My MGTOW story – a natural evolution.

[onmywayParticipant 502]

Hi!
I’m a 25 year old Norwegian guy and I just recently found out about MGTOW. Since discovering it, it has not stopped blowing my mind – in both good and bad ways. Many beliefs I used to have are breaking down. However, my newly discovered freedom feels amazing and I wouldn’t trade it for the world. I’m very grateful that I never married and that I’m currently single.

I rarely dated during my school days. However, I was always liked, especially by fellow male friends, as I’ve always been good socially, and have a strong sense of justice and integrity. I was one of those guys who would call out “alphas” for talking bulls~~~ and was one of the few that did not ignore trash-talking. I confronted fellow students when they bullied others, either physically or emotionally. This made me popular amongst “the normal crowd”, people who could see that I was talking truth, and therefore I always had friends backing me up. However, I was never one of the “cool kids”, which was natural as I hated them for their distasteful and weak behavior.

In elementary school my parents divorced. I was completely crushed. And abused in so many ways emotionally, by both my mother and my father. At the time, living with my mother, I hated everything about my father. To this day I love my mother, but she displayed my father in the worst possible terms – at the time I just couldn’t believe how cruel my father had been in leaving my mother. She was very manipulative, and gave me nothing but her perspective in everything. However, my father was dumb as f~~~ as well, and did his share of manipulation and trash talking. I was a constant “middle man”, trying to end constant wars between my mother and father. And I was 8 years old at the time. Just writing this makes me tear up. I hated everything about the divorce and I still do. Luckily I have a good relationship with both my mother and father today, and have a much more balanced view on my parents’ divorce. Experiencing this was definitely my first step in questioning marriage in general. However, it would take several years for me to come to the realization that marriage is something I will never, ever go through with.

It was during my years in Junior High where I discovered the great potential of daily practice and self discipline. I started playing the drums at age 8, but I got serious about it in Junior High and started to build a practice habit of several hours every day. This habit has helped me in so many areas later in life and is the reason for most of my successes until now. It also got my mind off the constant wars at home – with drum practice being some sort of meditation or therapy. However, as I was the only one in my community (as far as I know) working hard at something every day, many people, including my family, started to question my behavior. They wanted me to do music “in moderation”, “go on a date or something” or just “relax a little”. However, from my perspective I could see nothing but a f~~~ed up home situation where both my parents were total failures at their work and their personal finances, so I didn’t accept their beliefs. I continued to work hard, won several awards for my music and was granted a scholarship at a prestigious music conservatory. However, after only 3 weeks of uni-life I hit a wall. I burned out. I didn’t want to play music anymore. So I quit. Additionally, at the same time I told my father to go f~~~ himself for the first time in my life and cut contact with him for a year. I was always good at telling friends at school what I felt, but I never had the guts to talk straight to my mother or father. At the age of 21 I gave my father the finger for the first time and unloaded a life-time of frustration, hate and anger. It was necessary, but brutal. War at home got worse than ever. My mother being harassed by my father. My step-mom almost divorcing my father for going loco. And what did I do? I said f~~~ it and went to Japan (!)

I went to Japan on a whim and got really fascinated by the country. I decided to learn Japanese, and thanks to the self-discipline I’d learned through music practice, I was able to learn it to fluency in only two years. I then got recommended by the Japanese Embassy for a state scholarship, which resulted in me taking my bachelor’s degree in Japan. For free!
However, life in Japan was definitely not easy. And it was here I experienced serious girl problems for the first time in my life. Like I said earlier, I was never that popular in Norway, but in Japan the tables got turned. I got a LOT of attention from girls just based on my looks, and since I spoke Japanese fluently getting dates and going on dates was easy as hell. But boy was I unprepared.
Paying for dates, planning dates, girls all of a sudden turning psycho, jealousy drama. You know the drill.
Well, at the time I though this was “normal girl behavior” and what to be expected from girls. However, I remember constantly being p~~~ed off by the fact that girls were stealing my time and energy away from my more important endeavors – school studies, language studies and traveling.

Two years ago I came back from Japan. It was a cold shower to say the least. Back to fat chicks with an attitude.
I got depressed and started to go online for dates. This was a terrible idea – I met nothing but cat loving, ugly, entitled bitches. I thought about moving to Japan for good, only to get with hot women again. Even if this meant working 14 hour days for half the pay I get here in Norway. I’m grateful I didn’t go through with that plan.

Since last year I started to read. A lot. This opened me up to minimalism and simple living. As a result I sold and gave away 80% of my stuff and have never looked back. Then I went on to learn good personal finance habits and frugality. This resulted in me paying off 100.000 NOK (around 11.000 US$) in student loans in 6 months. Later, I started to read up on nutrition and exercise. I lost 14 pounds, kicked my binge eating/drinking habit, got in great shape and learned to cook. I felt great, but as I went through with these radical moves, friends and family started the shaming. “You’re such a nerd!”, “You know you will never get a wife if you continue to live like that?” “Why do you always overdo things?” “Why won’t you have another drink? You’re boring!”etc.
I believed them at first. I started to think that I needed to “tone down” a bit, compromise in order to “get along” with girls. But I felt amazing. For me, everything I had done had contributed to nothing but positive changes in my life. Why did I have to change something that was nothing but good for me?

A couple of weeks ago I went on a date. She was amazingly hot. But she was really full of herself. She even told stories of how she had manipulated ex-boyfriends and been a bitch towards her ex’s current girlfriends as some sort of a joke. I kind of laughed it off at the time, but it left a really bad taste in my mouth. I got home and started to think about life. I just wanted to be free to do what felt right for me. I wanted to be able to call bulls~~~ when I saw it, just like in my elementary school days. I didn’t want to laugh at s~~~ I didn’t find funny, in hopes of a future blowjob. It was around this time, through a random Youtube video, I saw the word “MGTOW” for the first time. I googled it, found this site, and it blew my mind. It was like reading my own thoughts. And it felt great to know that I was not the only one.
I will continue to be social, have friends, go travel, work hard and have fun. But f~~~ women. F~~~ marriage. F~~~ working as a slave to buy s~~~ for women. I didn’t turn MGTOW that two weeks ago. I feel as if I’ve been MGTOW for a long time, alone. But two weeks ago I found other men just like me. Thank you guys so much for this site and this forum. I will definitely stay and learn as much as I can..

– littmindre

[UntamedParticipant]

Thank you for sharing, Littmindre, and welcome to mgtow.com! I’m glad you found this site, glad you saw the light and decided to opt for self-preservation, a sane move in an insane world. You’ve also got the experience that Asian women are just as insane as their western cousins, contrary to what some menginas are advancing.

Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!

[WallyParticipant]

Welcome! It’s always interesting what other people perceive as relaxing, you were relaxing through your music but your family didn’t get that. Loved your story, you have lived so much in such a short amount of time and are wiser for it.

"what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."

[onmywayParticipant 502]

Thank you guys for taking the time to read my introduction! It really means a lot – I started off just writing a couple of sentences, but before I know it I poured out everything. I’m looking forward to learning more from the men on here and get on with life as a free man myself!

[NioZenParticipant 856]

Welcome bro!

Damn it gives me a f~~~ing raging hard-on to see a fella say “NO!” and set his spirit of freedom and passion for life alight. KABOOM! That’s when it’s on bitches, that’s when we’ll see his potential being fully exploited, when the energy of universal creation starts to flow through him unhindered and unbridled. Stand back and watch the fireworks! Oh yeah.

ROARRRRRRRR!

We only dream this bondage. Wake up and let it go. - Vivekananda

[Anonymous 18]

Welcome brother, great introduction

Once the light switch is on, there is no desire to be what we had been groomed to be – to serve and to dwell in the pussy darkness filled with narcissism, justified by victimhood.

For every 3 months of my life I probably have 1 day of wishful thinking about a nawalt.

Then I realize it’s the idea in my head that’s all. AWALT.

As a man thinking for yourself is not permitted. The thought concentration camps run by society are only an issue if you paint yourself as a target.

Lay low, live your life to the fullest. And when asked about a woman “haven’t met the right one, ohhh so hard to find connection nowadays, I really do want a soulmate”

You could never go wrong as most women use same logic to justify riding the c~~~ carousel.

Can you smell the life long freedom yet?

[onmywayParticipant 502]

I can definitely smell the freedom. Good advice on laying low, iLearn! I will remember that.
I will share the MGTOW philosophy only if other men are receptive. I won’t waste time on arguments with either men or women.
I’m just gonna continue doing what I’m doing and give the finger to norms such as getting married ASAP, being a “gentleman” and giving women things, favors and all your free time. 🙂

[John Woods 13Participant 2855]

Welcome Littmindre!
Great story. I’m glad you found your way without having to go through all the s~~~ first. Keep doing what you’re doing and don’t let your “friends” drag you down to their level just to justify their own misery.

The answer is NO. “I could but I won’t”. Memini murum!

[Anonymous 5]

Welcome, and thanks for the great intro.

I think just about everyone who finds MGTOW is already MGTOW.
I know the feeling of seeing the term “MGTOW” and then typing the term into YouTube search. It’s a mind blowing revelation to see there’s a whole culture of men going their own way who’ve worked out the reality of male/female relationships.

I too discovered minimalism and real nutrition. Our entire consumerism culture is based on the lie that materialism and fancy foods bring joy and happiness. In fact they both make people miserable slaves.

A great book for MGTOW is “The Manipulated Man” by Esther Vilar.
The best book for nutrition is “Why we get fat” by Gary Taubes and the best site is in Iceland “Authority Nutrition”

Ilearn is right, keep a low profile and enjoy your freedom.

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

Welcome to the forums. People also asked me why I not married. I’m in my late 40’s and still don’t want to marry. I have been going my own way since 1986. My father always pushed me to marry. I never told people why I won’t marry because I didn’t have proof back then until 2012.

Most women are just a waste of time dating or not. How many women willing to pay their own way for a date? How many women talk about things that are really productive? Not too many.

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[FrankyParticipant 2338]

http://img01.deviantart.net/f896/i/2012/044/4/e/broken_chain_by_jaydogg74-d4plndi.jpg
beautiful sight
i never get bored seeing it

[Anonymous 29]

Good intro Littmindre. Welcome to MGTOW.

[No CountryParticipant 759]

Great introduction my friend and what an amazing read. I am very happy that you are here. I also like how you are going to spread the word. There was no better feeling when I found this place. It truly is amazing. Welcome again!

[LonerBonerParticipant 358]

Welcome brother!
Swedish MGTOW here, good intro. The phrase below made me smile.

Untamed wrote:

Two years ago I came back from Japan. It was a cold shower to say the least. Back to fat chicks with an attitude.

Keep clam i'm dyslexic.

[onmywayParticipant 502]

Thank you guys for the warm welcome!

@**** – Thank you for the book recommendations! Started reading “The Manipulated Man” yesterday!
@Limpan – Great to see a fellow Scandinavian on here! Haha, yeah, it’s funny because it’s true 🙂

[tripvanParticipant 193]

Welcome! As a musician, I hope you can bring yourself back to the drums now you have all this free time, or whatever instrument you wish to learn now! I know what it´s like to hit the wall and burn out with your passion, and I just gotta say you´re probably a completely different person now you´re heading in this direction so don´t let your past stop you from fulfilling your dreams 🙂

[MattNYCParticipant 2329]

Hey Litt, great intro & welcome.

I like the idea that some men are getting to MGTOW without having to go through the grinder of (their own) divorce before searching for a better way. You’ve already realized it, but every breath of fresh air only gets better!

Looking forward to hearing more about your travels & self-improvement.

[StanAndreasParticipant 160]

Thanks for sharing your story, Littmindre! I hope you don’t mind if I say you were fortunate to learn early life lessons in manipulation that are serving you well now. Stay strong!

Also, when I think of Norway, the last thing coming to mind is fat, ugly, cat-loving chicks. So thanks for clearing that up. 😉

Safety rules: All guns are loaded. All knives are sharp. All stoves are hot. All women are like that.

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