Not seeking acceptance or approval (MGTOW attribute?)

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

I am not about to project what MGTOW is or is not, just give my thoughts here.  What I write here I consider to be aspects of MGTOW, but maybe others won’t agree, so feel free to disagree.  I see this as part of going one’s own way.  And it is particularly true regarding women.

What I am not talking about in the topic title is:

* Asking permission for something that is not yours. If someone has property one would expect to ask first.  Yes, people have their own things, and it pays to respect what rightfully belongs to someone.

* Having humility and making adjustments based on receiving new information from others.  I could be wrong on something, so it is good to correct.

* Getting advice from an expert, or a trainer, and having them give feedback.  This relates to the last one.  I have to respect the person, and having acceptance of what I do, and approval, can be useful. I choose to be in such a relationship with them, for my own benefit.

* Having manners, and even obeying the law.  I don’t need to try to be a rebel pointlessly because I want to prove something to someone, and be seen as cool because I can be a rebel.

* In a case where work, where I get paid, and have expectations, or have a customer, I need to meet their demands.  There is a power difference. I can try to work on getting better here, as there are consequences.

Ok, that is not what I mean.  What I do mean by the subject is that I don’t care to worry about being accepted by any human being or organization.  Rejection by people can hurt, but I don’t see their approval.  I am not out here to try to win favor.  I am out here to find the best way that works for me, and fits me and do that.  If people don’t like it, tough.  I don’t do this then show myself as a cool rebel, and try to win favor, by being hipster.  I just do what I need it.  And with this, I am not here to try to win acceptance or approval be women.  If something is stupid, I am not doing it.   I am just not going to be so mentally weak and lonely that I need to go along with crowds and fit in.

A big reason I say this here is that people have their own way to go, and my way is not theirs.  If I try to fit with what they have, and win approval to fit in, and get a “gold star”, they have an agenda that will undermine my way.  So, I don’t seek their acceptance or approval, and I don’t worry about it.

That is my take.  Feel free to share your thoughts here.  I feel I am on target, but do welcome feedback.  Feel free to reject totally if you like.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

Living in your own head and kicking others out who do not pay rent is a good thing. No, I do not scamper off to Mom To ask permission. Often I sit at the bar late at night with a frw book lights and mu computer books. The bar noise keeps me up. I am often approached on what I am working on. I never tell now. I Just say lesrning new things. Then they go away.

Ditto that Batcave.

Mgtow exclusion zone 😊

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

Living in your own head and kicking others out who do not pay rent is a good thing. No, I do not scamper off to Mom To ask permission. Often I sit at the bar late at night with a frw book lights and mu computer books. The bar noise keeps me up. I am often approached on what I am working on. I never tell now. I Just say lesrning new things. Then they go away.

I was trying to figure out the best way to say that “asking permission” isn’t something one will universally not do.  If it comes to real property and so on, that is different.  But, I can agree here that when it comes to life overall, people seek permission far too many times, rather than just do.  Idea is to not be wanting for approval of anyone, or needing it to do anything.

What I was going for as a core, is that you aren’t looking for anyone to approve of what you do at all.  You just do it, and you get comfortable with it, and you do it.  Too many guys end up having to want to seek acceptance and approval, that they will end up getting the short end of the stick, and end up feeling they just failed fitting in enough, that is why they ended up getting shorted.  To go one’s own way and acquire real power, is the way not to get shorted.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

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