My Thoughts Since Joining MGTOW

[RoninParticipant 128]

I have a concept that I have been meditating on over a couple days or so. Is the natural state of women is to control and dominate? This is self-destructive because the lack of purpose (leadership). Where can a woman lead a man, aside from ruin? We can never be equal, if that were so, then there would be imbalance and constant fighting for dominance. If we are ruled by logic and they emotion, then the path is clear. Why is this such a testy subject?

As I stated before MGTOW is the best thing that has happened to me, since my b~~~~ dropped. Before I questioned if something was off with me as a person, because I could not love as they would have it. However, I did not falter in thought see this post as reference. Today, I came to the conclusion that I am not suppose to feel as they do. Wait for it… because I am not a f~~~ing woman. I tell you gents being raised in a female household can f~~~ with you for years.

Another example of the struggle, I was given a book “The Five Love Languages” and wondered why I couldn’t jive with the content inside. Well now I know and that book along with any other blue pill propaganda is going in the bin. They steadily feed this s~~~ to men, which is why I believe the woman’s state is to control and dominate.

Thoughts?

More to come…
Ronin signing out

Listen, and understand! That C-1000 is out there! It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop... ever, until you are dead!

[Anonymous 18]

Ronin wrote:

They steadily feed this s~~~ to men, which is why I believe the woman’s state is to control and dominate.

In order to control and dominate one needs to have concrete stance – on principles and on applications of such in real-life situations.

Now as her needs, circumstances, and whim fluctuate so does the scale by which her ‘domination’ over a man is measured.

Right up the crazy alley.

In her world domination is a man going out to work till death and handing over the money to her. Yet becomes her right to be protected and served at the expense and by the ‘submissive’ man- and she will assume a submissive position to the harsh elements of nature – all the while keeping a position of dominance over the man whom she wishes to face and suffer through the unpleasant elements of reality.

It is a baseless psychological gameplay.

Men ought not to listen to women. Period.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Ronin wrote:

I tell you gents being raised in a female household can f~~~ with you for years.

I think you would be shocked by my extensive exposure in this area. I often equate it to growing up with 300 sisters, and know exactly what you’re speaking about.

Ronin wrote:

Is the natural state of women is to control and dominate?

I would say yes — >> but only insofar as to test your weakness.

If she succeeds, she resents you for it and loses all respect ( and attraction ) for you.
If she FAILS, she will also resent and hate you for it . . . . .
but she will still have sex with you.

That’s the kicker.

I don’t mind saying in all the other ways, you may be over-thinking it. On the surface, women APPEAR to want to dominate and control a man / personal relationship / marriage. But she is miserable if she is permitted to do so.

If there’s one thing a woman hates more than a man,
It’s a man who’s not under her control.

The key is . . . . . to have the b~~~~ to let a woman hate you.
I’m not even saying that to be funny.

In fact, “asshole” is one of the best compliments you can receive from a western/Americanized female. It’s often a very good indication that sex will happen within the next zero-point-five minutes.

From a MGTOW perspective I would not recommend being an asshole because it turns her on. Thats PUA tactic bulls~~~. I’m just saying, it’s not a problem if she hates your guts. It means you’re probably doing everything RIGHT.

Ronin wrote:

Where can a woman lead a man, aside from ruin?

Reminds me of a little joke:

Q: Can a woman make you a millionaire?
A: Sure! If you’re a BILLIONAIRE.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 42]

Keymaster wrote:

The key is . . . . . to have the b~~~~ to let a woman hate you.
I’m not even saying that to be funny.

Agreed! Then don’t turn your back on them, you can’t deflect knives you don’t see coming!

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

Ronin wrote:

Is the natural state of women is to control and dominate?

NO . It is their natural state to test your dominance by trying to dominate you. They want you to rise to the challenge and prove your strength over and over again by overpowering their coup attempt. It gets tiresome playing this never ending game.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

FrostByte wrote:

NO . It is their natural state to test your dominance by trying to dominate you. They want you to rise to the challenge and prove your strength over and over again by overpowering their coup attempt. It gets tiresome playing this never ending game.

^^ exactly.

But for @ronin, I would emphasize it doesn’t matter “what she wants” or that she wants a man to “rise to the challenge”. Playing russian roulette with a fully loaded cylinder is more fun than these kinds of mental gymnastics.

Just look at the smug arrogance on that bitch.

Now you know why she’s repeatedly single against her own will.

That’s the very same bitch who’s in no position to be “testing” anybody.

She’s a self-proclaimed failure, herself, and makes music videos about an entire population (and generation) of women who are seemingly outwardly “attractive” but can’t even get asked out in months. . . .while thinking they are so fabulous when they go drinking and dancing with each other as a last resort. And in-between puking hangovers, she sits on kitchen floor next to the garbage can – with her best friend the cat – pounding down ice cream by the gallon.

No man worth anything would ever rise to her challenge.
She can’t even fall of the floor.

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For once, I would like a woman to “rise to the challenge” and not burn water when she makes tea. Or how about prying her eyes off her phone and carrying on a civil conversation for 5 minutes. Or maybe throwing a bunch of dried noodles in a pot of boiling water and adding some store bought sauce – before expecting anyone to take her out for dinner. Or how about asking “is there anything I can do for YOU” before she starts “testing” and “challenging”.

A man “rising to her challenge” is the epitome of lame.
The modern female is no position to be raising any bar for men to jump over.
She can get a puppy for that.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[RoninParticipant 128]

That woman did nothing but irritate me with her voice and the noise that came out of it. I can listen to reruns of the Black Phillip show over and over again, but I couldn’t take 1 minute of her rambling.

As for challenges, I completed a glorious workout listening to Arnold’s motivation speech on loop. Those are the challenges worthwhile, not deciphering white noise bursts from a hopeless pit.

After leaving an appointment today, there was a woman by the elevators to go down. I had to consciously make it a point to get on the elevator first instead of waiting for her. However, I did hold the door for confusion purposes and it was a courtesy shown to me earlier (paying it forward). She replied with a small mouse like “Thank you” and I replied with silence and footsteps in the opposite direction. The day prior an older woman with a child came in my path and smiled. I felt no inclination to return the smile. It was freeing to not do so, I do not like smiling unless it is genuine. I do not hate women for the sake of hating them, however I do not feel any need to dance for them anymore at the expense of who I am as a person. My happiness is number one.

Listen, and understand! That C-1000 is out there! It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop... ever, until you are dead!

[MuglintarParticipant 1333]

Ronin wrote:

My happiness is number one.

yes totally agree to that. But what a miserable life it would be, if your happiness derivates from treating others bad?
If a woman smiles at you and you don’t fell like smiling back, fine. But not to return the smile just out of the thought it wouldn’t fit to the ideology of anybody that inhibits doing any good towards women? Nah! that is why feminists call us “women haters”.
An author I was reading as a kid and in my early teens (Oliver Hassenkamp) once wrote: “politeness is among humans, what oil is for a motor, it reduces friction to the unavoidable minimum”.
When you fell like to hold open a door for an elderly lady, then do so, if not then don’t. MGTOW is all about doing things your way, do things that you consider right to do in this moment and be ready to bear all the consequences resulting therefrom. And if you want to be nice, then be nice. and if not, then not. MGTOW is taking responsibility for your actions and not fullfilling (gynocentric) expectations. A MGTOW is at any given time fully aware of what he is doing and why he is doing this. He has used his knowledge and experience to evaluate a given situation and has decided to do things the way he considers best to handle the situation. He will never hesitate to break expectations placed upon him, if his conclusion of thoughtful analysis is to do so, but will not actively look for doing harm just to prove his independence. MGTOW do what they consider is best and don’t give s~~~, if this is in line with or against other’s expectations. MGTOW do not look for approval or confirmation of others, while same is essential for the psychological well-being of any woman.

“What others think about me and what I do, I don’t even think about” – MGTOW

“What shall others think about you and what you do and do they and society in general approve of this?” – feminine thinking, exagrated in feminists trying to shame men into doing something, respectively change men’s behaviour. “does the MGTOW community approve of my behaviour right now?” – is a thought that actually is going towards same direction and indicates, you still are infected with the gynocentric indoctrination we all have been suffering.

The first red pill is an awakening, MGTOW a possible and logical consequence. An pretty well respected politician (K. Adenauer) once said “Capitalism is for sure not the best system, but it is the best system there is so far” – I’d like to put MGTOW instead of “capitalism” and then it comes pretty close to my view on things right now.

If there is something I learned, then it’s “the journey down the MGTOW road, changes your views on things pretty rapidly, quite regularly.”

"Him, who delights in solitude, is either a wild beast or a GOD!" - Aristotle (Aristot. Pol. 1.1253a) 1 Hom. Il. 9.63; the passage goes on: ἐστὶν ἐκεῖνος ι ὃς πολέμου ἔραται.

[RoninParticipant 128]

Muglintar wrote:

yes totally agree to that. But what a miserable life it would be, if your happiness derivates from treating others bad?

Your intent is sound, but I am not treating others bad per se. I am willfully attempting to break habits that developed over the years from what I should do concerning women. For example, Keymaster pointed out that I started a few sentences with to be honest. It’s a hell of a ride ensuring that my no(s) are no and my yes(s) are yes. Which by the way Keymaster, came up in my appointment. That buffering was a survival mechanism.

Coming from a lifetime of blue pill servitude, I am damn near fanatical with pointing out what I could not see before. This is an exciting time, s~~~ I would say a second puberty in the right direction. With most things, in time the intensity will wane, however the embers will still be there.

I have spent thirteen years of my life in the Army and on lighter note, HATE smiling. I do not like children and would not hold the door for someone UNLESS they are directly behind me. Instead of smiling, I give you a nod. I acknowledge your greeting and return it in a way natural to who I am. This is across the board. If someone is in mortal danger, of course I would lend aid. The woman reminded me so much of my ex-wife, who reminded me of my mother, then I went into overdrive. Another time, another place, I would have blue pilled my way into a relationship with such a woman. It was a moment of triumph to finally see it all for what it is.

In short, I am taking back my life, defining what a man is through my ideology and f~~~ing going to live for the first time in 33 years.

More to come…

Ronin signing out

Listen, and understand! That C-1000 is out there! It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop... ever, until you are dead!

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

Ronin wrote:

Your intent is sound, but I am not treating others bad per se. I am willfully attempting to break habits that developed over the years from what I should do concerning women.

When you come from a bluepill state you were all the way to the left (selling your soul to woman and society letting yourself be used) and when you go to the redpill rage you swing all the way to the right (you avoid everything to do with woman and have some contempt for much of society). Back in the center is MGTOW, you taking care of you. There you will find it easy to smile at everyone who deserves it. Confidence, self-actualization and sovereignty are powerful shields.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[RoninParticipant 128]

FrostByte wrote:

and when you go to the redpill rage you swing all the way to the right (you avoid everything to do with woman and have some contempt for much of society).

When I brush my teeth in the morning, I see this.

Listen, and understand! That C-1000 is out there! It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop... ever, until you are dead!

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

Ronin wrote:

When I brush my teeth in the morning, I see this.

I kinda sensed that. It’s a process give it time. Keep hitting those weights and making those goals.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[MGTOW KnightParticipant 7477]

Hey man I can truly empathize with you. The Red pill rage can be all consuming in the beginning. In time, things do get better. I would get a dog. They are man’s best friend for a reason. Hell, it also gives you a reason to get off your ass, and do some cardio. Keep hitting the weights. Lifting is cathartic.

Fuck bitches... literally and metaphorically

[AttonParticipant]

I believe the woman’s state is to control and dominate.

When you think about it this does make a fair bit sense. If they lacked the ability to secure provision from men, this would mean death for around 95% of women. You sure don’t see women upholding the law or maintaining industrialized society. If men where to take reproduction into their hands this would represent a massive loss of power from the hands of women. The shift would be entirely unprecedented and their quality of life could easily fall dramatically. This shift in power would be a something women would try to avoid if they had any sense. Either way it doesn’t matter because women’s control over society is meaningless in the face of the march of technology. Nothing is more powerful and nothing will liberate men like it would. Women enjoyed the fruits of technology and human progress the same will happen for men. This isn’t in their interests and its in their very nature to avoid men’s liberation. Because the liberation of man could cause an end to provision forever. Human language is insufficient to express the potential of our technology. Suffice to say we will get the last laugh in the end and nothing can ever hope to change that.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

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