Phone on a date

[RockmaninoffParticipant 1641]

Smartphones! God, I f~~~ing hate smartphones.

Only a woman would think that, when trying to make a good first impression, it would be acceptable to ignore the man you’re trying to attract and instead stare into your f~~~ing phone. I’ve had a woman stare into her f~~~ing phone when I was kissing her.

Don’t know about you, but if she really thinks that I’m going to make an effort to be more interesting than her smart phone, she can sleep with her smartphone alone instead.

I wanted to share some ideas. What’s the best way to react to this disrespectful and inappropriate behavior? Ignore it? Walk out? Insist she turn it off or the date isn’t happening? My dad suggested to tell her: “Either none of us is going to be on his phone, or both of us will be. Your choice.” And if she continues being on her phone, you just whip out your phone and ignore her. Thoughts?

". . . elle, suivant l’usage des femmes et des chats qui ne viennent pas quand on les appelle et qui viennent quand on ne les appelle pas, s’arrêta devant moi et m’adressa la parole"—Prosper Mérimée

[MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To GiveParticipant 6635]

Walk out! You should have more standards for yourself and time then to be wasting it with an attention whore! On to the next…….

Never lose sight of what brought you here.

[Silverstone the SecondParticipant]

Just leave, or wait for the “date” to be over, and never call back. I can’t stand it, it’s so pathetic and most of it’s drivle they’re saying anyway, like omg, lol, ikr type bulls~~~ to some air headed statement made by one of her friends or another dude. If she can’t even unglue herself from that phone, then she wasn’t that interested and is a lost cause. F~~~ that s~~~.

Feminism is a movement where opinions are presented as facts and emotions are presented as evidence.

[Soldier-MedicParticipant 2566]

Just leave. If she is that absorbed in her phone, she probably won’t notice for a while.

"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.

[XSDBSParticipant 3598]

Rockmaninoff wrote:

Walk out?

Exactly!
Get up, and walk out.
When she attempts to contact you (to shame you), ignore/delete her calls/voice-mails/texts.
Don’t ever contact her again.

[Biggvs_DickvsParticipant 3725]

Rockmaninoff wrote:

What’s the best way to react to this disrespectful and inappropriate behavior?

First of all, make sure when you plan the date that it is something you would really want to do with or without a girl along. Second, if she pulls out her phone during the date, make sure she pays for at least half.

Leykis101 states that when this happens, you should excuse yourself to go to the bathroom and then leave without telling her. If you’re paying for dinner, you are paying for her undivided attention. If her phone rings and she answers and the words out of her mouth are anything but “OMG what hospital are you at Dad?” then she has broken the contract and you should just leave and leave her with the dinner bill.

As Leykis puts it, I’ve been the guy on the other end of that phone call. I’m like “when you’re done with this loser, grab a bottle and head over to my place.”

Do you really want to be the guy paying for her dinner when someone else is f~~~ing her that night?

At the very least when the bill comes, divvy it up by what each of you ordered.

Seriously – do it.

"Data, I would be delighted to offer any advice I can on understanding women. When I have some, I'll let you know." --Captain Picard,

[hmskl’dParticipant 6406]

And it’s not only dates; I’m being asked to wait frequently as people are interrupted by their phones and .. give me the “just one minute” and hand signal to wait as they take a call..
When they are at my house; they get texts and calls and I’m always the one waiting as they tend to the other person first on the phone. Sometimes they even walk out to their car and sit in the drivers seat talking as I wait for them to return. What can I do? .. put a sign along my driveway saying “phone free zone” … I tempted to do just that.
I was trying to check out at the grocery store the other day and the lady ahead of me gave both me and the check out clerk the wait one moment sign as she took a call … she made the entire check out line stop before she paid for her groceries.

[XSDBSParticipant 3598]

hmskl’d wrote:

I was trying to check out at the grocery store the other day and the lady ahead of me gave both me and the check out clerk the wait one moment sign as she took a call … she made the entire check out line stop before she paid for her groceries.

When that happens to me, I pull out my phone and pretend to be the person they are talking to.
I’ll say silly/stupid things, it will confuse/anger them until they say “I’ll have to call you back.”, and hang up.
I’ll say “Ok, call me back when you’re at the bank!” and put my phone away.
Then I’ll smile at them while they give me the eye of death.

[TheroniusParticipant 975]

If you want to be polite you could suggest that they call a taxi for their ride home as you casually walk away.
Women who can’t put down the smart phone on a date are just completely rude and annoying. There’s no excuse for that crap, and I can’t think of anything too rude to do to them in return, including going over to talk to some other woman, or making loud farting noises in the background.
In the real world, outside of dates and such, it is normal to simply ignore people talking on phones, and put some distance between you. They’re busy. They’re on the phone. It is used as a sort of screen when out in public. “Don’t bother me, I’m on the phone.” You look right through them. It has a foundation in phone courtesy we learned with old school phones. Nobody wants people to talk to them while they’re on the phone, and listening in on phone conversations is creepy. That’s why I see no problem with just walking away. Ignoring a date for the phone is rude. Walking away is solidly polite by all established conventions.

"I am is reportedly the shortest sentence in the English language. Could it be that I do is the longest sentence?" - George Carlin

[bigboy83Participant 11312]

If it wasn’t for their f~~~ing smartphones, they probably wouldn’t even know about, MGTOW.

LMAO!

Shit Tested, Cunt Approved.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22521]

The scary thing about going out on a date with a woman using a smartphone during the date. She could be giving her female friends a play by play of the date, with her female friends offering suggestions on how best to squeeze the most money from you with the least effort.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Rockmaninoff wrote:

I wanted to share some ideas. What’s the best way to react to this disrespectful and inappropriate behavior? Ignore it? Walk out? Insist she turn it off or the date isn’t happening? My dad suggested to tell her: “Either none of us is going to be on his phone, or both of us will be. Your choice.” And if she continues being on her phone, you just whip out your phone and ignore her. Thoughts?

They use their Smartphones like the morphine drip you get at the hospital after surgery. When you need a dose of morphine, you hit the button. When a woman needs a dose of attention, she whips out her smartphone during dinner like it’s totally acceptable. It’s not acceptable. It’s rude. Dump that bitch like an anchor.

Giving a woman a smartphone is like giving her a permanent excuse to behave like a rude, inconsiderate pig.

Every time a woman’s smartphone vibrates, she’ll jump like she’s got an electric collar. Addicted to attention. Have you ever seen a dog with an invisible fence electric collar? A dog will hear the beeping and just about s~~~ himself. It’s the same reaction a woman has when her Smartphone starts going off.

If you know her or are speaking directly to her — and she’s locked into her phone looking down at it — be rude, say nothing, reach over and tap on her screen like a LITTLE too hard with your index finger. That’s your “warning” – as if to say “keep doing that and I’m outta here”. Like a complete idiot using a keyboard with just your index finger. TAP…….. TAP……. TAP…… downward to towards the floor. (not so hard that it falls out of her hands)

If you’re out on a date or you just met her and she doesn’t excuse herself before picking up , turn and walk.

“I have to take this”.

“Oh yeah ‘cuz you’re SOOOOOO BUSY.”

Then exit. Make it your policy.

Answering is bad enough, but thumbing at it while pretending she is right there with you is reason to walk. She’s not busy. She just wants to see how many people re-tweeted a photo of her t~~~.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[OldBillParticipant]

Rockmaninoff wrote:

Walk out?

Definitely. I’ve done it in the past and will do so in the future. My “explanation” is “I thought the date was over what with you busy with your phone and all. Have a good evening!”

Insist she turn it off or the date isn’t happening?

What, you have to train her now? Isn’t she supposed to be aware of common courtesy already? More emphatic and in tune with people’s feelings because “vagina” and all that s~~~? And she’s ignoring the living human being in front of her by burying her head in her phone?

So her the same courtesy she’s showing you. Get up and walk away.

I’ve had women – adult women with manners – pull out their phone and apologize in advance “Sorry, but I waiting for a call because of X….” Those women you don’t walk away from.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[TheWalkerParticipant 58]

If we’re trying to change the way things work between men and women they the only way is to tell them that their behaviour is unacceptable. If it continues you walk out.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Rockmaninoff wrote:

Walk out?

OldBill wrote:

Definitely.

Definitely.

No need to discipline her or explain. She’s not aware of how rude it is. Get up. Find the waiter, pay for your s~~~, and leave. No matter how much your phone explodes when she sends you 50 texts in the next 2 minutes –, look at it and laugh.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 6]

All of the above ^^^, and decide whether or not you want to block them after you have left…

[RockmaninoffParticipant 1641]

Thanks for the responses, guys.

I’d be perfectly justified in walking out on any and every woman who does that, but doesn’t that mean I’d be walking out on every woman, period? Woman eat with the phone on the table next to them, for f~~~’s sake.

It’s a character flaw and inconsiderate, certainly, but everyone has some character flaw in one way or another. Isn’t one warning sufficient?

". . . elle, suivant l’usage des femmes et des chats qui ne viennent pas quand on les appelle et qui viennent quand on ne les appelle pas, s’arrêta devant moi et m’adressa la parole"—Prosper Mérimée

[MattNYCParticipant 2329]

+1 for dumping the bitch where she sits/stands. No need to explain either, once she pulls out her phone, she’s dead to you. Don’t pay attention to her, don’t respond to her questions/hysteria, don’t answer her future txts, etc.

[Note i’d consider making an exception if a women said, at first, “Hey, my girlfriend was in a minor car accident this afternoon. I told her to call if she needed anything. I don’t mean to be rude, but she was pretty shaken up.” Wow. Courtesy. Of course, it’s worth noting that no woman’s ever said this lol.]

However – I never make dates w/women around eating something. Too much expectation that the man will pay – f~~~ that s~~~. If you’re meeting her at a bar, pay cash for each round. Alternately, coffee dates are cheap & simple first dates. And easy to eject from if she’s an idiot, and easy to escalate if you want to go further.

Better yet – invite her to the rockclimbing gym with you, or volunteering at a soup kitchen, or a museum. Invite them along to do s~~~ that you’d already be doing because you enjoy it – if she wants to be a part of your life, she has to add something to it. It’s amazing how many women fail these simple sort of tests.

[OldBillParticipant]

Rockmaninoff wrote:

Isn’t one warning sufficient?

Sure, if you want to make the effort. Sometimes, they’re not worth the effort.

I generally drop a hint first, especially with the co-eds and grad students I’m introducing to fine dining, live theater, or the like. I’ll pull my own phone out, shut it off or put it on vibrate, and say something like “We won’t be interrupted this way…”

It’s somewhat similar when some clueless ditz plops her cell phone on the table like it’s the medical device which keeps her heart beating. I’ll gesture towards the phone and say something like “I thought we were going to talk…”. If the phone gets put away only to magically appear again, I’ll try the “Oh you” look once or twice. After that, I’m walking.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

My feeling is that if I am meeting someone for a drink or food or an event or whatever, I am committing my time and attention to the activity and to them and they should do the same. If it’s a date, this is doubly true and if I’m being expected to pay, it is mandatory.

I don’t have this process nailed down yet and it may have to vary from case to case, but my approach at this point is to ask as soon as we sit down “Are you expecting any important calls from your business or family for the next couple of hours? To which they’ll almost certainly answer no. Then I say “Great. Here’s my phone… lock yours and hand it to me and we’ll swap back before we part ways. Oh, if you want to take pictures, just swipe up in the corner and you can use the camera.”

If she balks, I’ll take a moment to explain with this: “I’m concerned these days about the level of detachment people display from each other, even when they’re sitting right across a table. If we swap phones, neither one of us will be distracted from the reason we came here, yeah?”

If she flat out refuses, then I have the choice of getting up and leaving or asking her why being able to access her phone is so important, which gets us right into the Minefield of Bulls~~~… exactly where I want to me. My primary objective in a first date is to determine whether or not the woman is full of s~~~, if she is, then I’m out… so I want to know that as soon a possible,

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