Money and Lawers

[Krab_AssParticipant 267]

I heard it said – ‘Why is divorce so expensive – because it is worth it!’

New to a divorce situation or going to enter one?   Do what I DIDN’T do and protect yourself with a lawyer.   I wanted to ‘play nice’ when I got divorced many years ago (used a common mediator to handle things and guide us through the paperwork).   Now she is coming after me for more money many years later!   NOW I am going to get my own representation.  A MALE lawyer – not a FEMALE mediator.

LEARN from my stupidity friends – PLEASE!!

HAPPY MGTOW DAY!!!

 

"I care not what others think of what I do, but I care very much about what I think of what I do! That is character!"
~ Theodore Roosevelt

[Anonymous 42]

Krab_Ass wrote:

***LEARN from my stupidity friends – PLEASE!!****

Hey unencumbered, It’s no longer your stupidity, it’s now wisdom!

Stupidity is getting married to the Justice system by proxy Woman, it’s not only stupidity, it’s insanity, and it’s self enslavement! However, it’s a great deal if you’re a woman, and an even better deal if you’re a SLUT!

[kbbroilerParticipant 886]

Hey encumbered. Just a question by any chance did you call into the Tom Leykis show to talk with Adam Sacks this week or last week. Some guy called in and said sort of the same thing as you did. Same deal the woman was a mediator or something. I hope the boys are listening to your message and get a lawyer if getting a divorce. Don’t cheap out on this!

[Krab_AssParticipant 267]

kbbroiler wrote:

Just a question by any chance did you call into the Tom Leykis show to talk with Adam Sacks this week or last week.

No sir.  Not me.  I am in touch with a local lawyer though.  I have the sinking feeling I am about to get raped by:  1. The lawyer and then 2. The ex.

For my situation, having someone on MY side from the start would have been the right move.  I was foolish and it will cost me.

Thanks for the info on Tom L show.  I have heard only little on his show but he speaks to my heart, head and wallet.

Peace.

 

"I care not what others think of what I do, but I care very much about what I think of what I do! That is character!"
~ Theodore Roosevelt

[CPT ObviousParticipant 2760]

I would agree, except with one exception.  If you have the ability to do the decree yourself AND get her to sign it right away and file, do it.  That is what I was able to do with my second ex.  She was p~~~ed about some stupid thing and was in the process of moving out.  While she was loading the U-Haul (with her stuff and a lot of mine), I drew up the papers.

When it was time for her to go, she was expecting me to beg her to stay.  Instead I plopped the papers in front of her and told her that all she had to do was sign and drop it by the courthouse on her way out.

The look on her face was priceless.  But if you can strike fast and get her to agree, it stops her from being influenced by friends, family and lawyers who will encourage her to nuke you.

That said, if it is obvious that it will be a contested divorce, lawyer up and try to file first.  Then watch her launch her full compliment of nuclear warheads and the mutually assured destruction.

Yes, your lawyer will put on a strap-on and bend you over, but at least he will smile and be your ally in the courthouse to prevent unilateral destruction.

"You don't know a woman till you have met her in divorce court."

[Krab_AssParticipant 267]

Thanks Capt O.  Good advice.   Maybe I can get some K-Y gel for the strap on.  It would suck if he started a brush fire back there (ha ha ha).

 

"I care not what others think of what I do, but I care very much about what I think of what I do! That is character!"
~ Theodore Roosevelt

[Cipher HighwindParticipant 1144]

Qualms about consulting lawyers are usually penny wisdom and pound foolishness.  Before modifying my truck, I even consulted one regarding the state’s street legal laws.

[…Spectator 1165]

CPT: Obviously.

[Anonymous 42]

Captian O, Your maneuver was brilliant, and showed that you were thinking on your feet, I have discovered that it is useful to become immediately acquainted with the statute and written words of the law, to study it and be familiar with it’s connecting chapters and subsections. Also hire a male lawyer in the field of expertise that is befitting of your particular case. It’s good to read the laws that may affect whatever you’re attempting. Make sure you comply with licensing and restrictions, just about everything is controlled by laws, and being ensnared can ruin your honest attempts at whatever.

Law under marriage is not FAIR to men, however it’s the law! The horror stories of marriage are published throughout this forum. Women have gained the ability to destroy by proxy, using the justice system to achieve a mad mutual destruction, and in this process, Women enrich the legal system and it’s associates! In other words, the judge should just hand her the gavel, and allow her to smash your head to pieces.

[CPT ObviousParticipant 2760]

… wrote:

CPT: Obviously.

You are hereby dubbed Sir @ListenUpObviously!

"You don't know a woman till you have met her in divorce court."

[CPT ObviousParticipant 2760]

@MG-Tower: Agreed. After spending a year in family court and over $40k, I became pretty familiar with Divorce decrees, child custody laws, restraining orders, discovery, alimony, child support, parenting plans, and everything associated with it. I remember sitting in courtroom watching a guy get butt-f~~~ed by his ex’s attorney while his attorney just sat there. I wanted to go up there and shout, “You’re out of order, and you’re out of order, this whole f~~~ing system is out of order!”

With the knowledge I gained from my first, with my second I downloaded the divorce template from the County’s family website and was able to DIY.

Even if you have no experience with divorce, I still recommend this course of action early on while possible.  Just get a lawyer and have him draft the decree.  Just make sure you strike quickly while the iron is hot. Once she lawyers up, it gets very expensive and painful.

The obvious fact she doesn’t realize is that when the lawyers get 30-60%+ of all your assets, she will look likely end up getting LESS when contested.  Madness.

Now I am going to resume my smoking of cigar and drinking of Jim Beam.

"You don't know a woman till you have met her in divorce court."

[Smacktalk73Participant 296]

As a lawyer, I have to first say that anything I say here is NOT legal advice and I am not YOUR lawyer.  OK, there, now that my lawyer hat is off (remember, I’m NOT your lawyer) let me tell you the truth about lawyers: Their primary reason for agreeing to represent you is that they are trying to make money.  Shocking, I know.  But when you hire a lawyer, you are never paying for any particular result.  You can’t buy a “win” no matter how much you’d like to.

Just as doctors have you leaving wondering “what the am I paying for?” when you pay $1,000.00 to talk to them and feel no differently than you did before you talked to them; you need to realize that a great deal of what you pay for in law is the fact that your lawyer has a huge amount of training and experience.  They won’t necessarily get you a better result than not having a lawyer.

People go to doctors, and still die.  People get lawyers, and still end up losing a lot of money.

So, in addition to hiring a lawyer, you need to do absolutely everything you can to understand, for yourself, what is going on.  This is the fight of your life.  The biggest mistake you can make is thinking that by hiring a lawyer, you’ve solved your problem.  You haven’t.   Hiring a lawyer is like buying a gun — you can just as easily shoot yourself with the damn thing, if you don’t pay attention.

[Anonymous 42]

CPT Obvious wrote:

“You’re out of order, and you’re out of order, this whole f~~~ing system is out of order!”

Hey Capt., So very true….I can’t say more, add, or amend, so very true…..

Smack said: Hiring a lawyer is like buying a gun — you can just as easily shoot yourself with the damn thing, if you don’t pay attention.

Hey Smack, The best advice I ever received from a lawyer is: “volunteer NO information”, The flairs and explosions going off in my head at that time could be heard throughout his office. In fact I felt the telepathic connection, and realized that he was on the list; “volunteer NO unnecessary self incriminating  evidence”.

We don’t want to exhume any unnecessary corpses that are resting in peace.

 

[Tbowden1Participant 195]

I can’t remember where I heard this, but every time I hear these horror stories I flash back to this great quote:

“Smart people learn from their mistakes, smarter people learn from other people’s mistakes.”

[CPT ObviousParticipant 2760]

Tbowden1 wrote:

”Smart people learn from their mistakes, smarter people learn from other people’s mistakes.”

And the smartest people make money off other people’s mistakes.

"You don't know a woman till you have met her in divorce court."

[…Spectator 1165]

Obviously.

[RoninParticipant 42]

Smacktalk73,

I know that divorce and litigation is nothing more than a business for you. I have myself been through a costly divorce, and I have realized that marriage is pointless, PERIOD!!!. It is easy for you to represent the c~~~ one day and the the bro the next, money/gain is the end result. Do you see MGTOW as the logical and economical result of the high cost of litigation/divorce in the US?

In my experience, I wish that divorce lawyers would push for reason, calm, realistic expectations and not go for every last dime the guy has.  I hope you never experience the hell I went through!

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