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Standing in a line of not happy men meanwhile the women without a ring on the left hand are grinning and couldn’t care less about forking over a fat check to pay tax on land that was once his he paid for she won in divorce among whatever else.
For god sakes, when are men going to learn?Property taxes are further proof we live in a fascist state. None of us “own” property, we only rent property from the state.
Once you take the red pill and realize that property ownership is a lie to begin with, Marxism starts to become appealing.
When the Roman Empire collapsed to the Visigoths, there were actually a fair number or Romans who were better off.
Empires are very expensive and they require lots of coin.
All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.
I give to Ceaser what IS NOT Ceasers, and go on with MY LIFE….
In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash
While Carnage might approve, we’re not better off with anarchy. The question is: How oppressive do we want our government. Compared to the rest, the U.S. of A. ain’t bad. Now, I know there’s tons of waste and corruption, but it takes money to run it and that means we gotta pony up something one way or the other. As long as the asshole Democrat socialists don’t take power, I really ain’t gripin’ (too much).
We just don't realize life's most significant events while they're happening. Back then, I thought, "Well, there'll be other days". I didn't realize that that was the only day. - "Moonlight" Graham
I don’t mind paying property tax. That’s local. It goes to schools, police, fire dept, parks. I hate paying the massive Federal taxes.
I hate paying the massive Federal taxes.
Somebody has to CONTINUE TO PAY to PROTECT the WORLD…..
In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash
I don’t mind paying property tax. That’s local. It goes to schools, police, fire dept, parks. I hate paying the massive Federal taxes.
I agree to an extent. I do benefit from what property tax pays for, however, I don’t get why I pay more than my neighbor simply because my proerty is worth more than his, or vice versa. We are using the services equally, are we not?
Police and fire department should be a flat fee for all. Parks should be a usage fee, call it a toll. School should be a base fee (since we all benefit from an educated society) plus additional fee for each school age dependent.
Property tax, like income tax, is based on the s~~~ty idea that those who have more income/wealth should pay more than those who have less for the same services.
Ok. Then do it.
While Carnage might approve, we’re not better off with anarchy. The question is: How oppressive do we want our government. Compared to the rest, the U.S. of A. ain’t bad. Now, I know there’s tons of waste and corruption, but it takes money to run it and that means we gotta pony up something one way or the other. As long as the asshole Democrat socialists don’t take power, I really ain’t gripin’ (too much).
Its not waste and corruption we have to worry about; it is creeping crony capitalism, socialism and the police state. “1984” is treated like an instruction manual and not a cautionary tale.
I would love to know how much In-Q-Tel was into Facebook, Twitter, and Amazon. I know CIA has a $600 million contract with Amazon. All of that is probably the tip of the iceberg.
The Deep State is in cahoots with Wall Street and other economic influencers. (read “Confessions of an Economic Hitman”). The Deep State is also in cahoots with Silicon Valley.
All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.
.. the Township where I live and pay property taxes now has sent out letters to every taxpayer telling them that they need to send an additional $50.00 check each season .. they call an “annual inspection fee” .. this is to inspect and make certain that the snowplow has enough room to safely turn around at your end of the road, or they will back out at end of Township road .. and leave you snowbound. I sent in the fee last season .. no one checked ..no one inspected.
I didn’t pay the fee this year .. the snowplow has been turning around on this farm for over 28 years.
Guess what?! .. the plow is still turning around in my yard. Has been, all winter .. and no inspection needed, enough room to easily turn a grader, two graders .. they know that .. I know that. Besides, I have enough equipment to clear my own road .. they know that .. I know that.
I recently said to the the plow driver .. as I handed him a can of soft drink .. thanks for plowing up to my drive and winging back those drifts ..
His answer “it’s much easier to turn here than to back way out again for a quarter mile”.
He laughed, I laughed and … smiled to myself.btw .. also got a bill from the County for a new thing called $35.00 filing fee .. this is totally new ..
each time my septic is pumped they get a signed copy from the pumping service with the info .. they need $35.00 to cover their costs of filing that document .. or they will report the property owner to the county finance committee.
Threats .. more threats .. made up fees .. fees falling from the sky .. the pumping itself cost me $225.00 and the fee to the ladies in the office .. will make it an even $260.00 .. plus the cost of a postage stamp.I wonder who made up that $35.00 amount? … probably $25.00 for the office gals and $10.00 for K-Cups for the coffee machine.
My neighbor has a small family run Christmas Tree Farm .. his property taxes this year alone were about $10,000.00 .. multiply that by ten years …………………… I don’t know how his family can possibly pay those taxes? .. he drives an old beater used truck.
** … now you see why I made a post, in frustration, the other day about dumping it all and getting a teeny tiny little well-built RV and driving away as far as I can get .. into the sunset.
Got a letter the other day from my homeowner’s insurance company stating .. “we no longer insure outbuildings, only free standing garage and primary dwelling” as of the renewal date of your policy .. any buildings other than house or garage previously covered on your policy are no longer covered by our company .. if you wish, you may cancel this policy now or at the renewal date. I’ve been with this small company for decades, never made a claim .. and now get a wake up call as to how they really operate. If I switch to a new insurer it means starting the entire process again .. new policy, inspections, premiums and all the hoops to jump through .. please see above why I want to dump everything and live in a camper** or a boat.
While Carnage might approve, we’re not better off with anarchy.
There will not be anarchy because most of the crime, “terrorism”, and global conflicts are being caused by the U.S. deep state and funded with money stolen from the people through taxes.
While cities might burn to the ground from welfare riots, the rest of the nation will finally know peace and prosperity, because the rural and small town U.S. population have enough guns and ammo to stop an military invasion.
The Deep State is in cahoots with Wall Street and other economic influencers. (read “Confessions of an Economic Hitman”). The Deep State is also in cahoots with Silicon Valley.
The deep state and globalists are trying very hard to kill the oil industry because they have lost control of the oil industry:
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-02-25/32-trillion-push-disrupt-entire-oil-industry
I can see some of thee property taxes, still irks me to no end paying them. A few years back the county/parish level police made up it mind it wanted 75 dollars from every property owner. That one really p~~~es me off to no end.
mgtow is its own worst enemy- https://www.campusreform.org/
I used to live in like a “suburb” area and paid a s~~~ load for taxes. After the divorce, I moved just 30 minutes away to a nothing little s~~~ town where I live just on the very edge and pay a fraction of the taxes I used to pay. The house is much smaller, (so what), but I have the same amount of land, (almost an acre), and I’m further away from civilization and people. Used to have neighbors just a few feet away on either side of me and across the street. Now I could walk out in my yard naked if I wanted to because I’m mostly surrounded by woods living on a dead end road, but I still have town utilities and sewer.
Taxes used to be one or two thousand. Now they’re one or two hundred. Utilities are much cheaper too since it’s a smaller and more energy efficient house. All utilities combined, natural gas, electric, water, including sewer and trash rarely reach $300.00 a month.
The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.
The deep state and globalists are trying very hard to kill the oil industry because they have lost control of the oil industry:
That sounds like an incredible dangerous plan. If you sabotage ICOs, you aren’t going to kill the oil supply, you’re just going to prop up NCOs as the article suggests. You’re going to kill a lot of western jobs in the process. NCOs will again have greater control over supply, so they’ll raise the cost of oil again. The last time they did this though, it gave US companies an excuse to develop fracing, finding ways to do it cheaper and thus produce oil cheaper and giving NCOs less power to control the market. I doubt they’ll want to do that again. So instead of artificially raising the price of oil to the point where renewable energy prices could be profitable, they’ll just give up control of every to the NCOs.
And of course, they’ll eventually give up the plan when they see their investments failing, so smart folks can get back into oil and right the ship. In short the plan won’t work, and they’ll only hurt themselves and western workers in the process.
Ok. Then do it.
That sounds like an incredible dangerous plan. If you sabotage ICOs, you aren’t going to kill the oil supply, you’re just going to prop up NCOs as the article suggests. You’re going to kill a lot of western jobs in the process.
That is the idea.
Globalism wants to destroy western civilization to create global feudalism.
For those whom did not know. ICO are privately owned companies and NCOs are state owned companies.
Keep in mind this is by Zerohedge with Zerohedge regularly posting articles against shale oil and the U.S. becoming energy independent.
The good news is that NCOs are spending their way into bankruptcy and the ICOs keep finding ways to produce oil more cheaply.
While Venezuela would be the top of list for bankrupt NCO nations, Saudi Arabia would likely be next on that list. It has been publicly learned that over the last four decades the Saudi Royal family spend their own revenue almost as fast as they sold their oil. They did not save for later. Well, later as arrived.
Shale Oil Companies have found a way to produce oil more cheaply than Saudi Arabia can price their oil.
Also, along with the U.S. and Russia being the talk natural gas and oil producers, with the new nationalist President of Brazil, Brazil is expected to tap into both their massive ethanol production for global us, and Brazil’s vast natural resources.
The whole point of environmentalism is to destroy technological civilization and lock of resources to allow the globalist to have a monopoly on both technology and natural resource. Now, after decades of globalist control, the systems the globalists put in place are finally eroding.
I don’t think globalist intend to be as destructive as they are. They absolutely think the world is better off under their control and don’t mind ruining a few lives for what they see as the greater good, but I don’t think it’s the goal.
With this sabotage plan, I do think they believe they are doing good and will bring about more interest and development in renewable energy. They just greatly under estimate how dependent we are on oil, not just for energy but for the economy, and believe the loss is worth it to reach the utopia they envision. Besides under estimating the costs, they fail to realize that the world won’t be controlled, and sabotaging US and western interest will only strength other interests around the world.
Shale Oil Companies have found a way to produce oil more cheaply than Saudi Arabia can price their oil.
The statement above doesn’t get stated enough in mu opinion. The impact was tremendous. It took away the power of OPEC to control prices and they used to. And of course, expanded the supply of oil over all.
But it wasn’t just oil that was impacted, interest in renewable/alternative energy as well as energy efficiency greatly increased during this time period. As much as politicians and environmentalist want to appeal to feelings and death threats, it’s money and necessity that drives change. Always has always will.
So in some ways, sabotaging the oil industry will raise the price of oil and push development of alternative energy. But it wasn’t enough before and it won’t be enough now. I don’t think foreign oil will be stupid enough to push the price high enough to let alternative sources (like shale) get serious consideration again. If there was some actual game changing tech out there that could get it done, just needing to invest in infrastructure or efficient use/techniques, than the timing could be better. But no, they’ll only cause disruption.
BTW, I work for an O&G midstream, and have worked at others. The one thing I am sure of is O&G execs don’t care about oil. They care about watching markets to gauge when to invest, where to invest, and when to pull back. If game changing tech came along today, they wouldn’t try to stifle it, they’d invest in it.
Ok. Then do it.
The statement above doesn’t get stated enough in mu opinion. The impact was tremendous. It took away the power of OPEC to control prices and they used to. And of course, expanded the supply of oil over all.
Wait until you look at the natural gas market. Between U.S. and Russia natural gas exports, OPEC can barely break even on natural gas.
So in some ways, sabotaging the oil industry will raise the price of oil and push development of alternative energy.
Actually no. Such actions by politicians are to raise gas prices and then raise other taxes to fund government lead scams for alternative energy which politicians get kickbacks from.
For example, look at all that tax money that went into “alternative energy” under Obama, with nothing in return for the people, as a few people got rich as the expense of everyone else.
My neighbor has a small family run Christmas Tree Farm .. his property taxes this year alone were about $10,000.00 .. multiply that by ten years …………………… I don’t know how his family can possibly pay those taxes? .. he drives an old beater used truck.
** … now you see why I made a post, in frustration, the other day about dumping it all and getting a teeny tiny little well-built RV and driving away as far as I can get .. into the sunset.
I live in a s~~~ty democrat state. In terms of state debt we have one of the heaviest state debt per capita loads in the country, massive unfunded liabilities for state pensions, run a large deficit, and all taxes and fees considered are one of the highest taxed states in the country.
I own 1 modest car I bought used and live in a small condo. The car is currently a 6 year old car and this year cost me 350 in taxes, 100 dollar for registration, 20 dollars for emissions testing, and to top it off our gas tax is one of the top 5 in the country. Taxes on the condo run me between 1700 and 1800 a year…for a property I could probably sell for about 60k right now.
I make good money. I’d love to buy a house with a garage and park a sports car in it. The problem is if I go buy a used Corvette of Viper or something I’d love to have for a toy, I’m paying 1000+ a year in taxes for a car worth maybe 30-40k vs my car that is worth maybe 10 at this point. A modest house around here, maybe 1800-2000 square foot range sitting on 1/2 to 1 acre in a decent neighborhood, and you are paying easily 6k+ in taxes.
Is it worth it for me to increase my tax burden by 6000 a year just to have a bigger place to live and a car that probably wouldn’t leave the garage 4 months out of the year due to the weather around here? Hell no! Let’s keep in mind those are just property taxes as well. I also paid 7,000 to my state in income taxes last year, plus a sales tax on everything I bought. Add all that up and multiply it by another 40-50 years I’ll probably live…god damn that is a lot of money.
Now I’m not complaining about all taxes…just living the “American dream” out in a high tax state these days is f~~~ing ridiculous…I’ll be living here on the cheap for a few more years, banking money like crazy, then going and enjoying a higher standard of living somewhere else. F~~~ this state. I can literally move a couple states away, own more stuff, benefit from all the same “government services” I do now, and pay a hell of a lot less in taxes…it mostly just boils down to state workers here have some of the most generous state pensions in the nation, and we have some of the most generous welfare benefits…neither of which does a damn thing for the average working guy. Heck maybe I’ll just move out of the country at this point…keep my citizenship in case WWIII breaks out and keep my income and investments in such a manner I’ll pay no taxes. With the way government works these days, downsizing and riding off into the sunset isn’t a bad idea, and can literally save you hundreds of thousands of dollars when you start figuring out how much you’ll save over a 20, 30, or 40 year period.
Actually no. Such actions by politicians are to raise gas prices and then raise other taxes to fund government lead scams for alternative energy which politicians get kickbacks from.
For example, look at all that tax money that went into “alternative energy” under Obama, with nothing in return for the people, as a few people got rich as the expense of everyone else.
Compared to all the states that border mine, we have a higher gas tax, higher car registration fees, and higher utility rates. A portion of those higher costs are due to taxes to fund various green initiatives. You drive from one state to the next though…there isn’t any extra green activity in my state. We don’t have more electric cars and charging stations, we don’t have more solar, we don’t have more windmills…its a joke. Its just handing more money over to the government for them to waste for us. Most of it just ends up going to companies who donated to campaigns and they do very little in exchange for that money. As much as liberals want to bitch about “greedy corporations” and “profits,” at least private companies and private investors can get s~~~ done rather than just waste money with very little to show for it. Primary example in the news recently of a government funded infrastructure project gone wrong…hows that high speed rail out in California doing? Billions down the drain, nobody held accountable, and nothing to show for it.
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