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Just taking the over 50 group;
– Men over 50 with a decent ability to retire, and a nice nest, opting out for all the reasons we talk about.
– Women over 50 not being able to opt out because they have not saved.
– The number of desperate women over 50 growing compared to the number of men over 50 still bothering to participate in the chase.
– Men over 50 will mostly just not give a f~~~, or even notice this s~~~.
– Women having to work forever or longer, men being able to enjoy live and chill. When they want to bang they go for a women under 50 or an ever cheaper and cheaper callgirl. Knowing full well not to commit a thing.
– Women over 50 will shack up with other women over 50 just to be able to live basic. They will hang in bingo halls and pedicure parlors and complain to each other wondering where have all the men have gone and wtf they did with their lives.
– Male and female life expectancies will balance out and female heart attack rates will rise.This all sounds good to me, I am looking forward to watching it as I travel the world enjoying my life.
Let the good times roll
It depends on how men withdraw from women. If men play it cool, women will continue being frustrated by men who aren’t making themselves available. But if men are vocal about withdrawing because of the me-too movement, women and their white knights will launch an epic shaming campaign.
But none of it is REAL. It’s all just mandated overhead.
Well, I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree. I gotta move on. It IS real. I can read employment figures in my country that give the EXACT hiring numbers by sex in fields like government, military, police and healthcare, and see how they have changed over time, keeping pace with official policy.
I can read performance reports in which organizations report progress against their own hiring quotas.
I don’t have to look hard to see there’s been been a cumulative shift in ACTUAL employment by sex in several fields where quotas are applied, this cumulatively numbers hundreds of thousands of jobs in my country.
I can read university graduation statistics by sex and degree, and observe how they have changed over time.
I recall specific cases in my own career where I was forced to apply preferential hiring in accordance with policy to fill positions in my group.
I recall specific cases in my own career where women were promoted over more more qualified men in order to fill a quota.
For these reasons, I can’t accept your statement that “none of it is real”.
I’ve acknowledged that sex quotas are probably less vigorously applied in the private sector because of market forces.
To conclude, as I’ve repeatedly said in this thread, as women find fewer men willing to subsidize them, I believe they will more loudly demand even greater preferential hiring into choice jobs. That’s my prediction.
Have a great evening.
I'm going my own way. Maybe I'll see you there.
Let’s say I pump and dump a chick. She isn’t going to call it rape, she will call my female boss or female HR and tell her what an ass I am. Raise, bonus, promotion, job, all gone.
The only somewhat safe way to pump and dump is to make sure the chick does not know your real name, where you work, what you drive, where you live or any other identifying info…this MGTOW safe sex
Women do not love men. Women only love what men can provide.
1. Men stop working
2. Women keep working
3. Women get more desperate for a partner
4. Men keep going their own way
5. Women start pursuing men
6. Women start fighting over men
7. Women start proposing to men
8. Men reject women left and right
9. Welfare state collapses
10. Women run out of money
11. Foreign refugees run wild and rape women
12. Western men smile at home with sexbot13. Civil War ensues.
6. Women will try to outlaw body cams or any other defensive tool men utilize.
It’s already illegal to record. You go to jail either way.
If men continue to walk away, I believe women ARE going to more loudly demand MORE preferential access to the best jobs — and I believe they will get it.
Unfortunately, History proves Handsome Vic is right.
But out in the real world if that overhead gets too burdensome, they shut down or move to less regulated markets.
I believe, these days, the company gets bailed out, and the women keep their jobs.
Or fail in their primary function; does anyone expect to win any wars with a quota filled military?
The purpose of war is not to be won. If someone won a war, the war would end, and the war is meant to go on indefinitely.
One look at the attendance at universities and you see the future. Women outnumber men at universities 60/40 and its still dropping. This is a disturbing trend. Women are the new men. Correct. That is what they are saying. “Its our turn ladies.” Look around the world is built, and men did it. Lets see how productive they are. Lets see how they fight wars, and fires, and build buildings, and ships, and superconductors, and design robots. Companies are going to hire women and they are in for a shock. Guess what, women dont think like men. Things are going to fail. And it will be mens fault. Look around, be honest, the women you work with, are they better more productive workers then the men? Not by a long shot.
They think “We Got This” its easy, look men did it(and we all know their idiots), we can do it. F~~~ing clueless.
The most important thing you can do is ask yourself, what do I really want out of life. Really think about it, and always be true to yourself. Then Do it.
The next step is women actively destroying men.
Let’s say I pump and dump a chick. She isn’t going to call it rape, she will call my female boss or female HR and tell her what an ass I am. Raise, bonus, promotion, job, all gone.
Good let them. The country our society the culture cannot run without men. So let them drive us all away from everything and see how it pans out for them.
In Very short order they will go from empowered CEO to selling their pussy for a can of Campbell’s soup.
Be professional be polite but always have a plan to kill everyone you meet.
But none of it is REAL. It’s all just mandated overhead.
Well, I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree. I gotta move on. It IS real. I can read employment figures in my country that give the EXACT hiring numbers by sex in fields like government, military, police and healthcare, and see how they have changed over time, keeping pace with official policy.
I can read performance reports in which organizations report progress against their own hiring quotas.
I don’t have to look hard to see there’s been been a cumulative shift in ACTUAL employment by sex in several fields where quotas are applied, this cumulatively numbers hundreds of thousands of jobs in my country.
I can read university graduation statistics by sex and degree, and observe how they have changed over time.
I recall specific cases in my own career where I was forced to apply preferential hiring in accordance with policy to fill positions in my group.
I recall specific cases in my own career where women were promoted over more more qualified men in order to fill a quota.
For these reasons, I can’t accept your statement that “none of it is real”.
I’ve acknowledged that sex quotas are probably less vigorously applied in the private sector because of market forces.
To conclude, as I’ve repeatedly said in this thread, as women find fewer men willing to subsidize them, I believe they will more loudly demand even greater preferential hiring into choice jobs. That’s my prediction.
Have a great evening.
Wrong. Not in the USA. Don’t know what Leftist paradise you live in but we’re not that far gone yet.
Be professional be polite but always have a plan to kill everyone you meet.
1. Men stop working
2. Women keep working
3. Women get more desperate for a partner
4. Men keep going their own way
5. Women start pursuing men
6. Women start fighting over men
7. Women start proposing to men
8. Men reject women left and right
9. Welfare state collapses
10. Women run out of money
11. Foreign refugees run wild and rape women
12. Western men smile at home with sexbot13. Civil War ensues.
6. Women will try to outlaw body cams or any other defensive tool men utilize.
It’s already illegal to record. You go to jail either way.
Wrong again. It’s perfectly legal to record anything anyone in public. In The US:)
Be professional be polite but always have a plan to kill everyone you meet.
One look at the attendance at universities and you see the future. Women outnumber men at universities 60/40 and its still dropping. This is a disturbing trend. Women are the new men. Correct. That is what they are saying. “Its our turn ladies.” Look around the world is built, and men did it. Lets see how productive they are. Lets see how they fight wars, and fires, and build buildings, and ships, and superconductors, and design robots. Companies are going to hire women and they are in for a shock. Guess what, women dont think like men. Things are going to fail. And it will be mens fault. Look around, be honest, the women you work with, are they better more productive workers then the men? Not by a long shot.
They think “We Got This” its easy, look men did it(and we all know their idiots), we can do it. F~~~ing clueless.
It will NEVER get that far between cause in the end it’s NEN that would have to allow it and when the chips fall we will not.
Be professional be polite but always have a plan to kill everyone you meet.
Am I the only one that thinks there isn’t going to be any serious consequences of this for the vast majority of individuals?
Every, single one of the “accused” is of celebrity status and a house hold name.
Most men are not affected at all, and won’t consider any of their actions as a result of this; ESPECIALLY blue pilled cucks, who are the one’s who need to learn the most from this.
Don’t get me wrong, I despise this #Metoo nonsense. Virtually all of the ‘victims’ experiences were 20+ years ago, and it was nothing more than whoring themselves out for a job (for most of them). You don’t have “meetings” in a man’s hotel room while he’s standing there half naked, or naked. These women are past their glory days and are crawling over one another, trying to take down men, and to try and get attention and be in the lime light.
Resident cynic.
Well, I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree. I gotta move on. It IS real. I can read employment figures in my country that give the EXACT hiring numbers by sex in fields like government, military, police and healthcare, and see how they have changed over time, keeping pace with official policy.
They’re real hires, but they’re not real jobs. You keep failing to understand the difference.
It’s like this: say a company has eight male employees, and they make 80 widgets a day needed to stay in business. Then the government mandates they have at least 20% of their workforce be female. Are they going to fire two men and hire two women to replace them? Of course not. Then they’d only be making 60 to maybe 70 widgets a day (if the women aren’t completely useless), which is not enough to keep the company afloat. So they keep their eight male employees, hire an additional two female employees just to meet the arbitrary quota, put them somewhere where hopefully they won’t cause too much damage, and hope to muddle through under this unnecessary burden.
They certainly don’t expect those women to perform the work of men, because women don’t.
I don’t have to look hard to see there’s been been a cumulative shift in ACTUAL employment by sex in several fields where quotas are applied, this cumulatively numbers hundreds of thousands of jobs in my country.
And productivity has suffered thereby. But then feminists never give a f~~~ about women actually being able to do the jobs, just that they get the jobs.
To conclude, as I’ve repeatedly said in this thread, as women find fewer men willing to subsidize them, I believe they will more loudly demand even greater preferential hiring into choice jobs. That’s my prediction.
But take it beyond a certain level of government mandated inefficiency, those employers will simply pull up stakes and leave, taking ALL the jobs with them.
Your entire argument is based on the premise that women can replace men in the workforce.
But they actually can’t. Sure they can take the jobs of men. They can take the positions of men. The can take the promotions of men. They can take the titles of men. They can take the paychecks of men.
BUT THEY CAN’T ACTUALLY DO THE WORK OF MEN.
Not really.
But someone has to actually do the actual work, and it is never actually women, no matter how many quotas or promotions they are given.
Your entire argument is based on the premise that women can replace men in the workforce.
No. I never made that argument. In terms of ability. Where did I make that argument?
I’m terms of numbers, yes. Women are displacing men in the workforce.
Sure they can take the jobs of men. They can take the positions of men. The can take the promotions of men. They can take the titles of men. They can take the paychecks of men.
Precisely. So you agree this is possible. I said where in the workforce I believe it is happening. And as I said, that is a problem for men.
Wrong. Not in the USA. Don’t know what Leftist paradise you live in but we’re not that far gone yet.
I don’t give a s~~~ about the USA. If you think it’s not of concern there, that’s up to you.
But take it beyond a certain level of government mandated inefficiency, those employers will simply pull up stakes and leave, taking ALL the jobs with them.
Can you name a major company that did this? Pulled up stakes and take ALL the jobs in order to avoid female hiring quotas? Or is this some hypothetical future you envision? Because right now — TODAY — quotas are growing and displace qualified men in the workforce.
And productivity has suffered thereby.
Hold up a minute. How can this be possible if Sidecar says that these quotas aren’t “Real”? And Judge Shredd says I’m flat out “wrong”. You can’t have it both ways.
I don’t understand why it’s so hard to believe the trend will continue — that women will lobby to expand quotas and be placed in more and more choice jobs.
I'm going my own way. Maybe I'll see you there.
I’m terms of numbers, yes. Women are displacing men in the workforce.
That’s like saying, in terms of numbers, fleas displace dogs in a kennel.
It doesn’t work that way.
Women don’t displace men in the workforce because women don’t actually do the work. Sure they take paychecks, but the actual work either continues to be done by men, or the actual work goes elsewhere.
I don’t give a s~~~ about the USA. If you think it’s not of concern there, that’s up to you.
Learn to work out who you’re replying to before replying.
Can you name a major company that did this? Pulled up stakes and take ALL the jobs in order to avoid female hiring quotas?
How many iPhones are manufactured in the USA or EU? How many televisions?
Jobs go to where labor is cheapest and most productive. And quotas are nothing more than a way of making labor more expensive and less productive.
I don’t understand why it’s so hard to believe the trend will continue — that women will lobby to expand quotas and be placed in more and more choice jobs.
Do you even begin to understand what “unsustainable” means?
Women don’t displace men in the workforce because women don’t actually do the work.
Well, I pointed out some places where statistics can be found which indicate this is indeed happening in certain sectors.
Mind you, these sources were rudely dismissed as “wrong” because they arent from the USA.
Perhaps you can point to some equivalent sources of information to bolster your argument?
Learn to work out who you’re replying to before replying.
I don’t take kindly to be called a liar regarding my own work experiences. Or that my observations are “wrong” because they come from outside the USA. If anyone thinks they get a pass on this with me because they are American, they are mistaken.
How many iPhones are manufactured in the USA or EU? How many televisions?
Jobs go to where labor is cheapest and most productive. And quotas are nothing more than a way of making labor more expensive and less productive.
That doesn’t answer my question. The assertion was that organizations will close up shop and move ALL jobs to more favorable jurisdictions to escape quotas. I asked: name a company that has done so?
You’ve given no information that it’s not mostly women on these assembly lines because they can be hired for less.
Maybe you can prove with your example that overseas and absent regulation, these lines are comparatively male?Do you even begin to understand what “unsustainable” means?
Of course I do. You seem to think that I can’t recognize the adverse consequence of quotas. Or I’ve argued that, absent controls, they are infinitely sustainable, or somehow desirable. Nope. I’ve said that:
-they exist;
-they have a measurable impact in displacing men in some sectors (pointing to where supporting info can be found);
– I predict that women will increase the pressure for more quotas in choice jobs.I'm going my own way. Maybe I'll see you there.
Data Shows Millennial Women Are Dominating the Current Job Market
https://www.inc.com/the-fiscal-times/millennial-women-dominate-job-market-men-overshadowed.html
I'm going my own way. Maybe I'll see you there.
Every, single one of the “accused” is of celebrity status and a house hold name.
Agreed, this isn’t going to become a witch hunt targeting average Joes in the way it has targeted these celebrity men. But that doesn’t seem to be the goal.
One goal, which is pretty much a stated goal, is to create a culture in which women must be believed. This is really about preference. They want so much preference that the presumption of innocence doesn’t apply to any man they accuse of something.
Another obvious goal is to advance the idea that sexual predation is synonymous with the male condition.
Despite their bad-ass posturing, they also want to set themselves up as eternal victims in need of ever-increasing protection. This is probably their most important goal.
The consequences for men will be an even worse presumption of guilt in the face of a female accuser, a presumption of shame and guilt in general for being men, and boys in school being indoctrinated to see themselves in terms of these high-profile accusations.
Eventually, like in all other societies in the world, world gov’t baby, that the women will have to pay a dowry to get married.
Since our women of the never ending c~~~ will be working then they could just add the price of the dowry in their student loans.
I think that instead of 2 cows and 4 goats I think that a brand new luxury car would be in order. The cost could be on a sliding scale like wedding rings are today. Say 4 months of salary. For your average cubical slave you have maybe 60K per year at 5K per month so that’s 5 x 4 = $20,000.00 for a low paid worker and 40,000.00 if she makes 120K.
Student loans? They’ll be the new lepers in society. I have two nieces. One has 120K in debt as a masters in architecture and is a waitress and the other owes 60K and spoons food into a plate at a drug rehab center.
My family knows they’re unmarriagable due to their excessive student loan debt.
A woman has to have a dowry and a job or there will be no point in taking the risk of talking to them and then you would need a witness in the form of a chaperone.
#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.
I think we will be needing to expand the seating in the MGTOW section.
Made me laugh, but it is true.
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