MIGTOW calulator needed stat

[shovelheadriderParticipant 2400]

Some men just can not put it together.Traditional role,shaming and being used to getting short end of stick by large margin. There are programs in Migtow that will build a spread sheet where info can be entered and bottom like can be read
example
Money put in _____ She put in__________
labor value ______ Her __________
Security/mechanic /yard man/garbage man/plumber/carpenter etc
Her labor value(if any as all or done at will not exspected)_________________
rooms you have control over His______ Hers________
I know this is in the weeds a bit ,but you get picture.I see lots of men and I want to ask what do you get out of this as sex is often not in picture.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Barbarossa did a great video about “commensurate exchange“. It is permanently in my memory and I quote:

“As a business owner or employee, when I provide a service, I expect to be compensated to a degree that is COMMENSURATE with the value of that service.”

( I even said that word-for-word in a job interview years ago, when I was asked “what are your salary requirements?” )

Women actually speak and behave like dating her is a “job”.
Or even worse, that he should PAY to do that job.
And they don’t even mention salary, vacation time or benefits!

So every man needs to do that calculation.
For what she expects from a man, he can (and should) expect commensurate compensation.

ANOTHER CLASSIC EXAMPLE:
http://www.snopes.com/love/dating/golddigger.asp

A lot of it (if not all of it) boils down to a simple expected exchange of sex for resources.

OK.

Is that COMMENSURATE???

When a man sits down and really does the math, he’s not gonna like what he sees.

$25,000 for an engagement ring??? do you know how many sandwiches that is? And that’s just to KNEEL DOWN and ask for permission to love her until death? How high on crack would a woman have to be to expect that s~~~.

Allow me to whip out the MGTOW calculator:

2-3 months salary in after tax savings – regardless of level of income – is more than 5000 hours of a working man’s life. A little over a year. After one year, if you save 2-3 months salary after taxes and expenses, you’re doing very well — better than the vast majority.

Assuming making a sammich takes 5 minutes.
That’s 60,000 sammiches she would have to make for you.

SIXTY. THOUSAND. SANDWICHES.
( And that’s assuming you consider sandwiches “commensurate compensation”. )

Your “loving wife” would have to make you a sandwich every day for 164.38 years. Just to be even with the ring. And you can EXPECT that from her. Or 3 sammiches per day – every day – during a marriage lasting 55 years.

Men don’t need calculators. We can do the math in our heads.
WOMEN need calculators to figure out just how ridiculous they really are.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[shovelheadriderParticipant 2400]

I do not get where the real good guys,are the men got tricked. There did not receive the “implied” benefits.These men were shamed to not come right out and ask like I did three times what is in it for me. Each time I asked;I know what you expect from me.If I do all this what do I get? Each time the only answer was ” You get me”. This was the talking part and no more questions were to be answered.I asked further,what does that mean or include? I am 0 for 3 in finding out “You get me means” other than the what I knew.She would be a recipient of largess.
These men find out that they are in contract with some one that will not hold up their side.They suck it up and keep up or man up as it is said by fems.These Fems just cant find a man.Women are having trouble finding a perfect man that will except all her short comings and ruthfulness

[MattNYCParticipant 2329]

Not exactly what you’re looking for, but similar. I calculated

$440 Cost per lay while i was married/dating, including cost of the divorce, vs
$250 Cost per lay with pros

a while back: /forums/topic/fact-women-make-you-poor/. All told divorce cost me 45% of my net worth at the time, and it was the easiest divorce anyone had every heard of.

This is actually a favorable comparison. Other calculations i’ve seen put the cost per orgasm of sex while married in to the $1000s range. Ugh.

[Mr. SpockParticipant 10968]

shovelheadrider wrote:

“You get me”.

That means you get “her” which includes her whining, bitching, nagging, laziness, shortfalls, problems, drama, in-laws, debts, children (if applicable), exes, and divorce papers once she feels that she has offered you ample compensation for having “her”.

She's not looking for love. She's looking for someone to finance the lifestyle that SHE thinks SHE deserves.

[shovelheadriderParticipant 2400]

Keymaster wrote:

Men don’t need calculators. We can do the math in our heads.

in some men it is the lack of ability to act.We all have heard these men.I am not going to marry her,I am going to kick her out,I am going to leave and nothing,he stay with her and buys her gifts and beg forgiveness not being sensitive her Peggy Bundy’s mothers qualities. I guess it’s like color blindness the bottom line is in a light spectrum they just can’t read.

[shovelheadriderParticipant 2400]

Mr. Spock wrote:

compensation for having “her

I know i spent too much.She looked good we played pool,the juke box drowned her voice out
I had her until daylight did we part for $1 beer night and motel 6 and an egg mc muffin on way back to her car.
$100 in 2008 dollars

[RoyDalParticipant]

shovelheadrider wrote:

I do not get where the real good guys,are the men got tricked.

Hormones.

No one who thinks with his brain gets fooled into marriage. Without our instinctual hormone driven urges — and our blind obedience to them — the human race would have been extinct long ago.

Does anyone think a praying mantis male wants his head ripped off? Of course he doesn’t!! Nevertheless, off with his head is what happens every mating season.

So when the Red Queen says, “off with his head,” ask yourself where is the Red King? Hint: He is not in the land of the living.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[TuneoutParticipant]

MattNYC wrote:

$440 Cost per lay while i was married/dating, including cost of the divorce, vs
$250 Cost per lay with pros

Exactly and not only cheaper but BETTER , the good ones will give you a GFE (girl friend experience) and make you feel like a f~~~ing king better than ANY g/f or wife you’ve ever had,guranteed!

Bonus-she won’t bug ya ’till the next time you call

Lifes a bitch,but you don't have to marry one!

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