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Frank V. 4 years, 3 months ago.
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G’day everyone on MGTOW.
My first post here, after joining up the other day, How did I find the site? that’s a story in itself really, but reading a bunch of forums regarding what the hell is up todays women, and the sheer amount of hoops you have to jump through, let alone before you can even be defined in a relationship these days is just astounding. Now while I’ll make a proper separate post on the dating section I do feel I should go over some points here too. I’ve always been in long term relationships. While I did have afew hook ups on the way, they were mearly relationships that didn’t pan out. in my 20’s I was with this army chick, some friends thought that was pretty cool, and it was since I was once looking to join too, I got to get a glimpse of that life without being in it. But the culture there especially on base might as well be a late night bar in the city where its all about hooking up with everyone, turns out after 4 good years she ended up cheating on me with someone there. As with being younger I dragged it out longer than I needed to and needlessly gave myself more grief than I should’ve allowed. Fast forward some years, and with another, who was my first, got back and spent 5 years in that. I left start of this year, and have been focusing more on myself since.
Probably should’ve seen the red flags, but with boobs right there sometimes its hard to see beyond that, she had a boy, who wasn’t mine, who’s 8. The real father typically was a total s~~~bag, Which did slightly make me feel good knowing I was always better than that, but I took on the father role all the same, At the end I was basically doing all the housework, cooking etc and looking for work, after doing some courses, including an online course. And I might add, once again I was letting myself feel like that was all I was there for, all I can is thank f~~~ it wasn’t marriage. I’ve been reinventing myself, spending time on my favourite video games, which really seems like some taboo these days especially with women, a guy can be a douche and get them but a guy who likes video games is a red flag? Once apon a time it did get a bit out of hand with the online MMO’s, but still, I do have life goals that i’m moving towards.
If you know my Profile picture.. yes I do like metal gear solid. I only wish they focused on story still instead of mainly the gameplay, as I dig the movie quality that games can possess. I have a bunch of tattoos, which I never get like random stuff of the tattoo shop wall, but whatever im into, if its a big thing for me, f~~~ the haters or whatever I get it done for myself, I even have a nice big Skyrim dragon tattoo that im quiet proud of. What really lead me from various forums etc to here though was the vast waste of time the dating sites have been for me. I’m average looking I guess, but not ugly by far. Getting work has been hard even though i’m always looking for it. I have college certificates, but it’s still hard, I do think that it’s like many have said here.. that they go straight to your “occupation” or “income” before even trying to know you at all. Ive had a lot of regections, but 90% of the time they at least don’t start conversation, which keeps it simple enough. But what gets up my nose is the ones more than happy to blah blah away just to they disappear, before a date can be set, or ones that have even stood me up after all of it.. Whew.. and lastly, I Did have a date the other week, that appeared as promising as hell, but we didn’t have chemistry “apparently” even though on the day you could’ve been mistaken.
It of course all falls back to my nature to and looking up about this “nice guy” syndrome online is what actually got me to find your website.. Now I shouldn’t have to become an asshole to get women, but if that’s the way it is, how is one meant to stamp out 33 years of just being themselves? which is exactly why I say to hell with it..
I’m going to be the best I can be for myself, and they can start to show me their worth too and what they can bring to the table. Prehaps even start conversation abit too, so its not just us doing all the risk for the reward, that’s why they’re able to take such a laidback approach to all of this.This is really just the icing on the cake of what’s happened this far. But I’m making the future work more for me instead of against me.
Cheers for reading all of this! and I’m glad to be here and share my stories with you guys. Oh I’m in Australia too. šLets enjoy ourselves while we are here!
Welcome to the brotherhood of MGTOW. Have a drink and enjoy the ride!
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Welcome! I am glad you found this site.
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
what they can bring to the table.
Welcome Aussie snake… man. I think you hit the nail on the head with that comment. At the end of it all, you’re expected to be a bad boy-ninja-Tony-Stark billionaire that is both a D-bag and committed. In other words, you’re expected to be a walking oxymoron. It is surprising to see that you have to deal with that stuff, even though you are oceans over. It seems the same is true for women from one coast to the other. And it’s all for what? The charades and games they play, with no apparent end-game or final boss sequence. It’s essentially chasing shadows. You’re not missing anything.
You know, we are about the same age. I found that over the last few years since gaining freedom from my self-imposed oppression I’ve re-invented myself damn near completely. And you know what, I goddamn love it. I’ve changed careers and local, invested in education, and have enough loot to spend without worry. What I’m trying to say is IT GETS BETTER. To a degree that you probably aren’t even aware of yet. Keep grinding and welcome to the fold…BTW… the soundtrack (especially title song) to Skyrim is most epic… make a brother want to go conquer some sh*t. Take care bud.
Funny, isn't it? How women thrive on a mans time, attention and resources, while simultaneously telling him he isn't enough...

Anonymous18Welcome brother. Planet mgtow is happy to have you.
The real father typically was a total s~~~bag
The greatest lie ever told by women. I am strong and independent but did you know how bad my ex-husband was to me? No? OK let me tell you in detail. I am not looking for sympathy but if I was any lesser of a woman I would have broken down a longtime ago. Like totally no need to feel sorry for me. But just look at what he did. Now you love me and support the gene pool that’s not yours. My poor child. You are a man s/he never had in the real father (s~~~ I sound so convincing).
Most single mothers aren’t smart enough to think longterm.
Single desperate momma – booby trap of the century.
welcome

Anonymous29Welcome mate. So, Sydney, Melbourne, Canberra, Perth, Brissie ? . . . other ?

Anonymous42Oh Iām in Australia too
Welcome to MGTOW AU-Snake, ya know, you guys Down Under don’t have it all that bad being isolated from the rest of us, you shouldn’t feel so left out, when things in this hemisphere turn geothermal and we’re having all the nuclear fun, you guys will sure appreciate your isolation, and with the rain forests of South America filtering all the mess, YOU’LL have the highest real estate values! Ya just gotta look for the silver lining in every cloud, even if they’re mushroom clouds!
Welcome, MGTOW can be like stumbling into a party when you where expecting an empty venue or just found “the best kept secret” in town.
First off, congratulations avoiding getting married. A lot of guys in situations like yours fall for the “commitment” trap. “Commitment” is an old Yiddish expression meaning “start taking me for granted now”. When you get married a lot of things happen, including you giving her a license to take you for granted because leaving will be more difficult. Why do you think so many men complain about the drop in affection and sex some interval after getting married ? Why should she “try’ anymore- she already has you “caught” or “snagged”. It’s all very similar to the terms fishermen or fur trappers sometimes use when they have trapped their prey. That is you she is talking about, reduced to owned property.
Second, you are learning how to use use the iron fists of “no” and “enough”. If you do not set limits to how you are treated, then who will ? I’m middle age now and have watched decades of emotional vampires, rinsers and gold diggers at work. Unlike a smart black mail artist who quits when you have been reduced to a dessicated husk, some women never stop.
Remarkably, such parasites can be easily repelled with the word “no”. When a man says “no”, and means it, it puts that crap to a stop.
The thing you have started to do is look, listen, watch people, think and then sit down to “crunch the numbers”, you will find out a stunning truth. You, sir, are in demand ! You don’t have to chase after them, they will come to you ! And you can set the terms and take your pick, if you so desire.
Every time you….
See a news clip on the “marriage strike”
See one more of scores of articles pondering where all the “good men” are.Or
Hear some asshat who is so whipped he can’t dare even chose a different brand of TP to wipe his butt with for fear of his wife’s scorn tell anyone else to “man up”.
Listen to what is being said ! MGTOW is such a small movement, but the impact has already been huge. If MGTOW didn’t matter, then why would this site be under so much attack ? Why are there national news stories on MGTOW and the “Marriage Strike” ? Why do “Third Wave” Feminists go into seizures foaming at the mouth with insults and raging like lunatics ?
Because men learning to say “no”, meaning it seriously, setting limits and making them stick is their worst nightmare. It means that if they play mind games, sneak behind your back to plot or cheat, that you can dump them without a care in the world and move along. You own you.
The idea of men not putting up with bulls~~~ terrifies them. Good.
Frank V.
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