Minority Report

[narwhalParticipant]

Watching the new and some of the laws and changes the feminists and SJWs want done these days got me thinking. Like in the movie ‘Minority Report’, it’s not about punishing crimes, but preventing potential crimes.

Take equal pay for equal work. There’s no way to really measure equal work, but because it’s possible for someone to have sexist hiring practices, we need to punish anything like it could be that.

We have to train all men not to be rapist, because they all could be. And sure she could be lying about being raped, but we have to believe her and punish him just in case.

Men can’t be allowed to manspread, because it’s a behavior that might mean he’s not good to women. We got to punish him. He can’t catcall at all, because that’s an indication that he might not be a good dude.

We can’t have a police force that isn’t racial diverse, because there’s a chance they may not do their job without prejudice. We want to get rid of guns because of what someone might do with it.

We want to try so hard to remove any risk from life that we make life s~~~ty, and we fail to punish those that are actually causing harm to others.

Ok. Then do it.

[NewgroundsParticipant 558]

It’s what you can expect if you live in a society that enjoys great deals of peace and comfort, they feel the need to destroy tradition and freedom in order to create safe spaces and create gulags for the “intolerant”. What’s great is that liberals claim to be the primary advocates of tolerance yet they’re the most intolerant and want to censor or lockup anyone who disagrees with them. What they really want is for men to be guilty until proven innocent and they’ll sell out anyone’s freedom to free themselves from critical thinking or hard decisions.

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[narwhalParticipant]

I think it goes beyond ‘guilty till proven innocent’. That guy she slept with and then regretted…he has to be punished so that she feels no guilt about what she did. They honestly make no attempt to consider that he’s innocent, whether it be proven or just speculation.

I get that it would a great place if you could walk out in the morning knowing nothing s~~~ting is going to happen to you, even if you manage to crap on yourself by your own stupid decisions. But life has it’s consequences…or at least it should.

Ok. Then do it.

[mp357Participant 531]

we live in the safest time ever known to man. liberals and sjw’s think it needs to be safer and safer to the point of complete castration. this is what happens after decades of female voting patterns and its only getting worse.

[RoyDalParticipant]

mp357 wrote:

we live in the safest time ever known to man. liberals and sjw’s think it needs to be safer and safer to the point of complete castration. this is what happens after decades of female voting patterns and its only getting worse.

Yep. The human race has never had it better than the years from the end of World War Two and now. I dislike seeing it all destroyed, but I am powerless to prevent it.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[RennieParticipant]

RoyDal wrote:

Yep. The human race has never had it better than the years from the end of World War Two and now. I dislike seeing it all destroyed, but I am powerless to prevent it.

I doubt there will ever be a time like it ever again either.

[Anonymous 24]

Newgrounds wrote:

It’s what you can expect if you live in a society that enjoys great deals of peace and comfort, they feel the need to destroy tradition and freedom in order to create safe spaces and create gulags for the “intolerant”. What’s great is that liberals claim to be the primary advocates of tolerance yet they’re the most intolerant and want to censor or lockup anyone who disagrees with them. What they really want is for men to be guilty until proven innocent and they’ll sell out anyone’s freedom to free themselves from critical thinking or hard decisions.

Interesting statements that completely contradict your views on Marijuana. You would like to keep it illegal and punish those who do not have the same beliefs about it as as you do.

[The Moth Attracted to the FlameParticipant 2982]

Steven Spielberg himself even said that he would not want a system like the one in Minority Report to take place because he knows people will abuse it. Just like they abuse everything they touch.

[NewgroundsParticipant 558]

Anonymous wrote:

Newgrounds wrote:

It’s what you can expect if you live in a society that enjoys great deals of peace and comfort, they feel the need to destroy tradition and freedom in order to create safe spaces and create gulags for the “intolerant”. What’s great is that liberals claim to be the primary advocates of tolerance yet they’re the most intolerant and want to censor or lockup anyone who disagrees with them. What they really want is for men to be guilty until proven innocent and they’ll sell out anyone’s freedom to free themselves from critical thinking or hard decisions.

Interesting statements that completely contradict your views on Marijuana. You would like to keep it illegal and punish those who do not have the same beliefs about it as as you do.

Now That’s just a strawman argument on your part, you’re taking my views on being against recreational use and stretching them very far by saying I want to lock up people who smoke weed. I made it clear that I don’t care about people who smoke weed either legally or illegally but I’m personally against recreational use. Just because I don’t ally with stoner culture and the appeal to nature fallacy doesn’t mean I’m advocating jail time for anyone who smokes it, I made it crystal clear that I don’t care. You’re guilty of 2 logical fallacies here.

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[MichaelSpectator 544]

This is extremely scary. You need to remove the Constitution to accomplish this. The question is: are most people as they exist in America today, meek and stupid enough to allow it.

[Anonymous 24]

Newgrounds wrote:

Now That’s just a straw man argument on your part, you’re taking my views on being against recreational use and stretching them very far by saying I want to lock up people who smoke weed. I made it clear that I don’t care about people who smoke weed either legally or illegally but I’m personally against recreational use. Just because I don’t ally with stoner culture and the appeal to nature fallacy doesn’t mean I’m advocating jail time for anyone who smokes it, I made it crystal clear that I don’t care.

Um, where did I say you wanted to lock them up? I was saying that you want to punish those who use it recreationally. How else can one view your stance on wanting it to be illegal? The very definition of that means punishment of some sort… What I am saying is you want to keep something illegal, that was once legal when we had freedoms in this country. And you just expressed upset about freedoms being taken away and people wanting others to be censored and locked up because people did not agree with them. This is not a straw man argument, it is sound logic. You just argued against freedoms being taken away, yet you side with them being taken away when it is something you do not agree with. Perfectly sound contradiction I am pointing out on your part.

Newgrounds wrote:

It’s what you can expect if you live in a society that enjoys great deals of peace and comfort, they feel the need to destroy tradition and freedom in order to create safe spaces and create gulags for the “intolerant”. What’s great is that liberals claim to be the primary advocates of tolerance yet they’re the most intolerant and want to censor or lockup anyone who disagrees with them. What they really want is for men to be guilty until proven innocent and they’ll sell out anyone’s freedom to free themselves from critical thinking or hard decisions.

Once again, you are against freedom. You are intolerant. You are fine with oppression if it is something that you do not agree with, yet you complain about it when the tables are turned. I think there is a word for this, it is Hypocrite.

Just so you know where I am coming from, I am no Liberal, I am a Libertarian.

[NewgroundsParticipant 558]

Anonymous wrote:

Newgrounds wrote:

Now That’s just a straw man argument on your part, you’re taking my views on being against recreational use and stretching them very far by saying I want to lock up people who smoke weed. I made it clear that I don’t care about people who smoke weed either legally or illegally but I’m personally against recreational use. Just because I don’t ally with stoner culture and the appeal to nature fallacy doesn’t mean I’m advocating jail time for anyone who smokes it, I made it crystal clear that I don’t care.

Um, where did I say you wanted to lock them up? I was saying that you want to punish those who use it recreationally. How else can one view your stance on wanting it to be illegal? The very definition of that means punishment of some sort… What I am saying is you want to keep something illegal, that was once legal when we had freedoms in this country. And you just expressed upset about freedoms being taken away and people wanting others to be censored and locked up because people did not agree with them. This is not a straw man argument, it is sound logic. You just argued against freedoms being taken away, yet you side with them being taken away when it is something you do not agree with. Perfectly sound contradiction I am pointing out on your part.

Newgrounds wrote:

It’s what you can expect if you live in a society that enjoys great deals of peace and comfort, they feel the need to destroy tradition and freedom in order to create safe spaces and create gulags for the “intolerant”. What’s great is that liberals claim to be the primary advocates of tolerance yet they’re the most intolerant and want to censor or lockup anyone who disagrees with them. What they really want is for men to be guilty until proven innocent and they’ll sell out anyone’s freedom to free themselves from critical thinking or hard decisions.

Once again, you are against freedom. You are intolerant. You are fine with oppression if it is something that you do not agree with, yet you complain about it when the tables are turned. I think there is a word for this, it is Hypocrite.

Just so you know where I am coming from, I am no Liberal, I am a Libertarian.

You quite plainly said I wanted to keep it illegal and PUNISH (the only way they’d be punished is with legal action) those who don’t share my beliefs and I proved you wrong on that? Just because I’m against recreational drug use doesn’t mean I’m against freedom that’s an incredibly weak argument and it’s counterproductive.

That is a text book example of a strawman argument, I simply don’t agree with recreational drug use, if you’re going to make the argument of intolerance then I can quickly counter that weak claim with another weak claim of intolerance against you for trying to throw labels against my opinion. It’s quite simple you don’t agree with me I don’t agree with you, I don’t think I have a 1up on you but if you think that about me then I’d prefer not to hear it because I couldn’t care less. To lay this down as simply as possible I don’t care about weed at all or who smokes it, I’m simply against recreational use. This is such an insignificant thing to make a fuss about but for you to paint me as someone who is anti-freedom because I’m against recreational use on a drug is completely ridiculous and you obviously have a very strong bias on the grounds you’re pro-weed.

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[Anonymous 24]

Cannabis Legalization

In this thread, you are clearly against legalization. You say, and I quote “I am 100% in agreement with Jack” And when one reads what Jack says, and you agree with, it is clear you are 100% for it to be illegal outside of medicinal uses. You are for punishing people who do not agree with you. You are for censoring and punishing those who would like to exercise freedoms they once had that have been taken away from them by those who do not agree with them, i.e. you, and those like you. By having something be illegal, that, by default means you want those punished for using it. My argument stands.

Good day sir-

[NewgroundsParticipant 558]

Anonymous wrote:

Cannabis Legalization

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In this thread, you are clearly against legalization. You say, and I quote “I am 100% in agreement with Jack” And when one reads what Jack says, and you agree with, it is clear you are 100% for it to be illegal. You are for punishing people who do not agree with you. You are for censoring and punishing those who would like to exercise freedoms they once had that have been taken away from them by those who do not agree with them, i.e. you, and those like you. By having something be illegal, that, by default means you want those punished for using it. My argument stands.

Good day sir-

I never said I wasn’t against legalization, the strawman argument was because you tried to claim I wanted people locked up or punished there’s no way you’d be capable of knowing my intent or my reasons so it’s a terrible argument and you try to say it stands. That whole thread is about someone who needed it for medical reasons and I’m totally in favor of that. It’s a joke you can’t even accept an opposing view without making an appeal to emotion, you’re now guilty of 3 logical fallacies. There is no “by default” it’s simply a result and that’s a guilt bait. It’s alright to have someone that doesn’t agree with you, just because I happened to be someone who didn’t agree with you doesn’t mean you start bringing that insignificant drivel to other threads I happen to post on. You made a crude remark and attempted discredit my viewpoint on this thread because I didn’t agree with you on another, That’s just baiting for drama I thought we were men why bait for drama (woman alert ;^]). I can’t stress how little I care, I hold nothing against you all I ask is you let it go and forget about it and never bring drama into unrelated threads again.

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[Anonymous 24]

The thread is about Cannabis Legalization, not medical Marijuana specifically. You say, and I quote “I’m against the recreational use of cannabis” You also agree with Jack, someone who is vehemently against Cannabis being legal, and I quote once again “I completely agree with Jack on this 100% in every way. I couldn’t have said it better myself” I am not sure why you keep saying I said anything about locking people up. All one needs to do is to scroll up and they can see that your are making s~~~ up. Your straw man nonsense is just that, nonsense. My points above are solid, none of which are based on emotion, as you claim in your straw man theory, they are all based on facts. You are for policing something that was once the choice of every free man to use or not, including many of our founding fathers, yet you chastise others for suppressing the free will of others in this very thread.

I quote you again-

“It’s what you can expect if you live in a society that enjoys great deals of peace and comfort, they feel the need to destroy tradition and freedom in order to create safe spaces and create gulags for the “intolerant”. What’s great is that liberals claim to be the primary advocates of tolerance yet they’re the most intolerant and want to censor or lockup anyone who disagrees with them. What they really want is for men to be guilty until proven innocent and they’ll sell out anyone’s freedom to free themselves from critical thinking or hard decisions.”

It is ok in life to actually see an error in logic, or in this case illogic, and come to terms with it, this is called learning. I have no more responses for you. If you can’t see it, I cannot help you.

Sorry to derail your thread a little Narwhal. Minority Report was a great movie, and I agree with the points you made. I love dystopian movies, have a shelf or two filled with them right next to me…

[Anonymous 24]

narwhal wrote:

We want to try so hard to remove any risk from life that we make life s~~~ty, and we fail to punish those that are actually causing harm to others.

This is basically the point I was trying to make with Newgrounds in this and the Cannabis thread.

[NewgroundsParticipant 558]

Anonymous wrote:

The thread is about Cannabis Legalization, not medical Marijuana specifically. You say, and I quote “I’m against the recreational use of cannabis” You also agree with Jack, someone who is vehemently against Cannabis being legal, and I quote once again “I completely agree with Jack on this 100% in every way. I couldn’t have said it better myself” I am not sure why you keep saying I said anything about locking people up. All one needs to do is to scroll up and they can see that your are making s~~~ up. Your straw man nonsense is just that, nonsense. My points above are solid, none of which are based on emotion, as you claim in your straw man theory, they are all based on facts. You are for policing something that was once the choice of every free man to use or not, including many of our founding fathers, yet you chastise others for suppressing the free will of others in this very thread.

I quote you again-

“It’s what you can expect if you live in a society that enjoys great deals of peace and comfort, they feel the need to destroy tradition and freedom in order to create safe spaces and create gulags for the “intolerant”. What’s great is that liberals claim to be the primary advocates of tolerance yet they’re the most intolerant and want to censor or lockup anyone who disagrees with them. What they really want is for men to be guilty until proven innocent and they’ll sell out anyone’s freedom to free themselves from critical thinking or hard decisions.”

It is ok in life to actually see an error in logic, or in this case illogic, and come to terms with it, this is called learning. I have no more responses for you. If you can’t see it, I cannot help you.

Sorry to derail your thread a little Narwhal. Minority Report was a great movie, and I agree with the points you made. I love dystopian movies, have a shelf or two filled with them right next to me…

I never said I wasn’t against legalization, as for the lockup comments I made it clear in my screen cap above on how you used the word PUNISH. Do not try and pull a double meaning on me. Don’t start with that condescending tone meaning that if I don’t agree with you I’m guilty of being illogical. I enjoy the fact that you’re now saying you’re done replying after you typed essays about this. You’ve been arguing this as a slippery slope which is another fallacy. You’re whole argument has been “Newgrounds believes A which means he an advocate for B and C” meaning that since I’m against recreational use=A I must be an advocate for Anti-freedom=B and an Intolerant hypocrite=C and that’s solely based on your weak argument and worthless opinion. I said it more than once that I care very little since anyone who wants to smoke finds it one way or another either legally or illegally. The strawman argument on your side still stands and it isn’t a “theory”, there was no way you could ever know my intent so when you attempt to stretch my views to appeal to emotion in this case GUILT I dismiss it as total garbage.

Anonymous wrote:

narwhal wrote:

We want to try so hard to remove any risk from life that we make life s~~~ty, and we fail to punish those that are actually causing harm to others.

This is basically the point I was trying to make with Newgrounds in this and the Cannabis thread.

That was the point you were trying to make? Sorry that’s such a weak argument since you’re high jacking the meaning of his words to benefit your views on me especially since the topic of this thread has nothing to do with the Cannabis thread. I didn’t know being a bitch and undermining my opinions and views on this thread because I said something you didn’t agree with on another was leading to that point. How pathetic, you’re attempting to justify your rude and baseless remarks against me by quoting someone else after you gave your last words. I already told you to let it go and explained how little I cared yet you C~~~inued with your drama .

What a terrible apology you gave Narwhal you bring drama into his thread say all you wanted to say and when you feel satisfied and quenched you apologize? If you felt so strongly you could’ve sent me a pm or at the very least you could have kept it in the thread it was relevant to, Instead you PMSed and brought drama into this thread which is a BITCH move. One of the main things I enjoy about these threads is that behavior like yours isn’t common. You’re the only one I’ve seen so far. I’ll say this one more time since you probably didn’t get it the first time, Never bring drama into unrelated threads again It’s a total bitch thing to do.I wouldn’t put it past you to attack Jack if he ever posts anything about freedom because your PMS will get the best of you. I’m willing to forget this exchange happened, if you feel the need to PMS at me again do it in pm don’t make a spectacle and cause drama and ruin other people’s threads.

|Right Wing Death Squad| Swallowed both Red Pills /pol/MGTOW

[Anonymous 24]

You live in an alternate reality. Jack got torched in that thread. His use of logic is non-existent, and you agreed with everything he said. You said you were against recreational use of Cannabis, and you agreed with someone 100% who was vehemently against it being legal. You are/were clearly against it being legal for recreational use. I made the mistake of calling you out in this thread, that I admit, I should have done it in the other thread, lesson learned. I thought it would have been much less B.S. than this, my mistake for not realizing just how demented you are. I pointed out hypocrisy on your part, and it is you who have been a bitch about it, not I. It could have been over in one or two short responses, but you are like a boxer punching the air even after you have been knocked out and are sprawled out on the canvas. Hike up your skirt and try to be a man in life when others point out hypocrisy, it really is just that simple.

[NewgroundsParticipant 558]

You keep adding the fact that i’m against recreational use as a jab against me, I never said I wasn’t and I couldn’t care less if you agree with my view or not or if you think you’re right. I’m not here to argue a case for something I hardly care about I simply gave my opinion and you gave yours they didn’t coincide end of discussion. Now if you want to continue claiming your opinion is superior to mine and want to argue towards that narrative I invite you to pm me. In the mean time quit your bitching and high jacking of this thread. I said it twice already, if you want to keep bitching say it in PM quit bringing drama into threads, you already admitted it was wrong to bring it into this thread.

Since I called you out for being a drama queen you want to try and pull a reverse and make me the bitch? Sorry man but the “I know you are but what am I” approach are as shallow are your rude remarks above. “hike up my skirt” what skirt man? I met your fallacy filled remarks with my reason and told you that you were full of s~~~ and to knock off the drama.

You said that this should’ve been over in one or two short responses? The only way that was going to happen is if I told you that you were right, since I had no problem dragging you off that high horse and telling you no and that you are full of s~~~ we ended up at this point, I already knew we’d never get along after I saw you act like a total idiot and dickhead on Lottery’s thread about Islam to the point where you started claiming keymaster had a small penis. You’re a juvenile high horsed moron and I don’t want to hear your crap anymore, if you want to throw you crap at me still say it in pm.

Show me you’re a man of your word, quit the complaining in this thread. If you want to continue this worthless discussion PM me, Or you can show me how much of a little girl you are and keep typing in this thread. The choice is yours.

|Right Wing Death Squad| Swallowed both Red Pills /pol/MGTOW

[Anonymous 24]

Newgrounds wrote:

You keep adding the fact that i’m against recreational use as a jab against me, I never said I wasn’t.

I can’t even make sense of your first few words. You are clearly against it being legal for recreational use in this thread at the very top of page 2

Cannabis Legalization

If you are saying that yes, you are indeed against it being legal for recreational use, then what the f~~~ have we been going back and forth for? Your contradiction and hypocrisy are transparent, why do you keep fighting?

Once again, you also agreed “100 percent with everything Jack said” And he was vehemently against any sort of legalization.

In Lottery’s thread, he refused to address any points I made, and even misread some of the stuff I wrote, even admitted it himself, and that did not help much at all. As far as bringing up that thread, you are just creating more drama instead of admitting to what I have pointed out. This is called diversion.

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