Need advice/help, how f~~~ed am I

[SandalsParticipant 4253]

GoodKid44 wrote:

You saying “no wonder why they fired you” isn’t coming from a place of trying to lend a helping hand. You’re out for blood.

Sometimes a man needs a smack in the face, and today, that man is you. Had you stayed longer and not left when you did, they would have cheated you out of all your money, and you probably would have ended up DEAD! Got it???

Everyone’s trying to tell you that, and everyone is tiptoeing about it or have left the thread, because your getting so snowflaky-offended and you’re not listening.

I’m the guy who loves you enough to stick around and make sure you get this through your head! (and I mean that word in a bro way)

David Carradine murdered by Lady Boys

Let it go. Learn your lesson and move on.

[GoodKid44Participant 1524]

Sandals wrote:

GoodKid44 wrote:

You saying “no wonder why they fired you” isn’t coming from a place of trying to lend a helping hand. You’re out for blood.

Sometimes a man needs a smack in the face, and today, that man is you. Had you stayed longer and not left when you did, they would have cheated you out of all your money, and you probably would have ended up DEAD! Got it???

Everyone’s trying to tell you that, and everyone is tiptoeing about it or have left the thread, because your getting so snowflaky-offended and you’re not listening.

I’m the guy who loves you enough to stick around and make sure you get this through your head! (and I mean that word in a bro way)

David Carradine murdered by Lady Boys

Let it go. Learn your lesson and move on.

Not offended one bit. I stated countless times that I f~~~ed up and am learning from all this. Your particular comment came off as nothing short of volitile. We don’t have to agree on a simple idealogy. It’s fine not to. At least we’re all mgtow here.

Plenty of people have left helpful information on here which I appreciate. But in your opinion they were neither too nice lol.. I never said their comments were appreciated because they were “nice.”

Trying to call me a “delicate snowflake” for saying I don’t agree that an employer should get to control what you do or how you act off the clock is hilarious, and I’m simply pointing that out lol.

You’re the one who showed up on here to take everything I’ve explained on here out of context, making harsh statements towards my character.

You come with that type of tone to wrong person in the street and you’d end up face down leaking lots of unpleasantness. (Enjoy acting like this from the comfort of your own keyboard 😉

I already put my heart on my sleeve to try and get feed back about this. You mistake your outright denigration for some “it’s the only way you gonna learn boy” lingo.

You’re like the twentieth person who commented about how bone headed what I did was. At this point it’s unoriginal and a broken record, a dead horse.

Are you even mgtow because you seriously seem like you don’t have any patience for people seeking assistance on a platform like this. Please tell me how perfectly flawless everything you’ve done in life and business has been. I didn’t realize the great Jeff Besos took time to comment on this thread to tell me to get my s~~~ in order.

You’re like like that guy who when people ask “what are would you consider to be something your bad at…”you answer with something like “my inability to fail or make mistakes…”

Let me explain to you again where we are. It’s a mgtow forum. Just having to admit to being mgtow means that most of us on here (can’t speak for some people on here lol) have already taken full responsibility in some way shape or form. I already know that life isn’t fair. That no one is coming to save me.

In case you didn’t read what I wrote earlier… I kind of have alot of free time on my hands right now… We can do this all day if you like. I’ve got plenty of time to play with closet micro managing jackasses like you right now in between these job searches 😉

[SandalsParticipant 4253]

[OneLaneOnlyPlsParticipant 1747]

GoodKid44 wrote:

They invite me to their hotel where they’re staying, saying that they’re gonna get some girls and party it up. My shift ends pretty soon so I say “why not” and go meet up with them.

This is where I just don’t get some members, who aren’t new, yet end up sabotaging themselves.

I am trying to see the mgtow part above, but I just can’t. Why put yourself in a threatening situation like this, especially once you have taken the red pills on here?

Sorry bro for being harsh but in this case I have to be. Yes I know you wish you could turn back time now etc, but I would expect that from someone who just joined mgtow.

As far as I am concerned, this is beyond salvageable. You need to move onto another work role. Use this whole saga as a life lesson.

On and this…

GoodKid44 wrote:

On the way I pick up some supplies for them (condoms, sodas etc)

WTF dude?

I haven’t read any of the replies in her yet, but I hope they are talking some sense into you.

[GoodKid44Participant 1524]

OneLaneOnlyPls wrote:

GoodKid44 wrote:

They invite me to their hotel where they’re staying, saying that they’re gonna get some girls and party it up. My shift ends pretty soon so I say “why not” and go meet up with them.

This is where I just don’t get some members, who aren’t new, yet end up sabotaging themselves.

I am trying to see the mgtow part above, but I just can’t. Why put yourself in a threatening situation like this, especially once you have taken the red pills on here?

Sorry bro for being harsh but in this case I have to be. Yes I know you wish you could turn back time now etc, but I would expect that from someone who just joined mgtow.

As far as I am concerned, this is beyond salvageable. You need to move onto another work role. Use this whole saga as a life lesson.

On and this…

GoodKid44 wrote:

On the way I pick up some supplies for them (condoms, sodas etc)

WTF dude?

I haven’t read any of the replies in her yet, but I hope they are talking some sense into you.

Yeah, I already addressed this in a couple posts above. I’ve worked nightlife jobs for over 10 years. This may sound odd to you because you’re probably in bed already around this time. But imagine me saying to you that you should never go hang out with people you just met after your work shift.

We don’t have the same shifts but because of social stigma you consider hanging out with random strangers at 6pm vs 4am to be safer/better (it isn’t).

I’ve met great contacts going to parties like this in the past. I don’t expect someone like you who’s never worked the 8pm to 4am shift for 10 plus years, or who’s never lived in a big city to understand.

You’re probably judging this post nestled in your very residential area where everyone goes to sleep by 10pm and on Sundays they wash and wax their car before sitting down to watch Sunday football games.

If someone told me they lived in Vegas and visited a random person at their hotel room, do you think I should judge them, knowing what Vegas is like?

Alot go you guys are really quick to place judgment on this story because you seem to have lived lives that consisted of you waking up every day by 6am and then being home by 5pm at the lastest…. And then seeing a post like mine you’re quick go say s~~~ like “come on OP, I can’t believe you would ever put yourself in that position… Blah Blah blah…”

I guarantee you everyone who’s saying that on here has never worked 10 plus years from 8pm 4am, in a big city, where EVERYONE is single and going nuts. I don’t do drugs, never had an interest, but the amount of drugs I’ve been around and seen. Some of most honest down to earth people I’d give my life to protect do drugs. You’d be surprised how many functioning professionals there are who religiously do cocain.

You guys don’t seem to understand how lucky I am having seen the s~~~ I’ve seen, the women I’ve been with. The women who tried to trap me or the crazy people you meet during those hours.

I’m moving on from that environment, it’s way past due, but at least consider my situation before you try to go off on some “I would never do that…” type of response. I love how everyone all of a sudden is complete saint on here.

I don’t expect any special treatment on here but unless you’re Jeff Besos himself who’s life is basically perfect, you don’t get to talk s~~~ about my f~~~ up like I should have known better.

I wrote this to give you all a perspective of what can happen. I’m pretty good at calling women out on their bulls~~~, but I def needed a reality check that blue pill Simps are just ask dangerous, and this was def it.

Unless you guys have some amazing lawyer info for me or some other awesome helpful info to help my cause, don’t just think I’m going to sit here and take any sort of criticism just because you think I deserve it because you’re a guy who’s never partied past midnight.

I already know the person who can beat my up the most about this mistake is ME, so there’s no use trying to get in some more extra kicks on me while I’m already down.

Again, I’m greatful if you guys can help by providing any awesome information to help my cause (lawyers recommendations etc, but these “how stupid could you be” replies are becoming a dead horse. I take it its much easier to comment with criticisms about how much more Angelic you are compared to me, than to actually provide some helpful advice. Shout out to all the sadistic mgtow in here lol

[Vajra VarahaParticipant 1284]

Anonymous wrote:

Never again s~~~ where you eat is the moral of your tale.

Best advice given!

[OneLaneOnlyPlsParticipant 1747]

GoodKid44 wrote:

Yeah, I already addressed this in a couple posts above. I’ve worked nightlife jobs for over 10 years. This may sound odd to you because you’re probably in bed already around this time. But imagine me saying to you that you should never go hang out with people you just met after your work shift.

We don’t have the same shifts but because of social stigma you consider hanging out with random strangers at 6pm vs 4am to be safer/better (it isn’t).

I’ve met great contacts going to parties like this in the past. I don’t expect someone like you who’s never worked the 8pm to 4am shift for 10 plus years, or who’s never lived in a big city to understand.

You’re probably judging this post nestled in your very residential area where everyone goes to sleep by 10pm and on Sundays they wash and wax their car before sitting down to watch Sunday football games.

If someone told me they lived in Vegas and visited a random person at their hotel room, do you think I should judge them, knowing what Vegas is like?

Alot go you guys are really quick to place judgment on this story because you seem to have lived lives that consisted of you waking up every day by 6am and then being home by 5pm at the lastest…. And then seeing a post like mine you’re quick go say s~~~ like “come on OP, I can’t believe you would ever put yourself in that position… Blah Blah blah…”

I guarantee you everyone who’s saying that on here has never worked 10 plus years from 8pm 4am, in a big city, where EVERYONE is single and going nuts. I don’t do drugs, never had an interest, but the amount of drugs I’ve been around and seen. Some of most honest down to earth people I’d give my life to protect do drugs. You’d be surprised how many functioning professionals there are who religiously do cocain.

You guys don’t seem to understand how lucky I am having seen the s~~~ I’ve seen, the women I’ve been with. The women who tried to trap me or the crazy people you meet during those hours.

I’m moving on from that environment, it’s way past due, but at least consider my situation before you try to go off on some “I would never do that…” type of response. I love how everyone all of a sudden is complete saint on here.

I don’t expect any special treatment on here but unless you’re Jeff Besos himself who’s life is basically perfect, you don’t get to talk s~~~ about my f~~~ up like I should have known better.

I wrote this to give you all a perspective of what can happen. I’m pretty good at calling women out on their bulls~~~, but I def needed a reality check that blue pill Simps are just ask dangerous, and this was def it.

Unless you guys have some amazing lawyer info for me or some other awesome helpful info to help my cause, don’t just think I’m going to sit here and take any sort of criticism just because you think I deserve it because you’re a guy who’s never partied past midnight.

I already know the person who can beat my up the most about this mistake is ME, so there’s no use trying to get in some more extra kicks on me while I’m already down.

Again, I’m greatful if you guys can help by providing any awesome information to help my cause (lawyers recommendations etc, but these “how stupid could you be” replies are becoming a dead horse. I take it its much easier to comment with criticisms about how much more Angelic you are compared to me, than to actually provide some helpful advice. Shout out to all the sadistic mgtow in here lol

I am not referring to ‘hanging out with friends you just met after you shift’. I am referring to the proposal itself.

Lets review. Two guys were offering drugs and women (hookers) in a hotel room. These are people who attend your place of WORK. You thought this was a good idea to attend. Furthermore you acted as an errand boy to get all their stuff. Beyond this, you have had the benefit of mgtow advice on here for… how long?

Annnnd you went ahead on this anyway.

Why put yourself in a dangerous environment like this? This is the job you chose for yourself. Just because it doesn’t fit the ideal frame for your social life, doesn’t mean you put up with dangerous chit as a coping mechanism.

If you valued your job, why put yourself in this situation?

These people were NEVER your friends.

GoodKid44 wrote:

On the way I pick up some supplies for them (condoms, sodas etc…. These guys sounded like they were gonna go hard and even though I wasn’t planning on doing anything crazy, I didn’t mind seeing what they were up to…

Then why go? That is akin to walking into the Barrios in Argentina, just to ‘see what its like’.

I’m sorry you lost your job, and I know you have come here asking for advice, but don’t try and justify WHY you did it.

[OzymandiasParticipant 10]

ok since i’m not going to read through all these responses. I’ll tell you something you may have not considered. This guy set you up before this night. He saw an opportunity and you were just his patsy. I don’t even believe the story of how his card got rejected. He needed to explain his missing checks and came up with this story. You were just an unfortunate accomplice in his cover up. “yeah um we were just entertaining clients at a reputable place and we met this guy who promised to show us to the city.” Leaves you hanging until there’s no coke or hoes to keep you interested and you call it a night. Next day perfect excuse for the missing checks. Phone records to prove it. Sounds as if he may even suggested you were the one arranging the coke and hoes and they are the ones that declined the offer. Thus all the code of ethics bulls~~~, harsh stance they pulled on you. Rich people do s~~~ like this all the time.

[GoodKid44Participant 1524]

Ozymandias wrote:

ok since i’m not going to read through all these responses. I’ll tell you something you may have not considered. This guy set you up before this night. He saw an opportunity and you were just his patsy. I don’t even believe the story of how his card got rejected. He needed to explain his missing checks and came up with this story. You were just an unfortunate accomplice in his cover up. “yeah um we were just entertaining clients at a reputable place and we met this guy who promised to show us to the city.” Leaves you hanging until there’s no coke or hoes to keep you interested and you call it a night. Next day perfect excuse for the missing checks. Phone records to prove it. Sounds as if he may even suggested you were the one arranging the coke and hoes and they are the ones that declined the offer. Thus all the code of ethics bulls~~~, harsh stance they pulled on you. Rich people do s~~~ like this all the time.

Yeah, he played me.

After all I’ve been going through, in terms of searching for work and doing alot of soul searching, this guy may have just done me a favor.

Prior to him f~~~ing me over I was “comfortable” sad to say. Zero goals, zero drive.
I was becoming more and more hermit like in terms of not wanting to interact with anyone (unless I was at work).

This s~~~ that happened to me made me realize how pathetic I was becoming. How selfish and condescending. I was a selfish mgtow that thought the world owed me praise and adulation for going my own way. I was literally becoming a snooty asshole, but under this mgtow guise.

Fast forward one month later, I had to get out and meet people again. I have a new game plan which has to do with building relationships for business purposes. I plan to build online business’ and read more and study more to become a better smarter person.

I’m saying that I’m going to even pay for business mastermind groups to learn from business gurus and and I’m going to seek out mentors who can help me grow both financially and mentally.

I’m going to read more books and absorb information. I’ll still do mgtow stuff but not as much as before. Mgtow content was literally the only s~~~ I was absorbing for months (health stuff too).

This blue pill cuck really f~~~ed up my world and if I ever saw him again I would probably throw him through a closed window and stomp him to death, but this s~~~ has really gotten me to wake the f~~~ up and re analyze what the f~~~ I’ve been doing with myself.

I’m not out of the s~~~ just yet, but I may just be thanking him for kicking my ass into gear.

[Anonymous 54]

Go Good Kid!!!

Its the lessons we learn ,that are important in life.

Thats were personal growth comes from.

[GoodKid44Participant 1524]

Anonymous wrote:

Go Good Kid!!!

Its the lessons we learn ,that are important in life.

Thats were personal growth comes from.

I will say I have already moved on. The main issue I’ve noticed is in dealing with the Union that is supposed to be looking out for me. It’ll be going on almost two months now. Time that I’ve lost money in waiting for this s~~~ to conclude. I won’t hear back from them for two weeks at a time sometimes (unless I call them myself etc.). They’ll sometimes text me randomly when I haven’t heard anything in a while.

I just got a text from one of the reps today. I called her back and basically went off on this c~~~. I’ve been patient, but apparently the squeaky wheel analogy is the only thing that works in life. This union that is so called “looking out for me” is doing jack s~~~. They talk the talk but provide jack s~~~ for results.

This customer who lied and got me fired, I’ve already gained so much strength and outlook from what he caused and am ready to move on…but everytime the union gets back in contact with me I go straight back into feeling the anger I felt the first day I walked into HR to talk to them.

Here’s what I already know (but can’t prove). This union will not save me. They never could. They work closely with the company under the table and only put on this show for s~~~s and giggles. I’m a single male so my case is useless and won’t cause any ripples. Had I been a female who cried once in front of HR, all hell would have been raised to get me my job back.

So here it is. Since I know I’m never going back there I will be going scorched earth on this union. They don’t get the nice guy any more. I won’t contact them again. And when they do call or text I will be Shiva destroyer of worlds. The bridge wasn’t even built to be burned in the first place with them.

I’m content to move on already so it is what it is, but don’t keep coming back to me every two weeks saying that “we’re still fighting….” to keep my hopes up. The only ones who are still getting paid are the union and the company that fired me. The lost wages I’ve accrued are well into the thousands already waiting for these idiots to conclude what I already know: they were never going to help me get my job back.

I’ve always had my doubts with Unions and this situation proves my theory quite well. They should have just said that couldn’t help. But to keep drawing this out for their own self gain, using workers like myself as collateral is disgusting.

I wouldn’t wish what I’ve been going through the last 1 and a half months on anybody. Understand that even if you’re in a union, you’re still on your own. Unless you’re father is the head of the union or you have family in a union, you’re pretty much cannon fodder for their own bottom line. Unions are a joke. Unless they can use you as a poster child to make themselves look better they will do jack s~~~ to help.

Edit: The next time I talk to them. I’m going to bring up the female employee who was under age and got wasted at the holiday party, was throwing up in front of the GM (he fired her on the spot)….and she was back on the job in less than a month. Another female employee kept calling in and taking sick days (she apparently has a kid with “disabilities”, which is bulls~~~) so they fired her. It took a lot longer but after two months she was back on the job. They had to take her back. I never heard of any stories of men getting brought back. Hmmmmmmm, I wonder why. My union reps are all female. Probably just a coincidence huh

[JustAnotherGuyParticipant 143]

No offense but this isn’t a MGTOW thing.. Just so you know.

As dudes, we’ll support.. But..

Just sayin..

[SimulacraParticipant 78]

Never go home with strange men. Or strange women, which means all of them.

[TheBardParticipant 974]

Anonymous wrote:

Never again s~~~ where you eat is the moral of your tale.

yup, there is a woman at work I like but I realize it is not worth the risk at all. Plus she could do better then me so that helps too lol.

[GoodKid44Participant 1524]

Sadly, the fate of this job was put in the hands of females in the form of Union Representatives. I mine as well have not been part of a union in the first place. Even though my case has merit (they know the customer came back to my work place Drunk, they even band him coming back because he was drunk), the only thing I f~~~ed myself over on was telling the truth. You heard that correct. Had I lied and said I never knew the guy it would have been up to them to prove it.

Point being, even though I have the truth on my side, these people don’t give a flying f~~~. They care more about their own image then protecting the innocent. Some unions are good, but this one is obviously a horrible one.

Yes, never s~~~ where you eat, but know the boundaries to that. You can do what ever you want so long as you understand the law. I did not understand, at the time, that they would be using anything I told them against me. That was my “lesson learned, ah ha” moment.

I’m honestly just bummed out that these union reps strung me along in making me think that they would get me my job back. If I could give one gem of advice, it would be to keep your mouth shut. Know your rights in doing so and only talk to people who have your best interests at heart. That would only be your lawyer or your best friend. Anyone else, tell them to go to hell because they aren’t there to help you.

But hey, now I know. This, by no means, was my dream job so on to the next one. Evil people exist out there fellas. In men and women. Women are easier to spot, but these blue pill cucks are cunning as f~~~. Hopefully you guys got some knowledge out of my blunder.

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