I think we’ve all seen the pattern of men who wake up to the red pill, come on the forums detailing divorce rape or a bad relations~~~ with some borderline/narcissist or a string of em.I
They imbibe the wisdom then disappear for six months once they meet their next nawalt. Hell I’ve done it too.
It’s that sense of knowing all the pitfalls yet being tempted back occasionally, also whilst knowing being MGTOW ensu res all such interactions have a shelf life. At some point the cycle is broken.
At 43 it’s less of a temptation, maybe at 53 it will be gone entirely. I don’t know if this means being purple pilled. There is still the urge to f~~~ and deal with them on my own terms.
I think monk probably is the best way but not quite ready.
Never got married or cohabited. That was never a temptation, liked my own freedom and personal space too much.
Like this place. Hard to share these ideas with the blue pillers that most men are.
I am getting closer to that number, and while not gone entirely, it is much less … but still there.
Men are just wired that way and women exploit that drive to their maximum advantage. “The man’s innate desire to possess a female, to have his own little sex doll and intimate companion, is his biggest vulnerability. A female will use this weakness to lead him into a trap and destroy him.”
Consequently, it’s best just to go Monk — many here are. But there are others here who play with female fire and seem to manage it. You will need to decide how you want to go about it. I know from experience that I cannot interact with women on a personal or intimate level.
Since nowadays women have become such entitled, phone-addicted, bitchy, overweight slores they have made it a lot easier not to be tempted.
"You don't know a woman till you have met her in divorce court."
Listen man, just enjoy it while you can and take all the precautions. Just remember, women are happier being used in single servings.
Expecting a NAWALT is stupid. All women are like that bro. So is it that we are f~~~ed up, or they? Popular opinion is that they are. We have tons of evidence that points out to that.
However, once you go MGTOW, you start to see women in a different light. That mask they wear starts to come lose.
See everyone has their hangups and faults. That’s not a problem. But see, we did not make the rules. They did.
In fact, all of use would be quite happy with a women if IF we had a something like the structure of a Muslim country. Thing is, women are not really great in the long term. See, the more you give women, the more rotten they get. And that is the thing that has died about female culture. They threw away their part of the social contract so to speak.
Not only that, but lets be honest here. It was never about you in the first place. In fact, if a women knew there were other men that valued her, or even that their was not impending doom right around the corner at every turn, she will grow to resent you and just being with you.
In fact, the Hive has made it clear to women that she will always get some other mans attention. Problem is, she does not understand all the things she gets by loving a man.
So the ruse falls away quick in the long term.
Just like in Muslim Culture, you are out the second he says GO! This is also controlled by family, society and so forth. But here? If she goes, she takes all your s~~~ with you. THat’s sounds all good and fair till you understand its HER that makes that decision. And it can be pulled at any time.
Like it or not, women do not have the hard mental hook that men have. Men don’t really recover from a loss of an intimate partner the same way women do. It hurts. Women just f~~~ it out of their system. That’s why your buddy will tell you to go smash some new pussy. Not so easy for a man really. It covers up the pain for a bit. But in the end, you may just end up more broken.
So what do you have left? Well, you can treat her as a Paid whore. And never get attached. That helps. It also keeps the relationship going. Weird but true.
So here is women’s Predicament. When a Man falls in love with a women, the chances of that happening again like that are slim to none. Its never going to be the way it was for her. No kidding. SO she is going to rack up the miles in hopes that she gets the same feeling again. She can do this with the aid of drugs too. That why those pills women take today really f~~~ them up in the head.
But alas, you end up being the one that gets the torment till you find out why it all happens. And when you do, you can at least understand what is going on.
So your second time around is always going to find fault. See, your heart never really heals. So your mind is always going to find faults faster. And this has a cascading effect. It simply is a part of the pair bonding hormone that just seems to wear off over time.
THe truth is, after the first real heartbreak, men don’t really recover. You will find new things to do, but really, you are a changed man.
But you will still have hopes and dreams for that chance to feel that way again. But sadly, that idea in your head is forever lost. Sure, there are some chances that it may happen again. But its like winning the lottery.
So as you feel that you still want women. You do. You always will. But as they get older, the cracks show. These single women are damaged goods bro. Spoilt as they use to say. And there just is not much left to say about that.
Like it or not, there are real consequences for not pair bonding. In fact, their is a good reason why Parents arrange marriages. Problem, is, women are no longer fresh out of the box so to speak. And so that goes out the window.
Today, can you find love? Maybe in Japan. But bro, it’s no picnic. Its hell. The modern world is not really made with relationships in mind. In fact, its hell. You have women each and every day trying to tear apart your life. And Men that seek to destroy what good thing you have they can not get themselves. Usually a heart broken man before like DDJ was, and so he went of slumming with other dudes wives to cover up his own pain.
And let me tell ya, TFM tried and tried and tried. Like it or not we are all wanting someone we can actually be vulnerable with. But as soon as you do, they see you as weak. F~~~ me RIGHT???
That’s why so many men simply enjoy taking a vacation, meeting some women, and enjoying the time for what it is.
Like it or not, as sad as it is, if your SOCIETY that you live in does not PROMOTE and DEFEND families? You are F~~~ED!
There is ONE place that I think does this being a “white” nation. And they are having all sorts of s~~~ trying to get the intuitive off the ground.
In the meantime, Enjoy September…until it ends.
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There’s a lot of things I miss about not having a women in my life. Besides the sex, I miss not having someone to go places with. My wife and I would go to plays, the symphony, and nice restaurants. I miss those things. When I have dinner at the country club I sit alone at the bar, unless one of my friends shows up and invites me to sit him and his wife. Ball games, I can usually find another guy to go or take my son, but it’s not the same. When I’m on the road in my camper then I’m truly alone and it gets boring. Trust me, I could have a women in my bed every night. I could be banging single mothers younger than my daughters. I could afford a sugar baby mistress and still have plenty of money to put away. But, the risk makes my blood run cold. The one phone call, and the threat of lawsuits makes me turn away from any pretty face that smiles at me. I’ve never had any legal trouble in my life and I don’t want to start now.
I recently went to Ireland and I met this babe in a pub. We had a ball drinking beer and singing along with the music. She’s a nurse, never married, about 40, cute as a button. Catholic like me. Since I’ve been back I’ve talked to her on Facebook. I know she see’s me as a rich American who can give her an easy life and a good inheritance. I’m tempted as hell to go online and buy her a plane ticket, or go back myself. But then there’s that cold dread. What would happen in the long run.
And that’s the catch. Cuz in the long run they all turn into demanding, nagging bitches who have an axe hanging over your head.
Sure, women can be enjoyable to hang out with…at first. Initially they have no complaints or demands and can be lots of fun. Heck, early on they will even offer to pay for a date or drinks.
But as time goes on they will expect you to keep upping the game with entertainment and spending. Then the complaints begin about not wanting to do this or that. Or they don’t know where they want eat “but anything, you choose…. No, not there!”
The offers to pay will end and the requests for expensive nights out, gifts and vacations begin.
If you acquiesce the demands become larger and more frequent while the “benefits” become fewer and fewer.
Soon it no longer is fun to go out because all she does is yap non-stop about her feelz/drama and looks constantly at her phone.
Happens eventually with every phucking relationship.
"You don't know a woman till you have met her in divorce court."
At 43 it’s less of a temptation, maybe at 53 it will be gone entirely.
Im not so enthralled with them as I once was because, you start to see a pattern by the time youre 30, that women have no brains and will turn on you in an instant. This makes the passage of time with them tedious as they blather on and you have to listen to every retarded thing that pops into her head. Seriously, its a CHORE to try and spend time with 99% of women. Is it just me?! Is it just my negative attitude?
Now. After 6 years of an impressive amount of MGTOW content being stuffed into my brain, and with my increasingly aging “bad” attitude, I simply dont give a fvck what women think, what they want, how to get in their pants etc… Yall know that I asked out an attractive acquaintance the other day, a hot 24 year old waitress. I came up 0 and 1, nothing. Im not unattractive etc… I spent 6 years ghosting but Im convinced that some men like me, have a cerebral type of personality and such a low tolerance clearance (for women’s ‘mannerisms’) that the rather easy checklist of activities you do to get a woman in bed, this list is unacceptable to me and I just say fvck them and go my own way. Its not Rejection from them, its seriously my “bad” attitude that prevents me from caring. Im NOT going to chase some airhead girl around, texting her and pretending to be interested in the elementary things that pop into her head.
Someone even said it here, the sex scene has dried up, whereas last year he had three lays, this year no prospects… He is right, SOMETHING HAS CHANGED on top of the fact that MOST OF US HERE, just cant be bothered with making it a priority to have a woman in our lives. The allure of a woman, beyond the sex appeal is entirely evaporated. Shouldnt THEY be chasing US?
Im lucky to be entering another period of not giving a flying sh!t about getting laid. Guess what has been consuming my focus the last few days. A new bike trail opened up in Dallas and a bicycle segment on the Strava App shows the Best Times by misc. strangers who have ventured down it. I was able to achieve KOM (King of the Mountain) Best Time on a ride I had. I was #1 !
Then some alpha looking dude (judging from his profile pic, tall blond blue eyed alpha…) …he beat my time by a whole minute. I was pi55ed. It consumed me for 48 hours until I went back out there and literally tied his time by sheer coincidence, a 10 mile ride tied down to the last second. Now we are both listed as #1 KOM. LOL.
This male spirit of competition and him and I high-fiving each other on a simple App has been more fulfilling than aimless and frustrating interactions with a female that usually do not end in intimacy. I will PASS on women and continue in other more fulfilling endeavors. I do not need their games or their drama or their mundanity, doin just fine!
As far as nostalgia for places to go with a female, like dinner and symphony. Its time to embrace the lone wolf role or find male companions to do that stuff with. Thats just me. Seems like you’re remembering the good times you had with “her” … luckily I never had any times with womens so I have nothing to miss… Im so young that they had already invented smart phones by the time I had gained enough SMV to attract women.
There’s a lot of things I miss about not having a women in my life. Besides the sex, I miss not having someone to go places with.
G@y guys have f@g-hags for this reason; they can be lots of fun when you take sex out of the equation. And the beauty part of having f@g-hags is that there’s no pretense whatsoever that the relationship is something it’s not. And if she starts acting squirrelly, she’s gone just like that. Here’s where str8 guys can learn a thing or two from their g@y counterparts – as I think a lot of men here have figured out – keep relations with women non-committal and based and the social value they deliver, and DON’T accept any sh!tty behavior. Women are options, not necessities.
Hey EG, for the uneducated (like me), what exactly is a f@g-hag?
Well, CPT Obvious, I’m glad you asked. Per Urban Dictonary:
“Women who cling to gay men. Often seen around groups of gay men, they use the insulating effect to enjoy a night on the town without being assaulted by straight men. Also one who clings to a gay guy and reports to be his “bff”.”
I feel like I disagree bro. Who is orbiting who? These gay dudes are loitering around these women, acting in the capacity of emotional pillow cushion, favor/errand boy, and last option for Friday night company…
Fa*g Hag is sort of misleading but I guess it could be true in some instances, like FEMCELS probably orbit gay dudes for validation.
But the opposite is the general rule that I see, which is Gay Dudes sometimes hovering in the shadow of these loud mouthed, weakly confident females who need a male ear drum to constantly nod approval… His status in the relationship is apparent when he starts to talk, his sentences are cut short by her next airheaded quip. She runs over his speaking. And the Gay dude is effeminate and trying to “fit in” and mimic female memes, that he surrenders to her.
Not putting down the Lads but they are second chair to these women, sort of like chumpy boys that let their girlfriends lecture them and then always ‘back down’ and yield to her. Who wears the pants in these pairings? Often its the GIRL. And this is precisely why so many men are single these days. Women are too familiar with getting handed that 1st chair role.
In fact, I think women now think its Chivalrous and appropriate for all men to just be a doormat in conversations. They cant handle a man NOT listening to her mundane quips. They cant handle a man saying “you adhere to my schedule, not me to yours.” They cant handle “No” for an answer.
So when kunts cant always get their way, they instead surround themselves with beings that bend to their will, which they can exert faux authority over; pets, children, gay men and simps.
Well, CPT Obvious, I’m glad you asked. Per Urban Dictonary:
“Women who cling to gay men. Often seen around groups of gay men, they use the insulating effect to enjoy a night on the town without being assaulted by straight men. Also one who clings to a gay guy and reports to be his “bff”.”
In other words: orbiters who are female.
Oh.. So a parasite for g@y MEN then. I so adore how that “interpretation” uses the word “assaulted” in place of “approached”. How utterly quaint and predictable.
IMHO A f@ghag is a woman so toxic that members of her own gender and heterosexual men can not stand to be associated with or in the company of, due to the toxicity of her persona that she also has no recourse BUT to befriend g@y men (as in effeminate boys trying to be girls, not g@y MEN) in the hope of any type of “group acceptance”.
I’m fairly certain that even g@y men also have a limit to how much use and abuse they will take or tolerate at the hands/whims of a woman.
There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it
So when kunts cant always get their way, they instead surround themselves with beings that bend to their will, which they can exert faux authority over; pets, children, gay men and simps.
Annd the winner today is this^^^
There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it
Many men, gay or not, will yield the floor in a conversation, not out of being effeminate, (because he is nothing of the sort usually) but because he is simply non confrontational. These are the truly evasive personality types, the quiet aloof cerebral type. The Metas? When they walk, they walk around other people, not out of respect or subtle groveling, but because they are like water around a rock.
These Quiet, hyper-alert types are not orbiters. They are just in their own world and the fastest way to their objective is around or over you, non-interaction. I think more and more men are falling into this subset, some gay, some straight, neither Alpha or Beta. They do not bend to a Kunt’s objectives so you cant call them Betas. But they do not lead the pack or effortlessly gain females like Alphas either. They are their own breed.
I’ve been monk for over two years. Is it for life? Doubt it. Eventually I will shag one in my travels. It’s how I handle the morning after that will be the test for my red pill resolve. Will I go back to monk? Will I test the waters again? Will that one night of fun turn into more? Will I repeat past mistakes? But for now I’m happy with monk. My life is full of honest relationships. Why change that?
Galatians 5:1 (KJV) Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
I’m fairly certain that even g@y men also have a limit to how much use and abuse they will take or tolerate at the hands/whims of a woman.
Right. There is a class of gay men that are Masculine as fvck and/or cerebrel and unassumingly gay (often you cant tell). These men are right to hang around MGTOW because they GET IT, just like us, how BAD women really are.
The male mind is often too complex to give audience to the obnoxious, oxygen-hogging women today. These types of men just avoid women at all costs. LOL
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