My story- ongoing and yet to be resolved.

[Brashen015Participant 4]

Hello, im very recently MGTOW and would like to share my red pill moment as this has happened recently. Im a 25 year old male living in the united states. When i was 22 i met a woman who was 32 and seemed smart educated and had her own place, car etc. Me being young and a very avid fitness mainly bodybuilding type of guy i thought wow an older woman this might be what i need to have a more mature, loving and lasting relationship with someone. Up until this point i had dated the 18-24 bracket and frankly assumed they were just to immature for me. Me and this woman began a relationship after a few months until one day she came to me claiming she didnt feel safe at her apartment because of her landlord she claimed he would sometimes try to touch her in a sexual way. MY GOD we must save this poor princess! Off i trotted to rescue her like a fool. She asked to stay with me and i said yes, the next 6-7 months was ups and downs and me being generally unhappy. I remember clearly the day she came to me out of the blue saying she had 2 things she needed to tell me. First she says shes pregnant and its mine, in disbeleif i ask how? She did claim she had an IUD when we first met, but hey 99 percent effective isnt very effective right?. Second thing she claims is that my best friend raped her when we first met. Obviously im shocked and stunned did i read between the lines and leave her? No i had a child to worry about now. Fast forward 9 months of me being there for her even after all this BS i have a beautiful daughter whom i adore. From 2013 to now things have been rocky for i didnt love this woman anymore she had robbed me of so much, she hated my bodybuilding because she claimed i would cheat on her, she introduced me to what i feel now as pure satan which is the drug oxycodone which led to depression and at times thoughts of suicide. It was 6 months ago today i looked in the mirror and HATED myself, i needed change i WANTED change, i got down on my knees and begged the lord jesus christ to help me (i was agnostic at the time). It was that day i stopped abusing drugs, stopped smoking marijuana and cigs and started dieting and bodybuilding again, i also broke it off with the mother of my child. I tried to arrange a easy breakup but one where i could still see my daughter, however this sadly did not happen she took off to a friends house and kept my daughter from me, after months of trying to contact her to no avail i get a police officer knocking on my door serving me a PFA (false rape and abuse allegations). That experience was my red pill moment. Im still drug free and bodybuilding even through this crisis and hope this may serve a warning to anyone out there, woman can be manipulative. I consider myself intelligent however this situation has taught me how blind and stupid love and or perceived love can make you.                             Shoutout to luimarco of youtube land i salute you and your videos have given me the inspiration to continue my religious and bodybuilding journey.

 

Sorry for the lack of paragraphing my phone is not very good lol.

[…Spectator 1165]

@Braden15: holy s~~~ man. that story is like, five red pills all at once. goddam. thank god you got your faith and you are in shape. read what’s going on and other people’s stories here and the wisdom will both comfort and astound you.

i was raised christian and i am very grateful to my mom (god rest her soul) for giving me strong core values. at least i had a framework to work from. i think being a christian and being mgtow go hand in hand. wasn’t it St. Paul that said something about being single is the way to go and marry only if you must? he might be the first mgtow ever to come out and straight out of the f~~~ing Bible! Hell ya!

anyway, i’m a mgtow vet and i’ve helped a lot of my friends escape their situations or create a strategy to save their lives. my advice to you is this: 1. click around on the site and read what the head guy (his handle is “KeyMaster” says about perceived love. he’s a smart motherf~~~er. 2. google is your friend. start building your mgtow strategy against this f~~~ing bitch. build your strategy in your head while working out instead of listening to music if you can. my best ideas are while driving on the freeway. 3. find a lawyer in your area that can help you out and if you don’t have money, find a mgtow friendly one on the internet. 4. be glad you found us. guys that can probably specifically help you out are brianpilot (genius level) ironsoldier (has three kids and can probably advise you better than I) docfenderson, rayb, deus le machina are all outstanding mgtow men. keep us posted and good luck!

[SamMGTOWParticipant 95]

Damn. Those red pills can be hard to swallow. The most intelligent men can make the most irrational decisions imaginable when there is a woman involved. They rub off on you this way. If I was you and she came out of the blue telling me she’s pregnant after she said she had an IUD, said your friend “raped her”, is insecure enough to want you to not bodybuild out of fear of cheating (this paranoia is common among people that actually cheat), I would get a DNA test. After all, if your friends are all raping her how can she know who’s kid it is. You had became the classic Captain-Save-A-Ho. Be prepared for s~~~ to go south, the gynocentric courts will F~~~ you over because you’re a man. The pure allegation of rape and abuse will destroy you. I would advise you to start saving money for your rainy day, you might be extremely grateful you did in a couple months. Better yet, don’t keep it in the bank either. The courts will take that figure and wire it straight to your ex. Stash it under your mattress or something for when you need a lawyer. I welcome you to MGTOW, and I hope the advice that fellow MGTOWS provide to you can show some guidance on how to navigate your position in the legal climate.

[Brashen015Participant 4]

Just an update on my situation and kindof looking for advice lol. So i went to court after she accused me of rape and abuse. I hired a lawyer and she didnt have one suprisingly. Needless to say i won the case, all charges were dropped and her protection from abuse order was cancelled after she admitted lieng. Prolly wont see my kid ever again because she is physchotic but atleast this is over. My lawyer also got me some nice insurance  incase she tries that bs again. Anyway my main question or rather intrigue is as follows, THE ENTIRE time we were there she was visible to me and i to her, now i ignored her mostly however she was stareing at me the entire time. She was wearing SKIN TIGHT yoga pants, decked to the nines with makeup. After 2 hours with me not paying any attention to her she asked my lawyer to inform me that she still cares about me and she did this for my own good, this shook my confidence a bit because im thinking WTF??. I then looked over at her and we made eye contact, she immediately began playing with her hair and then very sexy like put it in a ponytail. On a just male level i felt excitement but on an intellectual level i was like choking on a red pill, she was trying to mind f~~~ me and gauge if she was still valuable or attractive. At this point i remembered everything ive learned since being a MGHOW and ignored her even more harshly, she seemed to be visibly angry and stormed out. As  i was driving home i actually passed her on the street- she was walking and looked defeated lol. Oh and heres the icing she said shed only agree to dropping the case before trial if we got couples counseling, i went to trial. I guess im asking is this real life? The sheer illogical mind gameing gynocentric BS i just went through is insanity.

[…Spectator 1165]

Brashen015: WOW MAN I AM SO F~~~ING PROUD OF YOU RIGHT NOW! F~~~ing awesome news! Thanks for the update.

[Brashen015Participant 4]

Hey thanks man, im still finding it kindof hard unplugging however. Afterall my entire childhood into my early twenties i was raised to be a white knight and watching movies and consuming other media that told me men are SUPPOSED to save women. I spent every relationship dedicateing my heart and soul to pleasing women. If i had spent that time following my own passions i would be much better off. Thank f~~~ im still young.

[BrainPilotParticipant 7640]

Hi Brashen,
Welcome to mgtow. Nice to have you here and it’s good that you’ve found us as early in life as you have. There are many other people here who are having, or have had experiences similar to the one you’re having now. Women like the one you describe are numerous and widely distributed, and they do enormous damage wherever they go. So, you’re now qualified for membership in a club with a very long list of members…

It’s unfortunate that your red pill experience is that you’ve been targeted by a woman as toxic as the one you describe, but toxic is definitely the most appropriate word. The thing that got my attention the most was her introducing you to oxycodone. But as I read, I started to see a pattern that I have seen elsewhere. I’ll try to connect some dots and you decide if you think it fits the person you described.

The pattern is one most commonly used to describe the behavior of male perpetrators of domestic violence…essentially wife beaters. But I’m not talking about you beating her. I’m talking about what she’s done to you.

The patterns (which you can google and read about for yourself) are typically of a guy who targets a woman younger than himself, susceptible to emotional manipulation, without a lot of close friends or family members close by. These guys are model citizens in the beginning to establish trust. It’s hard to manipulate without some trust. The second step is to encourage her dependence on him, usually with money to pay her bills or giving her a place to live by moving her in etc. Once she’s dependent on him, the next step is to eliminate her options i.e. encouraging her to quit her job, drop out of school etc. Second to last step is to isolate her from whoever or whatever other life she had previously. i.e. quit the sports teams, church activities where she has friends etc. Typically, they get jealous and possessive here and things just start to get a little nasty.

Once a woman has been manipulated into being dependent and isolated, she can be physically abused without much consequence to her abuser. I’m definitely not condoning this. It’s wrong and is appropriately criminalized in every state. I’m only describing the known patterns of it so that you’ll recognize what seems to be the same pattern coming at you from the other way. The other noteworthy pattern: they are never more gentle nice, romantic, loving, caring or whatever else the woman was most hoping to get from him…than they are right after they physically beat her. They appear to be remorseful…every single time they do it, but they keep doing it. Last, they are never more dangerous than when the woman tries to leave/escape.

From what you describe, this is a woman who targeted someone about 10 years younger than her. This is not an accident or a coincidence. It’s easier to get trust from a 22 year old man who is less likely to have seen toxic women before. At 32, men her own age are likely to have seen this crap before. They have more experience and more to protect and so are usually much slower to trust. Being generally less hormonally charged, they are also much more difficult to manipulate with sex. 32 year old men not only have the option of women their own age, they often have the option of younger (better looking) women as well, and so they are harder to isolate from their options.

After targeting someone 10 years younger than herself, this woman demands that you stop bodybuilding so you’ll be less attractive to other women (give up your options), and introduces you to oxycodone (making you dependent). You seem like a religious person and that this is important in your life. Let me guess: she was not a fan of your involvement in church???

So after you got emotionally baited by the idea of rescuing the damsel in distress, you gave up your options when she convinced you to stop working out, and became dependent on oxycodone. Then, it got a little nasty and you tried to leave. That was the point at which she tried to destroy you with the fake rape allegation. Female tries to escape male physical abuser and this is the point at which she is most likely to be killed. You tried to leave and being unable to kill you, she had you arrested on the fake rape charge, which is about the most destructive thing a woman can do to you short of actually killing you… but offered you the chance to see the ‘nice’ side of her again when she showed up appearing to be as sexy as she possibly could have. Male abusers use emotional manipulation after hurting their women in order to try to lure them back. Females use sex for everything they want to get from men. In both cases, they use it because it works.

If your 20something year old brain ever is tempted by the sex-bait this woman dangles in front of you again at some point in the future, try to keep this in mind: rape is a felony in every state. That usually means prison. Prisons are full of violent criminals who were very often sexually abused as children. As children, they probably had no chance to get revenge on the person who did this to them. But as adults, they will not pass up the opportunity to take it out on any other sex offender they can find. And this is why sex offenders have such a bad time in prison. You do not want to be that guy in a prison as you can probably imagine what life would be like for you…

This woman was street-smart enough to introduce you to oxycodone, and file a false rape allegation. She knew very well what would happen to you in prison on a rape charge and SHE WAS TOTALLY OK WITH THIS! This means that in her head, you are totally disposable. Let that sink in…

I don’t care if she won a gold medal in the pussy olympics… this isn’t worth it.

Last, and this probably goes without saying, you should maybe get a paternity test on the kid. You said she admitted she lied about the rape charge against you. I don’t think I’m far out on a limb here saying that she lied about the rape by your friend, and lied about the old landlord as well. Your story mentions a total of 4 guys including you, your friend, your lawyer and the landlord. She’s accused 3 of 4 of either raping or otherwise being inappropriate with her. The only man in the story she hasn’t yet accused of something is your lawyer. The child may in fact be yours, but I don’t think it’s smart to take her word for it given how unreliable her word has been so far.

If it happens that the kid is not yours, AMPUTATE this woman and don’t look back. No visits, calls, emails or texts. Restraining order would be best. If it is, then keep yourself as mentally, physically and spiritually healthy as you can because you will need all of it for you daughter. Her mother is likely an oxycodone addict, and that progressive pathology will get continue to get worse. The point at which you become sole custody parent is inevitable, but will likely still be very messy. You’ll need to be strong and healthy to get through it.

In the future, this will probably not happen to you again. You’ll see it coming and recognize it for what it is next time.

Being a white knight is a bad idea because sometimes the princess you are rescuing from the dragon… turns out to BE the f~~~ing dragon masquerading as the princess.

Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

[…Spectator 1165]

BrainPilot is correct as always: this is not unusual and not an accident. Braden: what do you need advice about? why you shouldn’t hit that pussy because it looked so good in the courtroom or what hahahahhaaha.

[Brashen015Participant 4]

@Listenup- that was my issue haha as stupid as it is to me now.          @Brainpilot- Your spot on bro however i do know the kid is mine and i feel she used the im on BC no worries as a trick tbh. Im italian and thus have a olive skin color. Why is that important? Well when i first met her she did tell her friends she always wanted tan children….DAMN…why wasnt i smarter. The real tragedy of this is the pros of seeing my own blood and playing with her, makeing her smile are f~~~ing DWARFED by the con of that womens sheer existence. this would be the 3rd time shes taken her from me for an exstended period. She then uses her to get back into my life “innocently” trying to be friends. The problem is i see a f~~~ing pattern like groundhog day, holy hell ive done this before. By sheer process of elimination and not wanting to fall victim to Einstein’s definition of insanity i have decided to cut them both out. Call me a f~~~ed up person but this is survival.

[BrainPilotParticipant 7640]

You’re not f~~~ed up. Putting your own health and sanity first is the only reliable way to have either one, and is the correct thing to do. Your daughter is a hostage now and the state will help her drug addict mother collect the ransom payments. For most men, I would also say that they have no chance of getting their kids back. But the mother of yours is a drug addict and like most of them, will probably self destruct before too long. Depending on laws in your state, you may have a chance at getting your daughter at that point. In my state, we got mothers who are convicted felons serving prison time but state won’t take custody from them and give it to fathers. It’s completely screwed up. But I’ve heard other states are not so bad. do your research and stay mentally, spiritually and physically strong.

Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

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