My Struggle With Dating

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    FunInTheSun
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    I was very shy when I was a teenager. I had to develop a sense of familiarity with a girl before I got the courage to ask her out on a date. After high school, I didn’t have any strategy for dating women. I didn’t do a lot of dating because I was generally afraid to approach women and strike up a conversation. I was afraid of being ridiculed or rejected in a way that would be really embarrassing. When I was in my 20s, I did more socializing and met more people. I was in situations where I would hang out with a group of friends and meet new people. If I found a woman liked, I’d ask her for her phone number and we’d go out. I dated several women, but I wasn’t good a seducing them. It’s like I had to date 5 to have sex with one. I tried “cold calling” a few times: I’d introduce myself to a woman on the street and start talking to her and then see if we could develop a connection, but I was always too nervous to have a decent conversation this way. I’m not dating right now. I haven’t dated a woman in years. Ironically, since I stopped trying to impress women, I find it much easier to have a conversation with them. When I used to go on dates, I was constantly thinking about getting the women to take their clothes off. Because of this, I was worried about saying or doing something stupid to “turn her off” (and we all know it only takes a split second to turn off a woman). At this point in my life, I don’t have the pressure to have sex or have a girlfriend to be socially acceptable. I accept that some people are going to have negative opinions of me. I also accept the fact that there could be a million different reasons why a woman would reject me if I asked her out on a date. Believe me, I’ve been rejected so many times…I don’t even cry anymore or scold myself for my lack of social/seduction skills. I just accept reality the way it is and work with it. In spite of the failures of the past, there is one aspect about myself that has improved: I don’t feel embarrassed or ashamed when I introduce myself to people. I look them in the eyes, smile, and say my name with a sense of pride. For years, I used to have this vibe that made me feel apologetic for being who I am. I decided to let go of that—sometimes I even laugh at myself for feeling insecure or tripping on the sidewalk in front of people. It’s therapeutic. What I am striving to become during the second half of my life is: a self-sufficient man who’s financially and emotionally stable.

    I’m reminded of a scene in the movie, The Matrix. During this scene, The Oracle was having a conversation with the main character, Neo, and she pointed to a sign that said, “Temet Nosce.” I interpret this particular scene like this: the The Oracle wanted Neo to realize his own value. Later on, after a few failures, Neo discovers he has some hidden talents and uses them to become a hero. Once he really knows who he is and what he’s capable of doing, he doesn’t have to go through life being afraid and unsure of himself. I think the same state of mind is necessary to feel comfortable talking to women and dating them: you know your worth, and no one can take that away from you.

    "I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)

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    Untamed
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    Hey fun.
    Thank you for sharing that. I identified with your troubles at approaching weemins early in life. My problem wasn’t her, though. It was with me, from childhood traumas, only then I didn’t know it. Still, girls have always found me handsome so I never had to work hard to get laid. That said. I still had to get rid of that internal conflict. It was solved when I understood that I shouldn’t mind much what others say or might think. My self esteem shot up and I was fine.
    Until I got married. You can guess how that ended.

    Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
    Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
    #GenderSegragationNow!

    #105764
    FunInTheSun
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    Good for you, Untamed. I used to wish that women would “give me a chance” or help me boost my self-esteem. I found out how misguided that kind of thinking was, and I hope the younger generation of men can avoid my dating errors.. When we see men living up to their full potential, it is THEY who give women a chance and not the other way around. That’s the natural order of things, and most women seem to gravitate toward that social dynamic (at least in most nations). We might be able to save a few lives with this website.

    "I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)

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    Anonymous
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    I can relate as well. I was so damaged even before my teen years that by the time I got there I just couldn’t even ask a girl out and even when I did have a girl who was obviously interested I couldn’t bring myself to make a move as I just couldn’t accept that she did like me enough to accept my affection.

    As I got older it tended to remain the same, I would chase women who made it difficult and ignore the ones who were practically throwing themselves at me. Fear of success and not knowing what to do once I got there!

    #105778
    Untamed
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    Good for you, Untamed. I used to wish that women would “give me a chance” or help me boost my self-esteem. I found out how misguided that kind of thinking was, and I hope the younger generation of men can avoid my dating errors.. When we see men living up to their full potential, it is THEY who give women a chance and not the other way around. That’s the natural order of things, and most women seem to gravitate toward that social dynamic (at least in most nations). We might be able to save a few lives with this website.

    Guys come in here crying about a way out away from psycho “better half” and others find out what marriage and divorce really is and swear to never get married. Read the threads, look around here.com and the horror stories and survival stories.
    It’s gone epidemic

    Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
    Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
    #GenderSegragationNow!

    #105924
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    RoyDal
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    Guys come in here crying about a way out away from psycho “better half” and others find out what marriage and divorce really is and swear to never get married. Read the threads, look around here.com and the horror stories and survival stories.

    These wise words say it for me; heed him.

    Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

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    Anonymous
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    I would chase women who made it difficult and ignore the ones who were practically throwing themselves at me.

    I’d lock in on “The One” as a young buck and ignore others throwing themselves at me. I could have gotten laid 10 times more often. However, I probably saved myself from certain hell by my own ignorance. As I got older, I realized that if I had to work for it at all I was being played. She will let you know is all I can say. Now, if I can just learn to ascertain her exact craziness level w/in the first five seconds I may have a chance. I just assume any woman I meet is at full peg on the crazy meter until proven otherwise. I learn a new dimension of crazy from every single one I meet.

    Dating is a struggle for men especially when we’re younger as the deck is really stacked against us unless you’re in the elite “cooter cutters”. One of the benefits of facing rejection is that it builds character.

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