NO-FAP? and unlocking your full human potential

[NotMyProblemParticipant 965]

I recently came across an interesting post by Tungus Kahn, called “any legit celibators here at all?”, and I’d like to expand on it, and specifically zero in on a concept known as NO-FAP…

Lately I’ve decided to go full MONK-mode, 100% celibate. I’m focused on self-mastery, and unlocking my full human potential. I have no need or interest in dating or f~~~ing females at all.

This is in no way an insult to the Men still pursuing vagina or dating. MGTOW is about each of us finding our own path. I wish you all the best on your individual journeys.

That being said, I can’t shake the feeling that I may be losing some advantage every time I masturbate. I’m a bit skeptical that NOFAP is healthy or beneficial, but at the same time I’m curious if any MGTOW have experience with this and would be willing to chime in?

If you have never tried it, and you just have some opinion unrelated to direct experience, I’m not interested. I have opinions too, however I’m specifically curious if anyone here has actually tried it?

As for myself, I did try it once about a year ago. After about 5-6 days I had the urge to rape every fattie in town, so I did not seriously pursue this any further. In my limited experience, I did notice a few effects, other than horniness.

In the week that I tried, I was literally bursting with happiness and energy. It was very noticable. It wasn’t so easy to fall asleep, but when I did I needed far less of it.

The reason I ask is because I have some big goals for myself, and I want to maximize my energy levels, and take every advantage in life that I can.

I’m not sure witholding semen for long periods of time is a positive thing, but I am totally convinced that over masturbating is seriously harmful. Perhaps there is a middle way? Not too much not too little.

Anyone have experience with nofap?

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[Macaulay BulkinParticipant 27]

From what I’ve read about no-fap after about a week there is a boost in testosterone, which is pretty much always beneficial in men. I’ll probably give it a go for a week or two and post any results here.

A smart man learns from his mistakes. A wise man learns from other's mistakes.

[NotMyProblemParticipant 965]

Yes after 7 days your testosterone spikes.

Some of these guys on no-fap reddit forums go for like 90+ days. How they do it I have no idea…

I’m at this point where I’m determined to be all I can be. If it gives me even the slightest advantage I’m interested.

If you can control yourself, you can control the world

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[Macaulay BulkinParticipant 27]

From what they write about their experiences it sounds like a lot of them do it to get sex, they don’t get themselves off so they essentially force themselves to go out and get laid. As long as you have self control it sounds like it could be a huge benefit to any MGTOW who chooses to go this way.

A smart man learns from his mistakes. A wise man learns from other's mistakes.

[Silverstone the SecondParticipant]

I’ll be honest, I think a lot of it is just a placebo effect. There’s always the constant saying that it boost testosterone, but if that was the case, pro athletes wouldn’t be allowed to have sex.

There’s all these people claiming it makes you more focused, smarter, stronger, and also makes your dick grow 10 inches as well. Try it. If you believe it’s good for you, then it is. I’ve tried it, didn’t feel anything.

Not bashing on those who have gone full monk mode, or seriously celibate. Just be careful what you believe out there.

Feminism is a movement where opinions are presented as facts and emotions are presented as evidence.

[NotMyProblemParticipant 965]

Yea. I noticed a lot of them do it for increased confidence and reduced social anxiety. I don’t have those problems.

It’s well known that fighters/Olympic athletes refrain from orgasm before a competition.

I know a few guys that told me they masturbate multiple times per day and they were all extremely effeminate.

However on the flip side I can’t be running around with 90 days worth of semen in my sack. I feel like that may be a bit too extreme.

I’m curious if theres a way to retain semen, while harnessing that energy in a way that replaces the horny-energy with some other type of energy.

I wonder how Buddhist monks do it, or if they’re all rubbing one out on the side lol.

Personally, I find about every 2-3 days is good for me. Once a day and I notice the energy drain.

I’m going to have to experiment on myself a bit. Maybe I’ll start by cutting back to every 4-5 days if possible.

If I learn anything interesting I’ll have to post my results.

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[NotMyProblemParticipant 965]

http://www.yourbrainonporn.com/book/export/html/148

I just found this. It seems to dispel the 7 day testosterone spike myth.

In fact it actually suggests the opposite. Abstinence can lead to lower T levels.

Interesting…

I still think that multiple times a day will probably make a man weak, but that may be a valuable trade-off if that’s what it takes to avoid females.

Conclusion:

Withholding yourself to the point of frustration is probably pointless and likely offers no benefits.

Silverstone is probably right on the placebo effect.

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[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

This can be easily explained. Men lose “jing” when they ejaculate. This is why some people hold their cum in. Women don’t lose jing when having sex they lose it when they have children. This is why men are more likely to have a heart attack in late 40’s and 50’s and older. Since jing is like a battery for your body you need to preserve it. This is why in religion sex is only for having children.

Masturbation is worse than have sex with a woman. Because when a man and woman have sex their exchange their energy. It might to actual nutrients being exchange althought condoms could be stop I guess. Still if you have sex with a woman with a condom you’re still benefit from her aura energy not the fluid energy like I have stated before.

http://www.shen-nong.com/eng/forum/topic.asp?v_id=705

http://www.losethebackpain.com/healthysex.html

http://www.wholelifeherb.com/FAQ.html << read question #3

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

I’m not a spiritual man so I can’t say if there is some kind of life force that is expressed or exchanged during the act of sex but I will tell you one thing… good sex is the single most powerful, authentic and reality affirming activity I have ever experienced.

I had a strong libido as a young man… I was sexually active at the age of 12 but even though I had the opportunity several years earlier, I waited until I was 20 to complete the act of intercourse. My first experience was average by my standards today but the second woman I connected with was fantastic. She was honest, open, supportive and very sex positive. She thought me how to love sex and to embrace it’s power and essential reaffirmation of humanity.

My time with her gave me the understanding that sex is what many people might call sacred. I don’t mean that from a religious point of view, I mean it from a “this is what we are and this is what we do” perspective.

This is why I have such a hard time understanding when people denigrate it or struggle with the idea that it diminishes them as a person. For me, it is the ultimate expression of the core of our humanity and the most real and pure way to connect with another human being.

I feel for people who have had sex used against them or who fear its dangerous aspects or who obsess about getting it or avoiding it or who feel their lives would be better without it. For me, it’s such a natural thing and I feel my life is enriched by the experience.

I couldn’t imagine giving it up any more than I could imagine giving up booze, steak, sleeping late or taking a good s~~~.

[AnthonyNParticipant 112]

NotMyProblem wrote:

Yes after 7 days your testosterone spikes.

Some of these guys on no-fap reddit forums go for like 90+ days. How they do it I have no idea…

I’m at this point where I’m determined to be all I can be. If it gives me even the slightest advantage I’m interested.

If you can control yourself, you can control the world

What I have a problem with is these “monk mode” types and “Nofappers” keep calling celibacy “self control.” F~~~ that stupid saying. It’s one thing to go your own path and another to say your own path is “self control.” I’ll do as I please and fap when I need to so that I have a clear head throughout the day. I’ll have sex usually on my days off or on my free time for extra fun.

As far as the nofap thing goes, there might be some benefits to it, but for most men, even most MGTOW, it’s a stupid thing to do. I can see if you’re religious and go that route or if you’re just doing it to avoid porn. But if you’re going to call your path “self control” f~~~ing back it up with empirical evidence that it’s actually “self control.”

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