OPEN question to my MGTOW brothers

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

Sometimes I’m not to quick on the uptake and I have a situation I would like you guys to review and provide a theory to explain this:

I have a friend whom I have known for 30 years. He is a PUA, always been and proud of it. Thats fine. He’s been divorced twice but even so he always has a string of three or four women in tow, again fine with me if thats his thing. (Somehow he has never been sperm-jacked)

But here is the question: He doesn’t spend money on these bitches—but THEY spend money on him. In the last seven years various women have bought him three brand new guns. (He’s a gun guy too)
The first couple were in the $350-$450 range but one of his latest babe just bought him a new Ruger SR1911—even used they are worth $700-$800. HOW IS THIS HAPPENING?

I’ve asked him and all he does is just chuckle and tell me I’m clueless. He has also admitted they (his female posse) buy him all kinds of things–the guns are just the upper end of the money scale.

HOW HOW HOW? I don’t get it. (and no he isn’t some young guy, he is nearly my age)

[007 (Reborn)Participant 1672]

He dates multiple women at a time. They know this and are trying to buy his attention/affection. They think that buying him a gun is an investment that will ensure he will “choose” them over the other girls.

I had a friend that did this too.

Pursuing Happiness and Freedom.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22526]

PistolPete wrote:

HOW HOW HOW? I don’t get it. (and no he isn’t some young guy, he is nearly my age)

I am willing to guess it is like the Nigerian scam. Spend money on the false promise of a fortune.

Same principle. Each woman thinks if she spends a little for your friend, he will give them a ring and a marriage to her, which is not going to happen.

[Anonymous 43]

Women loooooooove to give presents.

[OgreParticipant 5863]

He has learned and excelled at playing their game.

Sleep with dogs and you’re going get fleas though. You can’t really say he’s gone unscathed. If he’s still got a soul it’s probably pretty tattered.

Personally I wouldn’t want to trade with him. It sounds like your friend is a Mega-Chad.

I failed to realize in my youth that I was the prize. I was going to work. I was going to earn. Little did I realize that due to feminism, that no longer meant I had to share. Road soon, Desert after.

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

Ogre wrote:

It sounds like your friend is a Mega-Chad.

Yes this is true. As soon as one of the bitches gets too “clingy” in his words she’s gone and replaced by someone else. And some are married. Even so–women like to spend money on themselves and spend other people’s money so that is why I’m so mystified.

[MonkeyMindParticipant 5340]

The simple answer would be that he’s a chad.

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[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

PistolPete wrote:

But here is the question: He doesn’t spend money on these bitches—but THEY spend money on him. In the last seven years various women have bought him three brand new guns. (He’s a gun guy too)
The first couple were in the $350-$450 range but one of his latest babe just bought him a new Ruger SR1911—even used they are worth $700-$800. HOW IS THIS HAPPENING?

Ironic that the Sandman just posted this for Christmas. He tells it pretty good..

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[Rolling Tin FistParticipant 484]

Yeah, I’ve been blessed with one of those types of women back when I was single.

It has to do (in my experience) with a certain type of woman AND the man in question has told them nothing is happening in regards to a long term commitment. And the man is firm on this.

So the woman gives it (the pussy cat) up in hopes of changing the man’s mind, but the man is steadfast. This messes with the woman’s ego; especially if she’s post The Wall. With no recourse apart from moving on, the woman uses her love language (I.e. cash and prizes) to try to win the man over.

In my case, the woman was married (I found out after the fact). I got shirts, silk pajamas, and the like. She was even planning to get me a watch like she got her husband. Your buddy should make sure he doesn’t get sperm jacked though. I was lucky to dodge the bullet, in the daftness of my late 20s

"Love is the delusion that one woman differs from another" - H. L. Mencken

[Freeman_KParticipant 3524]

He has mastered the dread game.

The choices we make, not the chances we take, determine our destiny

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

He has such a high SMV, the females are trying to trap him. Attention, sex, gifts, each female is trying to out do the other females to trap him.

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[Anonymous 42]

Whatever they give him it’s not worth it, he just hasn’t had a nuclear meltdown event… yet…

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

Thanks Frostbyte—Sandman is indeed the oracle of bitch knowledge! Very informative I would never have guessed. And this makes Tower’s comment even more important. No he hasn’t had the meltdown yet. But I suspect on day his luck is going to run out and he isn’t going to pay up on some crazy c~~~ and then the s~~~ will hit the fan. Many thanks guys!

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

everything is upside down in the current day and age

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[Anonymous 42]

PistolPete wrote:

But I suspect on day his luck is going to run out and he isn’t going to pay up on some crazy c~~~ and then the s~~~ will hit the fan.

One thing I learned is a man never knows the mega-tonnage, nor where, or when the event will take place, I’ve seen mushroom clouds 30+ years after a marriage.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

PistolPete wrote:

He’s been divorced twice. He is a PUA, always been and proud of it.

And not a very good one, if he couldn’t even “game” either wife.

Checkmate.

PistolPete wrote:

And all he does is just chuckle and tell me I’m clueless

At least you’re not divorced. Twice. He didn’t marry either of them to get divorced.
( So not so clueless after all )

This is just one example of when women want to be with you, there is no need to wine and dine them – or marry them. A career broad / over 40 is not challenge or measure of his “skill” – and it’s not a pick-up art form.

Are you prepared to date Stiffler’s Moms ? (America Pie)
One drink she’s off to the races. Easier to make than toast.

Take a look at this dinner whore. Dates guys she doesn’t even like or care about for personal gain. Think she’ll be doing the same at 35 or 40? That’s your “PUA” buddy in reverse.

“Nice Guys” finish last is an expression for a reason. Every bulls~~~ “nice” thing you do for a woman over 30 is like throwing food to the starving.

—

Did you ever see “True Lies”? Bill Paxton is a kind of PUA / used car salesman who had bored post-wall housewives all figured out and educated Arnold on his clever strategy of playing out a fantasy for them. He pretended to be a spy, and they lap it up. He behaved like Arnold was “clueless” too. When Arnold gets even, Paxton wets himself and refers to himself as “navel lint”.

If you’re prepared to date older / divorced women with poofy lips and a Mercedes she got in a divorce settlement, then knock yourself out. Look for the kind who’s face is pulled so tight, every time she crosses her legs, her mouth snaps open. She’ll buy you anything.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 25]

PistolPete wrote:

HOW IS THIS HAPPENING?

Women are creatures of emotion. If a guy knows how to make them experience pleasurable feelings just from talking to them and telling them stories and stuff he will stand out from other guys and they will buy him stuff.

Doesn’t make them any less crazy or any less of a pain in the ass though. I’ve been with women who bought me stuff and paid for things it’s just not worth the hassle. They still regard the man as an investment, they do it in hope they will get more back at a future date. A good example would be a trainee doctor who doesn’t have much money now and is still studying, the woman will buy him stuff in the expectation she will be rewarded when he qualifies and starts earning lots of money.

[TaxGuyParticipant]

Narcissists have a way of attracting people with low self esteem. And then they milk them dry. It doesn’t matter if the narcissist is a man or a woman. People that let their self esteem be defined by who they are with get desperate to keep that person. Which is ironic because it isn’t SELF esteem if it comes from someone else.

The low self esteem person is the moth and the narcissist is the light. I don’t know why it works that way, but I’ve seen it too many times to deny that it doesn’t happen.

Order the good wine

[MeisterParticipant 2093]

Ogre wrote:

He has learned and excelled at playing their game.

Sleep with dogs and you’re going get fleas though. You can’t really say he’s gone unscathed. If he’s still got a soul it’s probably pretty tattered.

Personally I wouldn’t want to trade with him. It sounds like your friend is a Mega-Chad.

^This

Nothing good ever happens to PUAs.

And yes, women love to give presents.

They think he’s the big prize and they are woeing him.

Monk

[experiencedParticipant]

PistolPete wrote:

Sometimes I’m not to quick on the uptake and I have a situation I would like you guys to review and provide a theory to explain this:

I have a friend whom I have known for 30 years. He is a PUA, always been and proud of it. Thats fine. He’s been divorced twice but even so he always has a string of three or four women in tow, again fine with me if thats his thing. (Somehow he has never been sperm-jacked)

But here is the question: He doesn’t spend money on these bitches—but THEY spend money on him. In the last seven years various women have bought him three brand new guns. (He’s a gun guy too)
The first couple were in the $350-$450 range but one of his latest babe just bought him a new Ruger SR1911—even used they are worth $700-$800. HOW IS THIS HAPPENING?

I’ve asked him and all he does is just chuckle and tell me I’m clueless. He has also admitted they (his female posse) buy him all kinds of things–the guns are just the upper end of the money scale.

HOW HOW HOW? I don’t get it. (and no he isn’t some young guy, he is nearly my age)

If this guy were a friend, he would tell you how to do it. IMO he sounds like an asshole. If you were good at woodworking and a friend asked you how you did it, you’d tell him – to not tell him would define you as an asshole.
The only reason guys here won’t give info out in this regard is because they KNOW it’s a cruelly rigged game. The house always wins.
If you want to Objectively / Dispassionately / rigorously study PUA rules and techniques, I’m certain that you’d “win”. Just remember, it’s like winning a cabin on the Titanic.

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

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