One of the other border crisis

[743 roadmasterParticipant]

What gets me about most of the problem here is the people fleeing are mostly the nuts who voted for the current manure pile at head of state.
All of this could be a tipping point and destabilize every other country in central and south, leading to an even larger crisis at the Mexican border. No country in the region has the ability to absorb half a million people.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/19/fleeing-venezuelans-suspicion-hostility-migration-crisis-ecuador

The UN says 2.3 million people have left Venezuela since 2015, 1.3 million of them malnourished

http://www.france24.com/en/20180819-brazil-sends-troops-after-clashes-venezuela-border

Brazil sends troops after clashes at Venezuela border

https://www.bloombergquint.com/global-economics/2018/08/19/venezuela-s-95-devaluation-adds-to-turmoil-after-drone-attack#gs.IywG49c

Venezuela Adds to Chaos With One of Biggest Currency Devaluations Ever

https://www.bloombergquint.com/politics/2018/08/20/argentina-to-file-case-against-venezuela-at-hague-macri-says#gs.6f_N3As

Argentina to File Case Against Venezuela at Hague

mgtow is its own worst enemy- https://www.campusreform.org/

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

Great.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22521]

The really interesting part is when (not if) the U.S. collapses. All welfare checks stop, and the jobs stop. No more money being sent back to latin america. On top of this, if civil war breaks out in the U.S. there is no way the Mexican and Canadian military will have the forces to keep the borders closed with hundreds of thousands to millions of (likely armed) U.S. citizens trying to flee the conflict, along with the tens of millions of latin americans trying to return to their home countries.

The term “clusterf~~~” would not do justice for such a situation.

[Knarley BobParticipant 2219]

Too bad the Panama canal can’t be dug deeper so South America snaps off and goes adrift.
The wall should be fitted with gun towers and a mine field. The Rio Grande should be stocked with Nile & Salt water crocs.

OATHKEEPERS, not on our watch. MOLON LABE

[JustAnotherGuyParticipant]

Remember, there are Brazilian brothels where they brag about how many accredited, post-grad and PhD women they have. Anybody who could have left Venezuela did so a year ago. The degree of human suffering still hasn’t peaked.

And as Faust has pointed out, when the US fails (which it will at current trajectory if we don’t kill the 60% of the “budget” going to Medicare and Social Security 10 years ago), we will make Venezuela look like a day at the beach in Ibiza. Practically nobody in Venezuela is armed.

Cupcakes are Cold. MGTOW is Absolute Zero.
“Let us wait a little; when your enemy is executing a false movement, never interrupt him” –Napoleon Bonaparte, 1805

[narwhalParticipant]

Faust For Science wrote:

The really interesting part is when (not if) the U.S. collapses. All welfare checks stop, and the jobs stop. No more money being sent back to latin america. On top of this, if civil war breaks out in the U.S. there is no way the Mexican and Canadian military will have the forces to keep the borders closed with hundreds of thousands to millions of (likely armed) U.S. citizens trying to flee the conflict, along with the tens of millions of latin americans trying to return to their home countries.
The term “clusterf~~~” would not do justice for such a situation.

If the US collapses or has a civil war, I don’t think there will really be a mass of refugees. Perhaps some in the north will head to Canada, but I doubt there are many who thinks Mexico would a do a damn thing for them. I’d honestly expect China and/or Russia to swoop in some sort of savior role that involves taking at least of land, resources, and people under a puppet government.

Ok. Then do it.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22521]

JustAnotherGuy wrote:

And as Faust has pointed out, when the US fails (which it will at current trajectory if we don’t kill the 60% of the “budget” going to Medicare and Social Security 10 years ago), we will make Venezuela look like a day at the beach in Ibiza. Practically nobody in Venezuela is armed.

I look at the Trump Administration as a reprieve, but when the collapse happens, this s~~~show could go bad in so many ways it is hard to guess how the situation will play out.

A person could debate that President Trump is trying to stop the rest of the world from taking wealth from the U.S., so when the U.S. does collapses, the U.S. does not take the rest of the world with it.

narwhal wrote:

If the US collapses or has a civil war, I don’t think there will really be a mass of refugees. Perhaps some in the north will head to Canada, but I doubt there are many who thinks Mexico would a do a damn thing for them. I’d honestly expect China and/or Russia to swoop in some sort of savior role that involves taking at least of land, resources, and people under a puppet government.

Mexicans are very strange when is comes to the concept of “nationalism”. Many Mexicans are not interested in bettering their nation as a whole, but it is their nation and they will fight an foreign power whom openly invades Mexico.

Though, there are groups of Mexicans in small towns whom have seized power from both the cartels and the Mexican government. The cartels and Mexican government ignore such situations for the most part because it is an embarrassment for both the groups, the locals whom rebelled downplay the situation to not aggravate the cartels or Mexican government, and Mexico could go pear-shape is the cartels or Mexican government did a massive crackdown on such groups of people.

[SwimcatParticipant 3589]

The 2020 election will see the worst violence since 1860.

[JustAnotherGuyParticipant]

Swimcat wrote:

The 2020 election will see the worst violence since 1860.

Absolutely. We’ll yearn for the days when innocent guys were just getting brained with a bike lock.

Cupcakes are Cold. MGTOW is Absolute Zero.
“Let us wait a little; when your enemy is executing a false movement, never interrupt him” –Napoleon Bonaparte, 1805

[The man in the mountainParticipant 4102]

Very nice post but i will correct a few things in it.

“What gets me about most of the problem here is the people fleeing are mostly the nuts who voted for the current manure pile at head of state.”

No one voted for Maduro, he was the vice president and took over power after Chavez died, when Chavez died yes the writing was already on the wall that Venezuela was heading for a collapse, but no one heard the whistles going off. Venezuela has seen increased pressure from the West because Maduro continued the same policies of late Chavez of closing in with China and Russia while defying the U.S. and the western powers, Maduro is playing the same book but the book no longer works when you have an entire hemisphere against you, also the united states seized property and wealth from Venezuelan officials including late Chavez and hes family, they pretty much took hes house that was in Miami.

Now The lovely part of all of this is that The U.S. by applying strict sanctions has repeated exactly what happened in Cuba and we are only seeing the start of it, This was never about Democrats vs Reps, this was Americans standing up against the welfare state and the government overreach, now immigration from Venezuela to the U.S. is up by 150%, there are plenty of Cuban nationals there already and that is why Obama turned off “the wet foot dry foot” policy.

The government takes in more debt, gives it to the businesses that are taking in records amounts of cheap debt, said businesses that are more like monopolies now then create more jobs with cheap money, from those jobs not all will get filled by Americans so they gotta bring refugees and migrants from every corner of the world the U.S. starts s~~~ in.

This eventually drives up prices of key things like education, property and will increase taxation in the long run, Americans are being choked out in their very own homeland and i don’t think Trump will save the country since he has the government and the deep state up hes eyeb~~~~.

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