Paul Joseph Watson: The Collapse of Western Civilization (Video)

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22521]

Paul Joseph Watson: The Collapse of Western Civilization (Video)

This is a good video to watch.

But, the item that some people will miss from the video is that it seems PJW has decided to reject capitalism and he states had has no solution.

It looks like PJW has downed a few red pills.

Years ago, PJW supported capitalism, but it seems not any more. He even points out that conservatism no longer exists because there is nothing conservatism is trying to “conserve”.

I believe that conservatism is dead and has been replaced by a workers style Marxism. It seems that most people have missed this change and are still expected the same response

Most of those whom realize this keep this to themselves because this does not fit their view of the world, or they are terrified in realizing that there main parts (in the U.S.) are to collectivism groups whom wish to take from the other group to fund what benefits themselves.

This is like a horror show. A twilight zone style episode, where two vampires, whom each think the other is human, whom is plotting the murder of the other to drink their blood, only to realize to late that both of them are vampires.

And before anyone claims that President Trump is a capitalist. He is a centrist democrat, whom loves the U.S., and ran on the republican ticket for the White House, whom spent decades building his fortunes by working with workers unions.

MAGA is Marxism.

[PhilParticipant 205]

Mr. Paul Watson also took a greasy s~~~ on us mgtow men. Have not viewed him since. Blimey bastard is dead to me.

[SandalsParticipant 4253]

The time for talk is over. All these “conervative” people do is complain about liberals, whereas all liberals do is organize and forge ahead.

Not a single conservative organizes anything. Just complain about the other side.

[Anonymous 38]

F~~~ that gobby t~~~.

He does however highlight some of the reasons I’m moving out to the country for a simple life. Cities are f~~~ing degenerate.

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

It is all about views, money, etc, all this people are in for the cash.

They will change the tune as much as needed, all people is like that and that is ok, western civilization aint over, not in our life time and why do i care about it?

What has western civilization ever done for us?

War, death, slavery, f~~~ it, i dont owe s~~~ to anyone.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[TicParticipant 4329]

Sandals wrote:

The time for talk is over. All these “conervative” people do is complain about liberals, whereas all liberals do is organize and forge ahead.
Not a single conservative organizes anything. Just complain about the other side.

Very true.

God bless peace and freedom.

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

I have been prepping since about 2009, so my preps are fairly in depth at this point. I am mainly gap filling. I have started filling the gaps in the prepping areas of CBRN and Comms. (I got a handcrank emergency radio & charger). The next prepping purchases will be a 5-set of walkie-talkies.

If I had any real confidence in Western civilization NOT collapsing, I wouldn’t have recently bought Tyvek hazmat suits, gloves, boot covers to complement my gas masks, nor would I have recently bought a Geiger counter.

In 2009, I felt we had 15-20 years. Now in 2019, I feel we have 5-10 years. I stand by my original timeframe of collapse between 2024 and 2029. I hope it is not sooner.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

Ranger One wrote:

I have been prepping since about 2009, so my preps are fairly in depth at this point. I am mainly gap filling. I have started filling the gaps in the prepping areas of CBRN and Comms. (I got a handcrank emergency radio & charger). The next prepping purchases will be a 5-set of walkie-talkies.
If I had any real confidence in Western civilization NOT collapsing, I wouldn’t have recently bought Tyvek hazmat suits, gloves, boot covers to complement my gas masks, nor would I have recently bought a Geiger counter.
In 2009, I felt we had 15-20 years. Now in 2019, I feel we have 5-10 years. I stand by my original timeframe of collapse between 2024 and 2029. I hope it is not sooner.

I hope you are right, i cant wait for a lawless world soo i can go full carnage once for all, i wont live long a week top, but hell i bet it will be fun.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

However i cant see no scenario where that happens, nothing i can see in medicine field with that degree of damage, nuclear war wont happen, only posibility is natural global desaster… Fat chance.

Nahhh we will probably die of old and wont see the end, but if it happens and you are right and ready cpngrats, if it doesnt happen well i bet you have a lot of fun doing prepping, congrats

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

Carnage wrote:

However i cant see no scenario where that happens, nothing i can see in medicine field with that degree of damage, nuclear war wont happen, only posibility is natural global desaster… Fat chance.
Nahhh we will probably die of old and wont see the end, but if it happens and you are right and ready cpngrats, if it doesnt happen well i bet you have a lot of fun doing prepping, congrats

Everything is based on bet-hedging. If I am wrong, I still have retirement accounted for.

If I am wrong, I am still eating more healthy food that comes fresh out of the garden instead of processed food out of a box with weird chemicals.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[Joey AlfioParticipant]

The sooner the better.

Δεν υπάρχει τίποτε αδύνατο γι’ αυτόν που θα προσπαθήσει. - Μέγας Αλέξανδρος

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

Ranger One wrote:

Carnage wrote:

However i cant see no scenario where that happens, nothing i can see in medicine field with that degree of damage, nuclear war wont happen, only posibility is natural global desaster… Fat chance.Nahhh we will probably die of old and wont see the end, but if it happens and you are right and ready cpngrats, if it doesnt happen well i bet you have a lot of fun doing prepping, congrats

Everything is based on bet-hedging. If I am wrong, I still have retirement accounted for.
If I am wrong, I am still eating more healthy food that comes fresh out of the garden instead of processed food out of a box with weird chemicals.

Exactly, if right you are the smart men, if wrong lot of resources.

Win win.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[narwhalParticipant]

Faust For Science wrote:

Years ago, PJW supported capitalism, but it seems not any more. He even points out that conservatism no longer exists because there is nothing conservatism is trying to “conserve”.

I believe that conservatism is dead and has been replaced by a workers style Marxism. It seems that most people have missed this change and are still expected the same response

I see capitalism as the opposition to socialism/progressiveness in terms that they are both economic principles. I see conservatism and liberal not so much as opposites, but as different collections of social viewpoints on morality.

As an example capitalism/socialism has no sides on issues like abortion, gay marriage, gun rights, etc. You can be a capitalist and be pro-choice, gay, and anti-gun. There is no conflict there. The same goes for socialist, with whatever they feel about these issues. You can also be a conservative who believes in pro-life, no homosexuality, and guns for all…along with a believe that the government should control all commerce.

Our 2 party system and social pressures is what tends to blend things together.

I would agree though that conservatives really aren’t about conserving the status quo anymore, since the status quo has been relinquished to the liberals. Regressive is really more accurate, although the negative connotation would not apply, obviously from their point of view. I don’t think liberal really applies very well either. The word conservative really applies to liberals better since they are mostly trying to preserve what they already have.

It’s fun to imagine what politics would look like if there were no political parties, and representatives actually represented the people they voted for. Perhaps even polled the people of their district on specific issues in one way or another. No artificial grouping of unrelated issues into two camps for the sake of consolidated power.

Ok. Then do it.

[FrankOneParticipant 1417]

narwhal: I prefer the ‘dual axis’ view of politics. One axis is political freedom. The other is economic freedom. https://www.theadvocates.org/quiz/ — by answering the 10 questions it puts a marker on the chart identifying your politics as liberal, conservative, libertarian, authoritarian, or centrist.

My view is as follows:

Conservatives believe in command & control paternalistic government and the primacy of the State over the individual. They vote to slowly expand government. They wish to limit both economic and personal liberty, and impose their cultural norms. Every election cycle they talk about small government, but never vote for it.

Liberals also believe in command & control paternalistic government and the primacy of the State over the individual. They vote to more rapidly expand government. They wish to limit economic freedom. Their position on personal liberty is more muddled; many want to legalize drugs, but also want speech codes, hate crimes, and indoctrination of the youth in public schools.

Personally, I don’t give a rat’s ass about homosexuality or gay marriage — I don’t believe the State should have any role in it whatsoever. I don’t believe the State should issue ANY marriage licenses, but that you should have private contracts between individuals. If people want to marry the same sex, multiple partners, their choice. I believe laws should be the minimum — if what you do doesn’t interfere with MY freedom, it shouldn’t be banned.

The two party system has proved corrosive to liberty and responsible financial management/budgeting.

[narwhalParticipant]

FrankOne wrote:

Conservatives believe in command & control paternalistic government and the primacy of the State over the individual. They vote to slowly expand government. They wish to limit both economic and personal liberty, and impose their cultural norms. Every election cycle they talk about small government, but never vote for it.

If you’re talking about politicians, than I agree. However, I don’t think this definition matches up with conservative voters very well any more. I think conservatives shifted towards libertarian in many ways. I think the shift was do to misrepresentation by conservative politicians, and because they have mostly lost on social issues, such a gay marriage, trans and such. They shifted from wanting to control behavior of others to what they see as moral to simply wanted to keep what they see as immoral from invading their own lives.

Perhaps it’s just my point of view, but this is commonly what you see when you listen to Conservative talking heads. It also explains how a man who’s generally considered to be a rather immoral person became the leader of the conservatives. Conservatives who voted for Trump don’t give a crap about how he lives his personal life. They only care that he can help keep liberal moralities and government from invading their own lives. Perhaps this also explains why liberals don’t seem to understand how anyone could support Trump.

Ok. Then do it.

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

narwhal wrote:

I think conservatives shifted towards libertarian in many ways. I think the shift was do to misrepresentation by conservative politicians, and because they have mostly lost on social issues, such a gay marriage, trans and such. They shifted from wanting to control behavior of others to what they see as moral to simply wanted to keep what they see as immoral from invading their own lives.
Perhaps it’s just my point of view, but this is commonly what you see when you listen to Conservative talking heads. It also explains how a man who’s generally considered to be a rather immoral person became the leader of the conservatives. Conservatives who voted for Trump don’t give a crap about how he lives his personal life. They only care that he can help keep liberal moralities and government from invading their own lives. Perhaps this also explains why liberals don’t seem to understand how anyone could support Trump.

I think this is a good analysis.

Its sums up why I have shifted conservative in the past few years.

I’m atheist; I never was enamored of the Christian conservative George Bush Jr types or anyone that would try to push their religious values. But I see now that the far left “progressive” bulls~~~ is just another religion that I don’t want shoved down my throat any more than Christianity.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[FrankOneParticipant 1417]

narwhal: There are certainly conservative politicians whom I respect — take Justin Amash. He is arguably libertarian. That is a man I’d LOVE to see run for president — though he’d lose, of course.

They only care that he can help keep liberal moralities and government from invading their own lives. Perhaps this also explains why liberals don’t seem to understand how anyone could support Trump.

I’d say many Conservatives I know voted ‘anybody but Clinton’. But many I know live in rural areas, they are not representative of all Republicans, of course. I’d say their hot button issues are/were gun control, the Affordable Care Act, immigration, trade, and manufacturing jobs, among others.

I will credit Trump for a REDUCTION in new regulations vs Obama.

In my view, government has already invaded our lives; the only question is whether it will continue to expand, or will contract.

There are certainly some libertarian Republicans; the House Freedom Caucus has maybe 36 members, if we use that as a crude metric. But, that is out of 435 representatives, about 197 of whom, are Republicans. So let’s call it roughly 18% libertarian-leaning, if you use that metric.

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