misogynist label

[narwhalParticipant]

mi·sog·y·nist -a person who dislikes, despises, or is strongly prejudiced against women.

I’ve noticed in other threads that when we are called a misogynist, we are usually offended or annoyed in some way, even if the label fits to at least some degree. If you’re not a misogynist then what’s the difference between your stance on women and a misogynist’s stance?

Just my opinion, but it seems we don’t want to be labeled a misogynist because of it’s negative connotation, even though it fits. As well, the definition is broad, as there is a huge difference between ‘dislike’ and ‘despise’. I wouldn’t want people to think I despise women when in truth, I only despise several aspect of their nature. A part of me says we should own labels when they fit, but there’s a different part of me that understands what people do once they see a label they can apply to you.

People apply labels like misogynist so they can shame you, usually so that they can guilt you into getting what they want from you.

You’d help me out if you weren’t such a misogynist.

They apply it so they can make assumptions about the parts of you that they don’t know or don’t understand, and thus write off whatever opinion you have that doesn’t sit well with them. It keeps them from having to do a little self examination and consider whether you might actually be correct or not.

You’re just a misogynist, no point in discussing this with you.

It creates a straw man enemy to fight against. A theoretical threat that gives them a reason for giving advantages to women.

I only support women’s causes because of all the misogynists.

Ok. Then do it.

[NerevarParticipant 8040]

I just yawn or smirk whenever someone calls me a misogynist, same goes for “racist”. I mean, I’ve been called a racist asshole because I said I didn’t like a specific black woman. When I added that I prefer white women, they went completely mental, lol. Morons.

"One of the best things internet exposed is just how insane women are." - Freeman_K

[Soldier-MedicParticipant 2566]

narwhal wrote:

even if the label fits to at least some degree.

narwhal wrote:

dislikes women

This implies that I dislike women as an entire species. This would require a level of emotional involvement that I don’t posses.

narwhal wrote:

despises women

Again, the implication is that I despise women as an entire species. If I can’t summon the breadth of feeling to dislike women, how could I summon that same feelings that inspire a bigot to wear bed sheets and dunce caps and burn a cross on a black man’s lawn?

narwhal wrote:

strongly prejudiced against women

Prejudice is the preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience, both of which I do posses.

"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.

[Anonymous 1]

Nerevar wrote:

I’ve been called a racist asshole because I said I didn’t like a specific black woman

I’ve taken grief for refusing to converse with fat women in bars, who clearly think I should be priviledged to have a land whale chewing my ear off.

– You’re a fattist!!

– No luv, you’re fattest.

In this case the generalisation was true, I don’t like fat women.

[narwhalParticipant]

This implies that I dislike women as an entire species. This would require a level of emotional involvement that I don’t posses.

I don’t think that it does have to go that far. If you are indifferent to women you’ve never met, and dislike every one (with few exceptions) that you have met, would that not meet the definition. I also think how you perceive men factors in as well. If you assume a man you’re about to meet is likable, but a woman is not, does that qualify? If you don’t like anybody, then you wouldn’t be a misogynist since you’re dislike isn’t limit to women.

Again, it seems we avoid the label because of the connotation and all that it implies, regardless of whether it fits or not.

Ok. Then do it.

[Anonymous 42]

Just because I believe women should be treated like farm animals doesn’t make me a misogynist! They would be kept monogamous and disease free.

The notion that female empowerment is something good defies all that we’ve seen, their liberation has unleashed untold horrors on this society! Millions, if not billions of man-hours wasted in gynocentric misery!

They’ve more than earned a woman pen next to the pig pen!

F~~~ them, f~~~ their feelings! Their empowerment was spent entirely on the destruction of men and masculinity. Let their f~~~ing cats eat them for all I care…

[DDJParticipant 1880]

narwhal wrote:

mi·sog·y·nist -a person who dislikes, despises, or is strongly prejudiced against women.

I’ve noticed in other threads that when we are called a misogynist, we are usually offended or annoyed in some way, even if the label fits to at least some degree. If you’re not a misogynist then what’s the difference between your stance on women and a misogynist’s stance?

Just my opinion, but it seems we don’t want to be labeled a misogynist because of it’s negative connotation, even though it fits. As well, the definition is broad, as there is a huge difference between ‘dislike’ and ‘despise’. I wouldn’t want people to think I despise women when in truth, I only despise several aspect of their nature. A part of me says we should own labels when they fit, but there’s a different part of me that understands what people do once they see a label they can apply to you.

People apply labels like misogynist so they can shame you, usually so that they can guilt you into getting what they want from you.

You’d help me out if you weren’t such a misogynist.

They apply it so they can make assumptions about the parts of you that they don’t know or don’t understand, and thus write off whatever opinion you have that doesn’t sit well with them. It keeps them from having to do a little self examination and consider whether you might actually be correct or not.

You’re just a misogynist, no point in discussing this with you.

It creates a straw man enemy to fight against. A theoretical threat that gives them a reason for giving advantages to women.

I only support women’s causes because of all the misogynists.

Narwhal

Merriam-Webster defines misogyny as a hatred of women. While I do not speak for any brother other than myself, I do not hate women.

This term is used originally be feminists, to shame men specifically to deflect and avoid responding to any valid issues that men raise to address credibility problems, blatant inconsistencies, and misandry associated with with feminist theories, ideas, and practices.

I’m angry that feminists lie about the existence of the wage gap. When studies have shown that when you account for hours worked, experience on the job, job description, you find that women earn the same, or in white collar professions, often more than men. This misandrist lie is used to shame and harass men.

Fun Fact: The Equal Pay act…which ensured women got the same pay for the same work as men…was signed by the President of the United States in 1963…after going through U.S. Congress. This wage war was won at the very beginning of the Civil Rights years…over 50 years ago.

So what are they really bitching about?

Men account for most workplace injuries and deaths. Further, if there was such a wage gap…why is it that the vast majority of homeless are men?

I’m angry that feminists lie about rape culture. There is no such thing. If a rape culture existed…there would be laws on the books that would prevent rapists from being prosecuted. Unless you’re an evangelical Muslim practicing Sharia Law, these laws don’t exist in modern society. The reason so many men are not filling our prisons at the rate feminists have been claimed to have been raped is because there are too many cases where the “victim’s” story is not credible…or they find she made it up later.

According to the FBI…in 2014, only 38%-39% of rape cases, where the alleged suspect was identified, were prosecuted…because we live in a society that the U.S Constitution mandates innocent until proven guilty, that means…by legal definition…that over 60% of all alleged rape cases reported to police are false or don’t meet the definition of rape…even though this definition was expanded around 2012. It also means every time a man is accused of rape and the victim doesn’t report it to law enforcement…it’s false.

This is why feminists agitated for civil DV laws…because they knew their accusations couldn’t stand close scrutiny, as civil allegations of DV don’t need such a high bar to find a suspect guilty. Further, feminists don’t want to be criminally prosecuted for false allegations…which is a crime in most jurisdictions.

Often as a result of civil DV, men are deprived of their 2nd amendment rights without due process of law…this means that men are entitled to public defenders…yet the courts…using the debunked Duluth DV intervention model…refuse to provide men with meaningful defense against this lowered civil bar of proof.

More importantly, most studies on rape culture…as conducted be feminists, extend the definition of rape well beyond the accepted legal definition, to artificially inflate their numbers until they can falsely demonstrate that rape is as pandemic as the common cold. Not only is this shoddy science…its dishonest. Credible studies have shown that women commit rape and sexual assault almost as often as men…this is not a gender-based issue…it’s misandry based on a lie.

I hate that feminists misrepresent and glamorize single motherhood. Especially when, according to government statistics, children are most likely to be abused in the homes of single mothers…at far higher rates than children in homes where both parents reside together. Credible Studies have shown children are the safest in homes where the biological parent’s relationship remains intact. Further, because most women get useless degrees or take jobs that don’t pay as well as the jobs their men accept..they often cannot support their families after they destroy their relationships…women file over 70% of all divorces in the United States and win child custody 85% of the time…even though single mothers, have a far higher instance of mental health problems…sometimes many father’s attorneys never bring up in court.

You see…even though the above have been shown to be lies and thoroughly debunked…feminists trot them out as though there is some truth to them. When the fact don’t support them…they change the definitions of what they are talking about to reframe them in an effort to stay relevant and continue their misandry of men.

Look up Feminist Quotes. You will find these hags calling for genocide of men…rape of men…hatred of men…violence against men (men have been murdered and assaulted by white knights supporting alleged rape victims, then finding out later these women lied)…and other misandrist motives.

The new Ghostbusters movie did their best to avoid hiring men and bragged about it…this is the face of gender-based prejudice. Those men who applied for those jobs and didn’t get them, should sue for gender-based employment discrimination.

Women get scholarships based on gender…not merit from the League of Women Voters, the National Organization of Women…and others…yet gender based scholarships don’t exist for men. Now women are in college at far higher rates than men, given more support…and graduate more often…getting better paying jobs…men are becoming more and more unemployed and homeless.

Curves…a private business, is a woman only gym. It excludes men…in violation of civil rights laws.

This wouldn’t be allowed to happen if there was a Patriarchal society, as women claim. History debunks this too. Women through history have been leaders of powerful countries and government. Margaret Thatcher, PM of the UK. all the way back to Cleopatra and beyond…there is not oppressive Patriarchy that keeps women oppressed…again history and FACTS show us this is a lie too.

So if you want to own the term misogynist…go for it. However, I’m not a rapist…I’m not a criminal…and I am not a misogynist. I don’t hate women…I hate the feminist lies that many women unwittingly subscribe to because of hypergamy…which also has been proven through studies.

As such, I refuse to white knight women and adopt their false view of me…as a man…nor will I accept guilt by association for crimes and offenses I never have committed. So my message for anyone who wants me to:

Every woman is a slut, if you catch her on the right day.

[BadgerParticipant 2277]

No doubt that the term is used to shame.

However, from the posts from the veteran members I read here, it is not that they hate women, but instead over and over they say that they simply refuse to interact with, respond to, talk to, or correspond with any individual or groups, male or female, who are crazy, stupid, irrational, emotional, immature or irresponsible.

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

I would say I’m apathetic towards women. When I first became MGTOW, I also thought I was a misogynist. But then I realized that I just don’t care. They can run the world. I simply ignore them as much as possible.

[narwhalParticipant]

@ddj, you are correct regarding Merriam-Webster’s definition. I was using the google definition. It’s a shame that they are so different. That would be another reason to dislike labels, it means something different depending on who you ask.

I wasn’t bringing it up to say that I thought anyone’s dislike of women (or just their behavior) was not justified. The statements you gave regarding women, feminism and such are true, and I agree with them.

Really, I find it interesting how everyone avoids the label ‘misogynist’ like the plague, and was trying to discuss why that is so, even if there may be some element of truth to the label. Not surprising, everyone is quick to point out the differences.

Ok. Then do it.

[Anonymous 1]

I resent being called a misogynist. Holding women accountable for their bad behaviour, manipulations, lies, infidelity etc etc doesn’t equate to my hatred of women.

By the same measure this would make me a misandrist, as i also hold any man accountable for such behaviours.

At this point, ‘Misandry’ and ‘Misogyny’ lose their meaning – they’re no longer associated with gender.

[DDJParticipant 1880]

Narwhal,

They invite this label because being able to label something vitriolic makes it easier for the masses to shame them.

No one wants to be called a rapist. Further, you don’t see rapists acting like…lets take back this term and coopt it as something positive. You can’t, because by definition, being a rapist is bad.

The same is true for misogynist…murderers…frauds…liars…sluts and whores.

Women tried to take the word slut back and own it…it terrifically and humorously failed…and gave us a chance to see women objectify and debase themselves publicly through slut walks in ways men would never condone.

Every woman is a slut, if you catch her on the right day.

[AttonParticipant]

Misogyny takes too much effort.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[the roadParticipant 3125]

I am not a misogynist. I have a lot of respect for both men and women and I have female friends. I also have a lot of contempt for men or women who act like morons, such as 3rd wave feminists.

I am choosing to not get married and to not have (anymore) children. I am choosing to retain my sovereignty and to not get myself into situations where the laws favor the female gender and where I will be punished for something that I didn’t have a choice in, which was being born male.

That does not make me a misogynist and until the laws are fair and balanced, that’s the way it will be. To be honest, at this point, even if the laws magically changed overnight I don’t think I would change my stance. I’m almost 40, the current state of the female culture is unappealing to me, and it seems easier to just avoid it and focus on living a fulfilling life for myself instead of being a wallet for someone else.

I can’t even fathom how badly I would feel as a father if I let a woman extract wealth from me and my son by way of divorce. Hypothetically, how could I explain to him that I can’t afford his education or clothing because his step mother decided to steal our money after her and I divorced?

#MANOUT

[Anonymous 3]

I’m an open misogynist. That’s what I’d always tell women when they’d show interest in me, I was saving them from me.

Never worked though, only seemed to make them more interested and they’d passionately argue with anyone (mostly men) that would claim I was a misogynist.

Like most things when it comes to women, they are s~~~ testing and hate a man that fails their test and love a man that beats it.

By insisting you “don’t hate women” and showing submissiveness by specious claims like “it takes too much effort” or otherwise defensive language, you are falling into their trap and emasculating yourself. Doesn’t much matter for MGTOW, over here you don’t need to impress us, and out in the real world it’s a good way to fly under the radar, but there is no need for you to actually believe it and tiptoe around women and gynocracy when you’re here. Being free and open builds masculinity and is better for your personal happiness.

I will be open about it, I hate snakes, I hate bankers, I hate politicians, I hate oligarchs and yes I hate women. Outside of the former, especially in only the literal sense, all of these groups like to take liberties with people but hate being exposed and having you act the same way to them as they do to you. Evil hates good and uses nefarious schemes, but will have a meltdown when good turns its gaze on it. That is why women fight so hard not to let men hate them for their actions, it’s because women hate men and if both sexes hate each other, then women’s power fails. Same way for all those other classes, if everyone was suspicious and avoided interaction with those groups, they lose.

[Anonymous 11]

I am not a misogynist. I dislike feminists and manginas equally.

I admit that I don’t fully trust women. Even women that I fully trust for some things have facets where I do not trust them. I hate what they as a group and their enablers have done and are doing to society. Women are just a tool for the oligarchs.

If calling women out on their bulls~~~ makes one a misogynist these days then so be it.

[The_Mad_PirateParticipant 1278]

Honestly, I don’t give a f~~~ anymore if a female of the species thinks i am misogynist or not.
In fact is very simple, I know myself, and I know wether I do hate women or not, so, why should I care what other people think ?. In the end, it’s their problem , not mine. While those people stick to the mutual respect principle of live and let live, I have no issue with whatever fairy tale they made up in their heads. It’s only when they start messing with my life that i would react and give hell upon them, not for what they think but for what they do i.e. sticking their noses where other people’s lifes.

"We didn't start the fire. It was always burning. Since the world's been turning" "A world that vilifies men only breeds a generation of men that feel no empathy towards women" “In a woman’s mind , there is really no such thing as a ‘we’. In her eyes, earth allways revolves around her, not the other way around. So thinking that your needs , aspirations or desires are valid enough to be persued, or even that you are entitled achive such goals, is like asking your boss for a pay rise in your very first day at the job.”

[mp357Participant 531]

f~~~ labels, call it what you want, f~~~ womens feelings, they always have something to whine about, and hating or disliking something requires zero “effort” . iam a racist misogynist homophobe, dont care if it bothers anyone

[CPT ObviousParticipant 2727]

This word, like many other labels, has become a shaming hammer to pound home the feminist, progressive agenda.

Point out feminist hypocrisy or BS?
You’re a misogynist.

Don’t agree with everything BlackLivesMatters says?
You’re a racist.

Concerned about a big influx of military-aged, male Muslim “refugees”?
You’re a xenophobe.

Raise an objection to “female identifying” boy wanting to change in a girl’s high school locker room?
You’re a bigot.

Stating that salary should be based on merit not govt mandated quotas?
You’re a sexist.

Ask a girl on a date and she is not interested?
You’re a rapist.

Post a comment disagreeing with a progressive?
You’re a bully.

And the list goes on and on — words being redefined and new terms like “fat shaming” and “white privilege” being created by the feminist progressives. All of them shaming cards to be played over and over again to remake the world in their image.

"You don't know a woman till you have met her in divorce court."

[Zuberi TauParticipant 10606]

Translation: If you don’t bow and scrape for mentally challenged land whales nor provide good for nothing trollops with free money, then you’re a misogynist.

No f~~~s given!

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