MGTOW'S Should not take part in military service. Explosive topic.

[TYEParticipant 291]

Good for you Squid, the Military is just like any other job, and should never be seen as anything more. Does it require dedication, and respect for the job…sure it does nobody in the civilian world stay’s employed long if they don’t respect the job. No offense to anyone here, but all that fighting for a corrupt government stuff is B.S. You’re benefiting the government every time you go to work, but you just don’t know it. You don’t need to join the Military for the government to freeload off you. You have a better chance of getting killed in the civilian world than you do in the Military. I would never trust an American civilian (MGTOW brothers being the exception of course 😀 ) did you read the story about the 15 year old shooting up a base. Every time I see one of our troops on the news dead it’s because of some mentally disturbed American. Something has seriously went wrong with this countries citizens mentally, and only a red pill mind can see that. My “fellow” American citizens are my enemy not some guy overseas that can’t even reach me, the people I see walking the streets everyday are the real threat to my MGTOW being.

[BigDParticipant 3025]

I say join.  Do the best job you can.  Don’t f~~~ the slime that joins or hangs around the barracks.  Learn your job the best you can.  Don’t worry about making rank, just learn your job.  Be the go to guy to make s~~~ happen with your job.  Then when you get out and have job interviews, it’s guys like me that are interviewing you.  If you don’t know your job, I don’t care what rank you were, I’m not hiring you.  If you know your s~~~, welcome aboard.

Don't stick your dick into anyone you aren't willing to put up with for eighteen years and nine months.

[Cipher HighwindParticipant 1144]

“Service” implies being a “servant”, which is beneath a free man.

[berlihingenParticipant 2]

Everything depends on the attitude – if you feel humiliated, then you actually are humiliated. I remember my ‘service’ in what on your side of the ocean call “seals” as a great adventure, and in fact – it is a big question – who served whom. I’m absolutely sure that I got more fun, than they. Less of these “never” and “not take part” – more freedom on your own way.

[Cipher HighwindParticipant 1144]

No, it does not.  The master has been beneath the servant for all of recorded history, but being in the military is even lowlier than being a servant in a house; it is much closer to temporary serfdom or indentured servitude.  Furthermore, most of the “pay” is post-dated in the form of benefits that will not likely materialise as the Washington regime is bankrupted many times over.

“Everything depends on attitude”, “who served whom”, what did I do to warrant such hogwash in a reply?

[Anonymous 43]

War is the ultimate human failure.

Peace is the ultimate human delusion.

Strife is a continuing human dilemma.

 

[berlihingenParticipant 2]

No, it does not. The master has been beneath the servant for all of recorded history, but being in the military is even lowlier than being a servant in a house; it is much closer to temporary serfdom or indentured servitude. Furthermore, most of the “pay” is post-dated in the form of benefits that will not likely materialise as the Washington regime is bankrupted many times over.

“Everything depends on attitude”, “who served whom”, what did I do to warrant such hogwash in a reply?

Kid, fact that you’re able to post this hogwash means that you aren’t on a desert island. So, you already serve in many ways – at least to buy a PC, to pay optics and pizza, – and all this s~~~ includes taxes, so you do serve the Washington regime (unlike me – I have no relation to it). So restrain your leftist-romantic ardor: there is no absolute freedom in this galaxy, which means… “Everything depends on attitude” and “who served whom”

[Cipher HighwindParticipant 1144]

Kid, your argument presupposes I do not take more tax revenue than I pay.  I make it a point to cost said regime as much as possible.  Just because many lack the cleverness necessary to avoid wave slavery does not mean it is impossible.

 

berlihingen wrote:

No, it does not. The master has been beneath the servant for all of recorded history, but being in the military is even lowlier than being a servant in a house; it is much closer to temporary serfdom or indentured servitude. Furthermore, most of the “pay” is post-dated in the form of benefits that will not likely materialise as the Washington regime is bankrupted many times over. “Everything depends on attitude”, “who served whom”, what did I do to warrant such hogwash in a reply?

Kid, fact that you’re able to post this hogwash means that you aren’t on a desert island. So, you already serve in many ways – at least to buy a PC, to pay optics and pizza, – and all this s~~~ includes taxes, so you do serve the Washington regime (unlike me – I have no relation to it). So restrain your leftist-romantic ardor: there is no absolute freedom in this galaxy, which means… “Everything depends on attitude” and “who served whom”

[berlihingenParticipant 2]

Kids, I knew that there would be a decent share of lego fighters, who attribute themselves to the MGTOW just to veil their fear of women or gunshots. I see them enough off-line, – they are easily recognized by an exaggerated pathos and “towards the storm” hairdo, – and not going to waste my humble English (and even more modest Google Translator) in discussion with them on-line.
So relax, my romantic heroes, I’m sure one day you’ll find a warm and safe c~~~ in a quiet neighborhood – good luck with that.

[mgtow_85Participant 752]

I am a former squad leader from the U.S. Army Engineers, in a combat engineer unit. I served, did my time, and fortunately, I was in a unit that was exclusively for men. In 2004, women were not allowed to be combat engineers, so I didn’t have any female squad-mates or subordinates p~~~ing in my sandbox and giving me any s~~~.

However after I got out, I realized just how lucky I am.

The military is strangely unsympathetic to it’s members who are being f~~~ed over in a divorce and they let civilian law dominate everything. Military members will come home from the Middle East and be immediately thrown in jail for non-payment of child support because their wife cleaned out the house, bank accounts, left the poor guy twisting in the wind, and then he’s in jail as a thank you for his service because he got slammed with non-payment of child support that she stuck him with.

Another guy, a Navy man, was given a bench warrant for his arrest because the courts in Seattle gave him 48 hours to appear for his divorce trial, and being as he is a submariner deep under the waters of the Pacific more than 10,000 miles away and no opportunity to make home port on such short notice, it was quite obvious that he wasn’t going to make it on time, and the military was unsympathetic.

The military personnel who put their f~~~ing lives on the line for this country are given no special treatment even due to the nature of the unloyalties of more than 75 percent of military wives who are just marrying the guy in the first place so she can suck off the tit of Uncle Sam with all the benefits that are offered to military families.

And I will not serve in a military today where the men are disrespected and thrown into civilian jails the moment they set foot in the States after a year of hell in Iraq/Afghanistan. These men have lost good friends, have been through so much, and then in the first 24 hours being back, they’re made to wish that they never survived as the handcuffs get slapped on their wrists.

Yes, serving in the military only seems to be for the benefit of women. If that wasn’t true, then military wives wouldn’t be given so many extra opportunities to f~~~ over these men in uniform with all those benefits.

[Cipher HighwindParticipant 1144]

Kid, I will not be cowed by shaming language, specifically charges of cowardice (code yellow).  I do not need to tell you where you can shove the balderdash in the below-quoted post:

berlihingen wrote:

Kids, I knew that there would be a decent share of lego fighters, who attribute themselves to the MGTOW just to veil their fear of women or gunshots. I see them enough off-line, – they are easily recognized by an exaggerated pathos and “towards the storm” hairdo, – and not going to waste my humble English (and even more modest Google Translator) in discussion with them on-line. So relax, my romantic heroes, I’m sure one day you’ll find a warm and safe c~~~ in a quiet neighborhood – good luck with that.

[Anonymous 2]

With Cipher on this one. I have always figured that soldiers were tools, to be sacrificed in a war that mainly benefits a a few individuals rich enough to let the killing be done for them.

 

 

[J.D SilvernailParticipant 383]

I don’t need slutty women. Go hack some other country besides the USA. But don’t tell me who or who not to work for.

I'm married to the game,but she broke her vows.

[John DoeParticipant 743]

Will wrote:

I work for the Navy right now and it is so bad, I don’t think the Navy could seriously defend this benighted republic. I have many other stories and will add them if asked.

Tell us.

[EscapedMentalPatientParticipant 1489]

I have the greatest respect for you fellows that made the military a career, and am saddened to read of some of your experiences.  I come from a long line of veterans;  I only ever served as a reservist here in Canada, and only briefly.  I was astounded by the restructuring when they brought women in to the infantry as officers.  It was a complete joke, and they reveled like little girls getting to host their own bossy little tea party whenever they were in charge.  They consistently focused on anything BUT leadership, and were a disgrace to the uniform.  I could not stand the concept, and would never have put myself in a position to be under their leadership in a time of conflict.  Those of you who have served democracy as a career have nothing but my undying respect.

After Canada having participated in the Boer War, WWI, WWII, Korea, countless peacekeeping missions, the balkans and Afghanistan to name a few, the Royal Canadian Mint decides to release a commemorative 10 dollar bank note in 2004 depicting a female Canadian soldier in peacekeeping attire, and a woman standing guard over our natonal f~~~ing cenotaph/memorial.  The very same memorial where a Canadian soldier was very recently gunned down by a terrorist in the name of ISIS.  Keep in mind that it wasn’t until 2006 when the first Canadian female soldier ever (and still the only one to date) died in a combat role.  One.  So this banknote was issued prior to her death.  Please also note the serial number on the currency.  I don’t know how many people have noticed this little “anomoly” over the years, but Do you think it’s coincidence that the first three letters preceding the digits are “FEM”?  Really?  I am still to this day astounded by the gall of this.

We are a relatively small nation population wise, and our casualties don’t approach the larger nations’ numbers in terms of men lost; I’m not making any national comparisons here.  But as an example, Canada lost more than 68,000 men in the first world war alone.  When the Canadian Mint finally decides to release a banknote commemorating our military service to the world……..they flagrantly decide to depict a woman on the note in a combat role, and as a guard to the casualties at the cenotaph; even when at release date, there hadn’t been a solitary woman killed in a combat role.  They openly decided to fabricate history at the expense of the veterans of the wars to satisfy feminist indoctrination.  We see to the right of the image of the guard at the Cenotaph, a family, complete with male Veteran gazing on with great respect.  I can only imagine that the grizzled old vet in the beret must be thinking “What………………the……………f~~~.”

What an incredible f~~~ing insult to the over 100,000 Canadian men dead and buried in Europe in the name of Freedom.  ONE woman dies………ONE…..and it was celebrated nationally as this incredible achievement.  Again, the banknote was issued before a woman even died in combat.  Our respective nations are convoluted with a sickness that runs so deep, it has become passe and unnoticed.

My hats off to you vets and what you’ve had to endure.  Respect to you, always.

 

[mgtow_85Participant 752]

I have great respect for you Canadian soldiers who have served and died in the ranks, especially in wartime. The USA lost over 50,000 men dead in WWI, but Canada, with a MUCH smaller population, lost over 60,000 dead, which is more of a huge hit to that country in percentage of manpower lost through the general population.

You are right. 1 woman dies in Canadian military service and she is known nationwide as a hero. Meanwhile, the 3,600 Canadians who died, and the 7,000 wounded at the Battle of Vimy Ridge alone…from April 9 to 12, 1917, are never mentioned and long-forgotten. Ask a Canadian today about Vimy Ridge and they won’t know f~~~-all about what it means. But they’d definitely know the name of that woman who died in Canadian service.

I own a movie about Canadian troops in World War One. The main character is a Canadian SGT. who is made out to be a hero and is sent home to Calgary to be in the recruiting effort. His commanding officer is at a big recruiting rally with the sergeant, and asks all the men of military age to stand up. Then he asks them to tell the sergeant WHY they haven’t yet enlisted to serve their country in it’s greatest hour of need. In those days, shaming the civilian population to get the able-bodied men to enlist worked wonders.

The sergeant in that movie later goes back to the war and assigned to the Ypres line(a MAJOR killing ground in that war which claimed up to one-third of all British and Canadian lives lost in World War One)in order to protect a kid soldier with asthma who enlisted, who just so happens to be the brother of the woman he’s in love with. He ends up commanding a company of Canadian troops, which isn’t so much company-strength anymore as they get chopped up to bits by German machine guns in the Battles of Passchendaele. That company is a wrecked fragment of it’s former strength, and it’s men like THAT from the Canadian Expeditionary Force of WW1 who should have been put on your country’s $10 banknote.

If it means anything, feminists from our country to the south of you are trying to replace Andrew Jackson’s image on the $20 bill with some picture of some bitch who didn’t do S~~~ to earn the privilege of being on our money. We already have Susan B. Anthony on the dollar coin. What ELSE do they want? To replace Jackson with Gloria Allred, the bitch who they considered the “founding mother” of feminism in the 70’s?

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

It is hard to really go your own way, when you are in the military. As a way to find your own way, and get a trade, and become self-sufficient, the military can be a good option.  But, there are risks involved with that.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[Terminus EstParticipant 145]

The irony of course is that all the feminism in the world cannot do or even exist without the disposable male to man all the ships, watch towers, sewage plants, air traffic control towers, etc.

So in a sense, it would be logical to boycott military service until the same country we defend can treat us with human dignity again. Since it is young men mostly out of high school that join up, noting much would change since the system utilizes them early enough before they develope any political sense of their gender peril.

 

My naval service btw was from 94 – 98, but I was was on a hell ship where my service time can best be described as being in a juvenile detention center at hard labor, except we didn’t do anything wrong.

It still made me tough as nails though, like a mean, unloving father who nevertheless taught you good skills.  Different ships, different experiences.

I also hear the exact opposite from other (usually smaller) commnands.

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