Philosophy of Manipulation

[Anonymous 18]

Found this informative clip from an unlikely channel, tech repair, on youtube.

Intelligent take on manipulation:

[DDJParticipant 1880]

48 Laws of Power…great books for MGTOW, provides a good set of survival tools for living in a feminist society.

Every woman is a slut, if you catch her on the right day.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Great video. And damn, can I ever relate to it. Uncanny parallels to similar experiences.

Around the 14 minute mark he talks about “flipping the switch” to the off position and at that point you’re done. Two EXTREME manipulator / sociopaths I know brought me to that point after a couple of years. One of them would ALWAYS have something negative to say about a decision I made, or a purchase decision, life decision, business decision, …. even the decision about what to EAT!!! I ordered shrimp and he would say “they are high in cholesterol”. I leased a car and he said I should have picked another model. If we went out to eat and I picked a table, he would say “no let’s sit at another table”. He would call and I would say “can’t Im busy” and he would go on for 30 minutes about how I say “no” instead of dropping everything whenever he rings. Even if I ordered a scoop of ice-cream for dessert… he would tell me to get another flavor.

He needed to manipulate everything. It didn’t even need to make sense.
If something was black, he decided it was white. And vice versa.

One day, I had enough – just like the guy in the video. I decided I was just …. done. Flipped the switch. And like the video says…. he totally SNAPPED when I wouldn’t let him do it anymore. He really got emotional and hostile. That’ s when I looked up the term “sociopath”. I always thought it was the same as “psychopath” but it’s not.

Sociopaths are very tough to spot sometimes. They attempt to make you question your own sanity. As if recognizing what they are doing – after you point it out to them – is all in your imagination. It’s designed to induce madness. There was a movie about this with Ingrid Bergman called “Gaslight”. He was a professional at gas-lighting…… and he didn’t even realize he was doing it. Scary s~~~.

Sociopathy is surprisingly common in women today. (If you research it, it talks about how it used to be more commonly a rare male trait). She goes through your emails and when you discover it and confront her, she twists it around with “don’t you want me to be able to trust you???”. Be very careful. If you don’t know a sociopath when you meet one, they can literally manipulate and ruin your life.

At 17;30 (in the video) he mentions EXACTLY what I’m talking about.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[WallyParticipant]

Awesome video, thanks for sharing, when I think back on similar situations I can see exactly what he’s talking about.

"what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."

[Anonymous 42]

The only difference between his “switch” and my “switch”; mine just goes of by it’s self, I’m not aware of any effort or decision process, mine is more like a fuse that “pops” with a puff of smoke. Are any of you guys like that? In my last and final “so called TLC”, four months into it I had never raised my voice, never lost my composure, and never spoke one word of putting her down, or insulting her in anyway. Turmoil turmoil turmoil, her life was spiraling out of control, I insisted she listen to me on her financial handling of her property, and many other logical “moves” that would have made her a nifty profit…
I found that after four months she hadn’t listened to one single word of advice I had to offer, not the small things, and certainly not the larger picture, I’d say (metaphorically) “look out turn left” and she would turn right….
She was a consumer of alcohol at a time I cut mine way way back. After her “best behavior stage” the party girl started to come out and drag me back to party world!
I wasn’t having it! My newly purchased home was on two steel I-beams atop four wood pilings with hydraulic jacks, I started to see her as a threat to my home and future!
Just before the holidays she disappeared for a week without a word or trace, she called me up and told me she cut herself (scratched wrists) and admitted herself into the hospital for treatment.
I told her I understand and that my being around her is no good, that she needs time to work things out.
When I said “I understand” it was like a new path opened up and I was already on my way, I saw my future and realized a woman will only destroy me and bring endless misery in the process.
That was the day “MAIN BUS #2 FUSE” popped without so much as a whisper. I never raised my voice, I ever got angry, I never called her back, within a two weeks she called me and tried to lure me back into her Virgina, I told her I wasn’t interested and that our relationship was WRONG. She stopped at my house a few days later and wanted in, she was looking all dolled up and sexy, I told her (with the door cracked and my foot against it, pulling up on the doorknob to increase the weight on my foot jamming the door), in my mind I was thinking that’s the last time I’m going to let a woman into my life!
My MGTOW path was born in the fires of female insanity! About 3 or 4 months later I got a call from her telling me she was infected with Hep C, and that I needed to be tested. I was tested: (-). She had a dirty dick in her sometime during my MGTOW birth…. LONG LIVE MGTOW! YOU’LL LIVE “LONG” MGTOW!

[Anonymous 18]

Keymaster wrote:

Sociopaths are very tough to spot sometimes. They attempt to make you question your own sanity. As if recognizing what they are doing – after you point it out to them – is all in your imagination. It’s designed to induce madness.

Like he mentined that the use of incremental truths outside of a context can be effective in manipulating their victims. And being logical as men are its harder to break free from the serial small truths thrown at them that are hard to dispute on factual bases The bigger picture always puts things in perspective.

Questioning one’s own sanity is a sure sign that its not the man’s issue, since the crazy ones rarely grasp the situation to ask same of their own actions.

[BDParticipant 1146]

Ilearn, thank you for sharing that video.

I thought it was great how he broke down manipulation into steps, and how it is tough to draw the line because each step is so small that it makes you feel like an asshole when you pull the plug.

Great share.

Because in order to be able to think, you have to risk being offensive.

[FunInTheSunParticipant 8283]

Wow, this guy recovered nicely from his insane mother. Good for him. I wish people didn’t have to grow up in households like that.

"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)

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