My introduction.

[Admit_The_ProblemParticipant 69]

Hello everyone, hope you’re doing well.

I have been a lurker for a long time and created my account this week after a ‘breakthrough’ in therapy. I am almost done with college and have a great job lined up so things are going well, but I have been in therapy on/off for 3 years as it is free and I wanted to handle issues before therapy would cost money post-college.

What was the breakthrough? As cliche as it was I remembered conversations between my mother and my 3 sisters which left an indelible mark on my relationships with women throughout my life. My mother often reminded my sisters (obese and un-charming as they were) to evaluate a man’s F.E.P. or Future Earning Potential before starting a relationship. What is his FICO score? Is his credit sound? Does he have job prospects?

Now these questions are fair to ask in my opinion, but I would often respond ‘What should I look for in a wife mom?’ to which she would answer ‘nothing, it is your job to provide a good home for the lucky lady’.

Well gents, I said F~~~ THAT from an early age.

I have watched 2 of my sisters turn down good dude after dude as they don’t fit the sky high standards drilled into them. One sister wised up and eventually married a pretty good dude, its nice to have at least one more honest person in the family.

As for myself I haven’t always held my head up high around women. I remember strongly a girl flirting with me in high school just so that I would buy her a cookie, which she ate and then immediately left and never talked to me again. I remember thinking that day that the lesson I learned was well worth the $2 cookie. I have had concrete examples every day of my life that women are not worth my trust.

As I prepare to re-enter the working world I have much to be proud of. I have largely thrown off the victim mentality which plagued me for many years. I have healed from the violence and bullying which dominated my childhood and family life. I am the only member of my family (besides my father) who can keep their booze in moderation and has a job worth anything. But its not all great news at the moment.

I’m still bitter, and I am still hurt.

I find myself unable to trust the vast majority of women. Funnily enough, my 2 best friends are actually a guy and a girl respectively. So I know that I can trust them, but there needs to be no risk. No legal contract. No money at stake. No long-term ramifications.

Basically, I have largely healed and re-built myself over the last few years. Going from 230lb-160lb, lifting weights, and learning how to dress well made all the difference in my quality of life. I went from being a loner to a a guy partying weekly at one of the bigger party schools in the country. I built multiple social circles, learned to say no to people, and realized many of my goals along the way. In this time of excitement and success I need to always remember how women treated me when we were equals. I bore them. I never learned ‘game’. I don’t hang out at clubs. With me its no drama. I like my life to be a pond rather than an ocean.

Its my pleasure to meet you all, and I hope to read more of your stories and post a few of my own in the coming weeks.

-Cheers mate.

[Blue SkiesParticipant 15665]

welcome!
i’m glad you found the path to freedom. Enjoy the website and the forums.

MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

Welcome
Good job taking control of your life and your future. Stay on that path and good things will open up to you.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[FoolmeonceParticipant 30]

Welcome brother.

Looks like you learned the truth early in your life.

[narrow road travelerParticipant 1680]

Welcome brother, you’ve already been doing alright. Now you’ve found confirmation.

The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting. --Sun Tsu

[Anonymous 42]

I like your avatar, it reminds of this picture I took in Amsterdam,

[Admit_The_ProblemParticipant 69]

Thanks! In my opinion few things are better than a couple beers and some good music after a long day.

-Cheers mate.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Enjoyed your intro, and a big welcome to you.

Admit_The_Problem wrote:

My mother often reminded my sisters (obese and un-charming as they were) to evaluate a man’s F.E.P. or Future Earning Potential before starting a relationship. What is his FICO score? Is his credit sound? Does he have job prospects?

… I would often respond ‘What should I look for in a wife mom?’ to which she would answer ‘nothing, it is your job to provide a good home for the lucky lady’. Well gents, I said F~~~ THAT from an early age.

Out-f~~~ing-standing.

Admit_The_Problem wrote:

I find myself unable to trust the vast majority of women.

That’s OK. You can’t ask someone to show they are “trustworthy” anyway, because trust doesn’t generally work like that. You will either trust them freely or you won’t. Personally, I give everyone 10 points from the moment I meet them…. then they tend to lose them, which can be disappointing.

Better to start women at zero. It’s fair(!), because she’s starting YOU below that and they will expect you to bust your ass to keep your nose above water.

You know that cookie? You were scum before she ate it. It didn’t count as a gift from you (or a +1 ) , she EXPECTED it from you. So you thought the cookie would put you at +1 and make you a special guy, when really, you just went back to below zero as soon as she ate it. So don’t feel bad about it. If a woman wants to be trusted , it’s not up to YOU… make it up to HER. You can say that to her face and feel good about it. Everything you do – and every “yes” – should count as a +1 or the answer is no. Consider not permitting women to expect an automatic “yes” from you. They are “not free”.

Welcome to the forums, and hope to read more for you.
You’re gonna do just fine.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[BlacqueJacqueShellacqueParticipant 6890]

This was one great introduction! Welcome A_T_P.

Admit_The_Problem wrote:

I remember thinking that day that the lesson I learned was well worth the $2 cookie.

Wish I was smarter than that at your age. But, I grew up with brother, no sisters. No forewarning. Only brainwashing.

Admit_The_Problem wrote:

I like my life to be a pond rather than an ocean.

This reminds me of a quote my Dad says about one of his Acadian buddys ” I may be a little frog but I require a huge pond.”

Great first post.

[TuneoutParticipant]

Welcome bro and good for you dodging the marriage trap too,helps when they give you the Red Pill at an early age eh?

Typical broads,want everything from us but give nothing in return- thinking their pussy is enough of a sacrifice- unfortunately divorce courts agree with them.
Married men pay way to f~~~ing much for that pussy rental over the years in a settlement.

Lifes a bitch,but you don't have to marry one!

[Admit_The_ProblemParticipant 69]

I just watched the video in your signature Interstellar. That was nothing short of horrifying. Truly disturbing.

-Cheers mate.

[bladeParticipant]

Welcome to the brother hood . Another young life that is know safe from torture of the plantation .

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[HitmanParticipant]

Welcome.
Glad you found us!

[Anonymous 0]

Welcome home, ATP
Beer’s in the fridge

[Joey AlfioParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

I like your avatar, it reminds of this picture I took in Amsterdam,

Δεν υπάρχει τίποτε αδύνατο γι’ αυτόν που θα προσπαθήσει. - Μέγας Αλέξανδρος

[Truthseeker82Participant 6406]

Welcome. Fantastic intro and you are clearly on the right path! Many of us wish we had such wisdom earlier on in life. But never too late. Cheers.

[The_YoungParticipant 1073]

Very inspirational. Sounds like youve truly learned to love yourself.

Your conversations with your mothers and sisters interest me..Most men are so indoctrinated that they would have looked right through “its your job to provide and earn for the woman”. But not you. You’ve proven you’re smarter than that. You are your own man, and nobody can take that away from you.

Brother, we need to stick together.

[Anonymous 0]

Welcome. It shows your true wisdom to recognize this at your young age before you ruined your life. Congrats.

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