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Thanks for confirming. There was a period where something “stuck” for me too. But not a login problem.
Likewise.^^
It was quite literally litter. “You motherf~~~ers” doesn’t belong anywhere as a topic. He created intentional junk that improves nothing, adds no value for anyone and trolled an intro , and belittled another.
I don’t know if he was trying to swallow the red pill or what. Why I said in his thread, I took it at face value in his depression thread.
It’s not my place to speak for anyone else, nor will I do so now.
Can you even give a single reason why we should permit a participant to post AT ALL after first contacting us with no other words than “your site sucks”.
As I said, I am not an admin here, or anything else. I said in that thread,
Dude is reaching out for help, I am not saying the way he is doing it is right, I am just saying, it may be the “best” he can muster with it on this.
I am in no position to say he lied about being depressed. I CANNOT and WILLNOT speak for another man. I am not his judge on what condition he is or isn’t, mentally or any other way.
Anyone that wants to preach equality to me, I’ll cut your god damned throat!
My goodness, it might be a good idea to keep this one out of the kitchen, and out of the judicial, legislative, and executive branches of government as well. Somebody needs a hug.F~~~ing right on the spot.
Pursue STATE level courts, brother. If that is not enough, pursue FEDERAL level courts, because what is happening in your hometown is a CLEAR VIOLATION OF THE CONSTITUTION, by the City Zoning Council.
SUE THEIR ASSES OFF. And call nation-wide media.
Remember Clive Bundy. Create another Bundy standoff.
I do hope you get your revenge, brother. If I can help, in any way, count me in.
Try to offer someone help and you get the old “bag over the head punch in the face”. Nice try MGTOW Age, your noble efforts have not gone unnoticed.[/quote]
He has 21 topics and 355 replies. This is but one example, TO ME, of bringing something of value. I was given a chance to exchange with Tower in this thread (Why I linked it in Gem’s Depression Thread) and Gem10 gave acknowledgement of that.
Of course, it has been taken OUT of Context, to illustrate my point here.
I have had a few exchanges with Gem10 that have been and STILL ARE of value to me.
These other threads & posts that are being talked about the most, had to be brought to my attention, until the last 2 I participated in.
There was no desire to even explain
Again, I understand, but as I shared in the depression thread,
Keymaster wrote:
Lemme ask you, when you were “depressed” did you tap other guys on the shoulder and give them marriage advice and offer to set them up?
Of course not on that example^^ in That thread .But since he is Tower’s brother, I basically figure he is gonna be sarcastic and say s~~~ I have read from Tower.I was taking it for face value in This thread, on what he has typed in this thread.
Anonymous wrote:
Learn from these guys if you really want to go your own way, can’t learn much from me, I’m just here to have fun and f~~~ with people, in a friendly way
Anonymous wrote:
I can be difficult to discern the difference between tuna and too much 151. I just realized that this may explain something about women. Get smashed, publish a bunch of dumb out-lashing s~~~ on a thread and you may be suspected of being a woman. On that note please forgive my occasional Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde posts if you will.
He asked for forgiveness. So I did.Keymaster wrote:
Does that sound like someone who’s “depressed”???
Or does it sound like someone playing a joke on you.
I did joke around and use humor often, to deal with my depression way back then. Had I not, maybe I would not be alive today to have this exchange with you.Keymaster wrote:
“these motherf~~~ers….. are like women with dicks”.
I have been called worse on here, why should this^^ phase me exactly?Lemme ask you, what if he (or any man reading all this for that matter) is really depressed? What if a man really did desire to get it off his chest & didn’t know how to? What if he decides to just say f~~~ it and kill himself instead???
I am not fond of “what if” scenarios, but with this topic, I make an exception…
I would not want to be wrong about that, and then find out a man took his life.
I don’t want to be in that position, EVER, and IF I am or ever will be, I would rather be able to look myself in the mirror, knowing I tried MY BEST, to help with it.
I have enough s~~~ in my life I regret already…I don’t need another log on that fire.
If that was a tuna, Tower would have been all over her like white on rice.
BUT, it’s NOT, it’s his brother! And that is a whole different ball game in my book.
Lemme ask you, what if he (or any man reading all this for that matter) is really depressed?
Great question.
Here’s part of an email he wrote 10.15 on the night he said our site sucks which arrived immediately after we said “ok if it sucks, we will delete your profile”:
QUOTE: “Your site doesn’t suck, it just sucks for me, because you won’t let me speak, I’m a f~~~ing spectator?”
Then we made him a participant – more than once(!) – and give him a chance to “speak” and look what he did with it. DEMANDING the f~~~ing right to “speak” and when it’s wide open, he doesn’t think it’s appropriate, except “these motherf~~~ers . . . . are like women with dicks”…. and “To be honest I think some men going their own way seem to be contaminated with female thinking”.
For every “right” someone has, they also have the “right” NOT to do it.
I would rather be able to look myself in the mirror, knowing I tried MY BEST, to help me with it.
I can. We did try our best. Too many times. But if it were true, would this really be the “best” place for him? I even recommended Googling some f~~~ing comedy if he needed a laugh. That’s how I can look myself in the mirror and live with myself. And I would even tell HIM:
However cleverly you sneak up on a mirror,
your reflection will always look you straight in the eye.Ask Doctor Jekyll. He knows.
Who’s thinking is contaminated now.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Great question.
Here’s part of an email he wrote 10.15 on the night he said our site sucks which arrived immediately after we said “ok if it sucks, we will delete your profile”:
QUOTE: “Your site doesn’t suck, it just sucks for me, because you won’t let me speak, I’m a f~~~ing spectator?”
Then we made him a participant – more than once(!) – and give him a chance to “speak” and look what he did with it. DEMANDING the f~~~ing right to “speak” and when it’s wide open, he doesn’t think it’s appropriate, except “MGTOW are women with dicks… have female mentalities”.
That IS alot of chances. My intent was to be helpful in that thread, I have explained myself in that thread & now again in this one.
It certainly seems to be a tinderbox, I am just trying to make some sense of it all in my head, regarding everyone that has posted in those threads & and this one.
I am curious as to what everyone else is thinking, don’t want to monopolize the floor…
Thread isn’t even addressed to me, but am thankful for being asked to engage in it.
Anonymous1I am curious as to what everyone else is thinking
The actions taken against Gem10 were ABSOLUTELY necessary – there really was no choice in the matter.
I was one of those who saw this coming a while back but won’t go into the reasons because you know it all.
No individual is bigger than what we’re doing here and if they are then all of this was for nothing – yes it really is that important. I would have questioned what I was doing here if this continued to go unchecked.
Having said that I have nothing but respect for MGtower, and at the risk of sounding a bit womanly, it was upsetting to see his recent posts.
Having said all that I hope to see him back back to his old self – An extremely charismatic and intelligent individual. I also have no issue with Gem10 and hope he could return and show a little more consistency and respect for other members.
I hope neither of them hold this post against me.
But if it were true, would this really be the “best” place for him?
And I did not want to give the impression that this was not worth answering…
I have thought deeply about it, is there some place better than here for us men?
Because as far as my knowledge, it is a resounding NO.
then I wasn’t doing a good enough job and I apologize that you had to tolerate it after all you have been through already.
Thank you for that, really…and because everything I have learned since that went down 2 months ago, has/is made a profound impact on me.
So, because of Gem10’s “going overboard”? with it, it is yet another thing of value to ME. Had this not all gone down, perhaps I would not have gotten this apology from you.
But, you were not the one to do that to me, and I tried to stand up for myself & got shot down over it. How can I stand up for myself AND not come across like I am also White Knighting?
I am still trying to figure out the balance for MYSELF, just like the Ignore… Thread I made.
TLDR: Thank you for the apology.
Gonna bow out of this thread, if it’s all the same to you & you men here.
Hmm… looks like I missed some online drama. Normally, a good thing; but goddamn it sometimes I feel like I should be the center of attention. One of these days, I’m going to have to flip my s~~~ too!!
Boredom is a bitch…
Love this site, but damn so much drama
". . . elle, suivant l’usage des femmes et des chats qui ne viennent pas quand on les appelle et qui viennent quand on ne les appelle pas, s’arrêta devant moi et m’adressa la parole"—Prosper Mérimée
Anonymous1Hmm… looks like I missed some online drama. Normally, a good thing; but goddamn it sometimes I feel like I should be the center of attention. One of these days, I’m going to have to flip my s~~~ too!!
Boredom is a bitch…
8 chan boring you these days? Haha
…fuuuuck. I got rekt.
(on a related note… 5 o’clock bitches, I’m out!)I have thought deeply about it, is there some place better than here for us men? Because as far as my knowledge, it is a resounding NO.
Delighted you think so.
GEM10 would not agree with you because that night (10.15) just before my quote above, he said “Whatever, no big deal. I found another place to whine.”.
He doesn’t think it’s the best place even for himself.
So one wonders what all the f~~~ing high-drama is about.Love this site, but damn so much drama
“The only winning move is not to play.
How about a nice game of chess?”
– War Games 1983Refresher basic rules of Chess in video below. (winks)
A new meaning to “bored” games.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.what the hell am I missing here????
what the hell happened???
Tower is one of bestest brothers, why all the s~~~???
what the f~~~ am I missing here???Men are at a time when panning for gold in a urinal has a higher probability of success than finding a faithful and loving woman, it is time to go your own way.....
Anonymous5Mg Tower where ar-t thou runith off twoith.
Anonymous14Wow! Yesterday I tried starting (and deleted) a silly thread just for fun and someone named Anonymous replied with a link to that littered thread and I had no idea it was you Tower and I proceeded to read that thread, felt sad about how things escalated but had no idea it had gone so far.
You know I feel I have no right to lecture anyone on anything here because heck, I hardly participate much anymore.
Been here since even before veterans like General CPig but have a Star rating of that of a lieutenant. 😛
But still for what it’s worth I’ll leave my two cents.The way I figure it, none of this would’ve happened say if we all were in a room, face to face with each other, say in a pub even drinking beer. When we’re talking to each other face to face, emotions get interpreted right away thanks to the tone of the speaker’s voice and the expressions of his face.
But in case of written documentation like emails, chat messages and forum posts its nearly impossible to interpret the correct emotion behind it and is left entirely at the perception of the reader. That is why simple typographical errors like unintentional capitalization are often mistaken to be rude. It’s actually the responsibility of the author to make sure that his composition follows certain linguistic etiquettes. That’s often not the case and leads to all sort of unintentional misapprehensions like this.
But what has happened has happened and unless someone here is in possession of a time machine (PM me if you do) it cannot be undone. So please let bygones be bygones and lets work together to avoid such incidents in future.
MGTower long time back when I stopped being a regular here I left a farewell post where you called me a friend and a brother and now as a friend and a brother I plead to you, please try and forgive and forget. I know it’s hard but it’s not impossible.
Life is too short to hold a grudge, trust me I know. Held a grudge against a friend and now he is gone and no matter how much I wish there will never be any chance for reconciliation. I don’t like talking about it but still did because that how much you guys and our struggle means to me.
We need you with us soldier, both you and your brother. You are our demolitions expert, how will we take down the enemy’s fort without you?
Fulfilling my duties as the medic. Peace. 🙂
MGTower, your already missed and I think you’ve posted at least twice in this thread.
#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.
I have tried to get to the bottom of all this — and wow….All I can say is this, Tower, you have been there for so many, you have given me so much good advice, as has Key…I surely hope you and your brother are okay sir, I have no idea what all went down, and honestly don’t know if it is any of my business, all I can offer is my ear if you should ever need it….Tower we all thank you for all you have done, and if this is farewell, then may it be a pleasant and good one, I am sorry your brother and you have run into foggy times, again, if ever you should need an ear I will always be here for you, just for what you have done for me brother….Hope this find you well….
Men are at a time when panning for gold in a urinal has a higher probability of success than finding a faithful and loving woman, it is time to go your own way.....
Peace, the f~~~ OUT…..
Lmao.
Tower, hey brother, I think we have engaged with each other more than enough, for you to know at least this about me…
I get it man.
Thank you, and to me, you are a good friend.
Peace
I have tried to get to the bottom of all this
If you figure it out, let me know, OK, because this has all been one giant what the f~~~ just happened? I’ve looked, and I still don’t know what the f~~~ went down.
Which is why I’ve switched to bikes in the other thread. Bikes I understand.
If you figure it out, let me know, OK, because this has all been one giant what the f~~~ just happened? I’ve looked, and I still don’t know what the f~~~ went down.
Here’s what went down.
/forums/topic/please-try-to-make-me-laugh-i-am-very-depressed/
After I posted, and made gem10 a spectator for the 3rd time, Tower got very angry as you will see. Why? Who f~~~ing knows. I can’t imagine why someone who wrote to us and said “your site sucks” would have such a f~~~ing problem because he can’t post s~~~ to other members anymore…. especially in light of all the details you already know. What a goddam waste of time.
And PS….
I don’t know about you, but I have been depressed a few times. Like when my 6 year old niece died of leukemia. That was just about the most goddam awful thing that ever happened… watching my cousin go through hell losing his first born like that.
And in that moment of severe depression, NOBODY could have made us laugh. In fact , I probably would have slapped anyone who tried. “Hey I know your little niece just died…. you wanna hear a great JOKE To cheer you up?”
Nobody who is genuinely “depressed” would ask for that.
It was a botched troll job is what it was.If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.After I posted, and made gem10 a spectator for the 3rd time, Tower got very angry as you will see. Why? Who f~~~ing knows.
And that’s what I’ve been trying to figure out.
Maybe I’m completely wrong here, but I figured the Gem10 account was a sock puppet Tower created for f~~~ing around. Playing devil’s advocate. Thesis-antithesis. That sort of thing. As such I generally scrolled down on that account, while reading everything Tower himself had to say pretty much religiously. Anything the man had to say as himself was always worth reading.
So I’m more than a little baffled about his reaction over the Gem10 account not going over so well here.
Was Gem10 really actually his brother after all or something? Was it some split personality thing? I can’t really see either scenario from someone who, up until this fiasco, was intelligent, resourceful, and, well, reasonable. What the f~~~?
I don’t know about you, but I have been depressed a few times.
I get angry instead of depressed. I’m not sure that’s any healthier, when you need to learn coping mechanisms for your coping mechanisms.
Like when my 6 year old niece died of leukemia. That was just about the most goddam awful thing that ever happened… watching my cousin go through hell losing his first born like that.
F~~~.
It’s a little late coming, but you all have my sympathy.
But there again, I read that and I get p~~~ed off, because it immediately reminds me of all the people I’ve had to deal with this past week bitching about their petty problems like Trump getting elected is supposed to be such a goddamn tragedy, and then you mention your niece, and I can’t help but get p~~~ed off at those asshats for not knowing what real tragedy is.
Like I said: not healthy.
Nobody would ask for that.
Well I know I wouldn’t, but I can’t speak for anyone else. A friend of mine just got over prostate cancer (knock wood), but for the past two years his coping method has been being as obnoxiously inappropriate about it as possible. Like asking other people in the oncologist waiting room: “So, why did you decide to get cancer? I did it for the hot nurses and anal probing.” That sort of thing. And that’s completely f~~~ed up, I know, but I guess they had to do some serious s~~~ to him to save him, and sometimes those five stages of grief just don’t cut it.
So I can’t judge Gem10 / Tower for the “I’m depressed, make me laugh” thread. It’s all the insults and bad reactions that I see as a problem. Those are the things I don’t understand.
I mean it seems like there’s probably some s~~~ going on in real life for Tower, but I don’t know what it is, and haven’t been able to figure it out, and if he’s been forthcoming somewhere, I certainly haven’t found it. So he brings it here, and that puts you between a rock and a hard place, because now you’ve got to deal with Tower’s reactions and also deal with the inevitable responses from the other forum members. Do you sacrifice a whole forum for the sake of one old member who’s having problems with it? Do you cut him off to minimize the drama f~~~ing up the rest of the forums? Is there any way to help Tower fix whatever s~~~ he’s dealing with that’s at the root of the problem?
I certainly don’t know. Which is why there’s no way in hell I’d ever try running a forum. There’s simply no f~~~ing way to keep it running and keep everyone happy. This whole situation is just plain baffling, and however you deal with it is your call to make. They’re your forums, so it’s your decision.
Thank f~~~ it isn’t mine.
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