wanna get drunk? Go ahead, as long as you don’t let any “innocent bystanders” get hurt because of it (say, by drinking-and-driving). Wanna smoke? Go ahead, as long as nobody else gets hurt by it against their will (ok, kinda difficult in practice with the last one, considering how even miniscule amounts of tobacco smoke cause cellular damage and how it spreads and gets in clothes/hair and everything, but you get the point…). If you’ve got consent from everyone involved, do whatever the hell you want.

*Ahem* and come to think of it, I may not actually have posted a proper introduction yet. I should probably get around to that…

There lies serenity in Chaos. Seek ye the eye of the hurricane.

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

experienced wrote:

Hi and welcome to MGTOW. Thank you for your intro-post. “Growth doesn’t occur without stress.” You’ll find the right amount of tension on the strings at this site causes no BS music to clear the mind. Again, welcome and glad you’re here. flight of the Valkyries. vs awesome bass lead in to…………………….. “another brick in the wall“

Oh man I had some dealings with that ship …. beautiful machine but scrapped re budget. Replaced by the F4 Phantom.

Happy days.

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