Nature or nurture

[On the PathParticipant 28]

I’m a scientist, and we are taught that an animal’s behaviour is based on nature (dna/instinct) and nurture (learned).

Since i found this site, i’ve been putting my thoughts and experiences in order.
One experience keeps coming back to me, namely my first experience with modern women.

10 years old and in school.
The boys make up games, build stuff and have fun. I’ve no idea what the girls were doing, they were not on my radar.
But one day the girls decided, like a hive mind, that they all needed boyfriends.
So they stalked and cornered every boy to make sure they acihieved just that.
At first i said no thanks, did not see the point.
But this resulted in them coming to my house to make me say yes to this one girl and when i still said no, verbal abuse.
Of course i caved and agreed to be boyfriend-girlfriend.

This was not the end of it, next they started to decide what games we would be doing.
We had to play kiss and tag, where the boys had to tag their girlfriend and kiss them, whereas the girl could then tag a boy that was not their boyfriend.
This continued every day, making the boys more miserable by the day.

The girls also decided we should buy a gift for the teachers birtday together.
We pooled our money, but afterwards the boys had no say in what gift to buy.
This again frustrated the boys.

These ‘relationships’ continued for what felt like centuries, but probably no more than weeks.
But suddenly they broke up with all of us on the same day, while laughing.

Now here’s the question:
The girls were 10. Is this nature, instinct and hive mind.
Or is this nurture, learned behavior from mother and sisters, magazines and TV.

Although i’m mgtow and never want to be in relationship ever again, i hope in a better future for men-kind.
This will only be possible if this is learned behavior, because if it is nature, women are never going to change.

[RoyDalParticipant]

Mostly nature, they are wired up that way from birth, and with a bit of nurture thrown in to account for how they behave in different cultures and different social settings.

I am going with mostly nature because this behavior is so widespread than no other explanation makes sense to me. It is also obvious that they can modify their behavior to suit their surroundings, the bit of nurture, when it is to their advantage.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[On the PathParticipant 28]

Thanks for replying @roydal,

Yes, i agree completely it makes more sense.
The reason i started this thread is that it simply amazes me how early this behavior manifests.
And how obsessed, even at such an early age, they seem to be with relationships and peer pressure.

I tend to refrain from looking for an evolutionary explanation since we know little from early homo sapien living conditions.
But security and competing for the best mate do spring to mind, when also looking at other primates.

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

It’s nature I’m afraid …. well the foundations are. The house get demolished and rebuilt to fit the latest trends … nurture.

I may be wrong as I don’t have much contact with women … and if I do it brief at best.

[Anonymous 25]

Nature. They are programmed to read emotions and for verbal intelligence to manipulate. Nurture can come into it though. A smart guy will learn most of their tricks and use them back against them and stay away from them unless he can get something he wants. Women being creatures of emotion can be trained out of things surprisingly easy, they are very susceptible to Pavlovian conditioning. They go through a hissy fit phase like a toddler not getting its own way, but if you ignore their tantrum and continue the conditioning they can easily be trained out of stuff.

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