MGTOW2LATE Introduction

[MGTOW2LATEParticipant 88]

This is my first ever post on any internet site.

I wish I had found MGTOW 29, 22, or even 5 years ago. Those dates correspond to my marriage, forgiving my wife’s first confirmed affair and second confirmed affair. No matter what the wife did the Blue Pill world kept trying to convince me that I just needed to do more, sacrifice more, and more was never enough. My life has been a living hell.

My blue pill education began in High School where I was a mediocre wrestler in the 120-weight class. This made me good enough for cute girls to talk to and use to make their boyfriends jealous, but never good enough to actually date. I fell headlong into the white night and SIMP trap.

I started dating my (then future) wife about a year out of college. (We will just call her Skank Whore or SW for short) I had never heard of Sh-t testing until I discovered MGTOW but SW knew and used them all. She let me know I was dating out of my league and I needed to be grateful. She wanted to have sex the first time we were alone but when I told her I was a Christian looking for a relationship rather than sex – suddenly she was also a Christian AND A VIRGIN!! She said she was just so overwhelmed with love that she forgot herself and had never done that before. Golly geez Wilber, imagine my luck!?! (Yes, I was that F’ing stupid. When you’re done laughing we can continue.) Her friend even covered for her telling me that God brought us together because they had been praying for a good Christian man. Years later I found her diaries and discovered that the friend was telling a half-truth. SW was a druggy slut partier being treated for STDs and the friend prayed that she would give up that lifestyle and find a Christian man to take care of her. I was the stooge.

After getting married I was constantly belittled for not making enough money so I went to law school (I hate confrontation and fighting – Lawyer?? Money for her, hell for me.) While in Law School she refused to help or attend events because it was “boring.” She even blew off my graduation. When I was upset by this she pointed out that I am very self-centered and didn’t care about her feelings. I would be having fun with no consideration that she would have to sit through the boring ceremony. As for me being selfish – this came up every holiday. In 28 years we spent every single holiday her family.

She lost interest in sex just months after getting married. From then on I was an insensitive a-hole for wanting it and therefore had to pay. Sex always started with the phrase: “If I do this for you, what will you do for me?” and the negotiations began. Ironically she began to complain that sex made her feel like a whore.

I caught her having an affair while I was in law school. She had been talking about divorce, but by the time I confirmed the affair, the guy had just dumped her. Suddenly she was all “in love” and realized I was the most wonderful guy. (Translation – You’re a f’ing idiot and I still want your money.) She argued that Satan tempted her but she never “did anything.’” She just stayed out till 3 am “talking” because I was too busy (putting my ass through law school for her.) and I was not giving her the love she needed. (She is the total victim) and I was listening to Satan’s lies and wanting to destroy our marriage. People at church were pressuring me to forgive and complaining I was being sinful for my lack of forgiveness.

I decided to give SW a chance and she got pregnant immediately which locked me in. This was my graduation from SIMP to full blown Cuck. Any possible speck of respect for me was completely gone. She realized that if she could get away with that – she could do anything.

I was working long hours as a lawyer (which I hated) and she spent every penny I made. When I came home it was my duty to cook for the family and help children with their homework. SW was angry when I did not clean the kitchen after myself. (WTF) SW dubbed me both a F’ing loser for not making more money and a F’ing bastard for not spending more time at home. When I argued that I get paid by the hour, her solution was that I get to the office by 2 or 3 am so I can get work done and be home early. (Men apparently don’t need sleep.)

Years later SW started talking about a divorce and having me move out of the house again. My 13 year old was suspicious of her mother and so hacked her phone. She found texts from a Dude at the YMCA and even a photo of him showing his junk. (Great for a 13-year-old girl to see.) Daughter told me and when I confronted SW she moved out leaving me with the children. She even blamed me for involving our daughter.

If I knew MGTOW then I would have known I was lucky. But I was in the blue pill hell and SW was demanding $10k/month in alimony. How did the Christian women we knew respond? (LOL – you all know). I am the bad guy for not satisfying my wife’s every possible whim. One woman angrily accused me: “What did you do to push your wife’s heart so far away from you!?!” Another woman told me that it was my duty as a husband to “defend your wife’s honor while she goes through this.” As if she is a cancer victim. Another told me (to my face) “I can understand her wanting to leave you, but not the children.” I wish I had known MGTOW back then so I could have said “F U Bitch!!!” Being in blue pill hell, I was shamed.

Giving in to pressure, wanting to keep an intact family for my children, and being afraid of the courts, I accepted her back (again). Did this make me look like a great guy? Hell NO! It justified her lies and made me out to be a complete cuck in front of my daughters. I decided to help her heal the relationship with her children and it turns out she decided to destroy mine. My daughters lost all respect for me.

Long story short when the children started to turn on me I suffered some form of breakdown and was mentally unable to practice law. I went into a mental cocoon. At this point my daughters really turned on me saying I was a loser who did not even care about providing for his family. (I wonder where they got that idea?) SW showed me an eviction notice saying we had to leave our home. She arranged for a place for her and the kids to stay and I would visit my mother to rest and recuperate. (Let my mom take care of me cause SW sure as hell wasn’t going to put forth the effort.) she also closed all bank accounts. SW and my (now) 18 year-old daughter put me on a train. At mom’s house Sheriffs served me with divorce papers. The eviction was fake, SW was still at the house with my children. They sucked every ounce of strength and dignity from my body and soul then when my ability to supply cash faltered, I was thrown out like garbage.

I was a mess until I found MGTOW. I realized I am not alone and not crazy. All these MGTOW youtubers and MGTOW posts were describing my life. I felt an instant brotherhood. Finding MGTOW was like suddenly waking up and realizing that I was a victim of some sick f’ing behavioral modification experiment conditioning me to destroy my life. Thank God for MGTOW. I now realize that although I destroyed 30 years of my life, I am now lucky. I am now free. SW knows she sucked the life from me so is not asking for any money, only that I take on what is left of my debts. Fine! I don’t mind paying debts and I will recover – thanks to you guys!! I will be free.

I am still a Christian but have taken a hard look at our modern feminist perversion of Christianity. Traditional Christianity had a lot of MGTOW principles. Paul even warns men against marriage saying “I would not put you through that.” For 1500 years the church was run by a MGTOW type ideology, which is now condemned and maligned as either misogynistic or homosexual. People still teach that a husband is supposed to love his wife as Christ loves the church (ie sacrifice himself for her) but you will have a riot if you suggest that wives must “obey their husbands.” Don’t even try to mention a Christian wife’s duty to joyfully and willingly give her husband sex whenever he wants it. Christianity should be a stronghold for MGTOW Monks but the average church is a fortress of gynocentricity with obedient white knights lining the walls ready to help their pussy yielding overlords destroy any man who steps out of line. And they keep asking the question: “Why aren’t more young men joining us?”

Being a lawyer I looked at marriage and came to the conclusion that modern “marriage” and Biblical “Christian marriage” are opposite and mutually exclusive legal relationships. Therefore no Christian man should ever get “legally married” as it is a denial of the faith. I have actually ran this past some pastors. The conservatives loved it but treated it like porn. They don’t want anyone to know they read, let alone liked it.

If anyone thinks that would make an interesting post – let me know. I would love to join the fight to save our younger brothers from the Hell I lived through.

"Yet those who marry will have worldly troubles, I would spare you that." 1 Cor 7:28

[MurineesParticipant 704]

All too familiar stories.

Never too late.

Welcome home.

[Anonymous 7]

Welcome home brother.
Somewhere around here is a virtual cooler, grab yourself something cold to drink and put your feet up and relax.

I really hate reading about c~~~s that turn their children against their father. Breaks my heart.

[I_see_broken_clocksParticipant 258]

Hell of an experience

But you survived

Welcome

[ArcturisParticipant 2819]

Wow. Thanks for sharing.

It’s never too late mate. Better now than never.

Welcome home.

Protect Your Sovereignty. Women WILL TRY To Manipulate You. #NOCONTACT #ICETHEMOUT

[LionOnTheLooseParticipant 1315]

Welcome, brother. You are among friends now. You have been through decades of hell but you can finally relax.

There is so much in your story which makes me angry at what that skank did to you. There’s also a lot that reminds me of my own story: I’m a musician and was having some success in the music business in my early 20s, but when I got married, suddenly the pressure was on to have a “proper job” and “be a man”, so like you I retrained as a lawyer. I too absolutely hated it. I also had the identical experience of on the one hand being expected to earn more and more, while on the other hand being criticised all the time for not being around. In what insane universe do these bitches’ minds operate in? Do they think we can pull extra hours out of our arses or something? Or just not sleep, like you say?

Now you are free, I hope you can finally move away from law depending on your financial situation and spend your days doing something you love. You survived that hell and you can be proud of that.

Christian women can be particularly toxic, perverting Christianity to serve whatever selfish purpose they have (again, I speak from experience). You’ll find Christians and atheists on here, and sometimes the religious threads get a little heated, but by all means do post your article about Christian marriage, I’d be interested to hear your thoughts. 🙂 The MGTOW Christianity you describe is alive in some quarters, and some of the happiest people I know are celibate Christian monks living the monastic life.

Again, welcome brother.

There aren't holes in your pockets. It's called marriage.

[Anonymous 13]

Just another absolute f~~~ing C~~~.

Alienating children from a father should be child and parent abuse, these c~~~s should be flogged and JAILED.

I suffered DECADES of bulls~~~ too.

Then was removed by the ONE PHONE CALL they’ve all been empowered with.

C~~~S the f~~~ing lot of them, hive minded and connected C~~~S.

WELCOME.

[ShineParticipant 1696]

Welcome 2late, it’s never too late to be aware of the REAL world and not the blue pill fantasy that is fed to us in all the media we consume through out younger years.

You will rebuild stronger alone, motivate yourself to be happy and successful with noone, it’s the best revenge a s~~~ eating grin that says I’m doing it my way.

Time to shine!!

"Society is to blame" Denton

[BoBParticipant 823]

Holy s~~~, man! That is as strong a conviction of the Blue Pill as I’ve ever heard. Welcome! Actually, we really need you here. I hope that you’ll engage and immerse yourself with us. There is some craziness here, but you’ll know it when you see it. We could all use your perspective.

[Anonymous 13]

Oh, and it’s never too late until the fat lady sings.

Even then you can just,
ICE HER BITCH ASS OUT.

#ICETHEMOUT
#MANOUT

[Anonymous 18]

Lots of red pill wisdom in your post for every man to pay heed. Can’t help but the c~~~s including your daughter had me in a mini-red pill rage.

The c~~~s defending your wife were displaying the classic hive-mindset. They are incapable of seeing men’s suffering and pain. Because we are not beings but doings for women. Male-doing. A utility of what a man can do for her.

Their toxicity is going to free men.

Was hard to read that brother, but never forget the pain. Our own biology and sex drive is responsible for the entitled c~~~-hood of modern women.

You are free. Stay free. Die free.

Sorry for everything you went through. Thanks for your openness to share that will everyone here.

And lastly a very warm welcome 🙂

[Anonymous 0]

Welcome home, 2late
Beer’s in the fridge

Also, know this:
Your open and honest post will help other men that become enlghtened at a later date. That is your new strenght.

[Mr LogicParticipant 625]

What M52 said.

[Y_Participant 4591]

I have one suggestion for you bro.

Change your name to NEVER2LATE.

It is NEVER TOO LATE ok?
You have many good years ahead.
Remember you are better off than 90% of people on this planet.
That itself is a blessing – so don’t waste it.

[sjt1975Participant 2536]

It Is Never Too Late To Go MGTOW! It took me to the age of 42 years 7 months, to walk-away from sex/women! The main thing is that we MGTOWs eventually ‘saw the light’ and subsequently decided to live our lives for our own benefit. I have never had a date/relationship/marriage with a woman and I am thankful every day that I have not, eventhough it means that I will never have a son; but there are always compromises in life.

[MonkParticipant 16977]

Moral of the story:

Daughters are female, so even they will betray you. They can’t help it. THEY WILL ALL JOIN THE HIVE.

[MGTOW2LATEParticipant 88]

Thank you so much brothers. Lot’s of encouragement and advice. If there is ever some MGTOW convention, I need to buy a round for you all. As it is, I will lift a beer in your honor today.
MGTOW honestly saved me. I was thinking that I wanted to die. Now I am in the ‘F-you’ mindset. The greatest thing is that MGTOW seems to be a ‘no shame zone.’ You can openly say you were beaten down, say you are pump and dump or a Monk and you are still OK. It is like the coolest bar. We are trained to believe that women are the sensitive, in touch with their emotions gender, but we are. Men do and always have produced the vast majority of art, poetry and music. The s~~~ they do produce is all about “me me me.” Once you take the red pill you look back and wonder how you could have been so deceived.
I also really thank God for those brothers who post the “hit the wall” vids on youtube. To paraphrase Styx: “Good-bye to the Grand Illusion!!”

"Yet those who marry will have worldly troubles, I would spare you that." 1 Cor 7:28

[Anonymous 3]

Welcome! Here is where you belong & where new life begins.
I am unabashed about doing things that are in my own best interests. That is MGTOW to me.
Thanks for posting. You have suffered enough.
Stick with the winners.
Stick with MGTOW

[Y_Participant 4591]

MGTOW2LATE wrote:

Once you take the red pill you look back and wonder how you could have been so deceived.

You have come to the right place.
Yes! We rule the world.
And on Sundays run naked through a park near you.
We also have shock therapy sessions if you are interested.
And in cases of real depression we have a hotline run by Oprah.

Please don’t cry.

[IRuleMeParticipant]

I wish I had found MGTOW 29, 22, or even 5 years ago. Those dates correspond to my marriage, forgiving my wife’s first confirmed affair and second confirmed affair. No matter what the wife did the Blue Pill world kept trying to convince me that I just needed to do more, sacrifice more, and more was never enough. My life has been a living hell.

That’s how they keep you brainwashed. And noticed how it’s always YOUR fault? Responsibility never falls on them.

My blue pill education began in High School where I was a mediocre wrestler in the 120-weight class. This made me good enough for cute girls to talk to and use to make their boyfriends jealous, but never good enough to actually date. I fell headlong into the white night and SIMP trap.

Same deal with me. I sucked at it. My dad was really good back in high school. As was my uncle who did it all the way at the collegiate level and nearly made the Olympic team back in the 80’s. My uncle coached it at the same school where my cousins wrestled and they were good. He’s in tight with several well known figures in the amateur wrestling world. Good friends with Gene Mills and Dan Gable. But yeah, I sucked.

I had never heard of Sh-t testing until I discovered MGTOW but SW knew and used them all. She let me know I was dating out of my league and I needed to be grateful. She wanted to have sex the first time we were alone but when I told her I was a Christian looking for a relationship rather than sex – suddenly she was also a Christian AND A VIRGIN!! She said she was just so overwhelmed with love that she forgot herself and had never done that before

ALL women s~~~ test. Women are always pinging their boyfriends/husbands. They actively look for reasons to disqualify them and monkeybranch. This is a tactic taught by PUA for USE on women. Go figure. Using their own weapons against them. Notice how she also seemingly seemed to be all the stuff you were at first? Women who have an interest in a particular man will “magically” become whatever their mate is, or will magically be a fan of the same s~~~ the guy is. “OMG! You like Van Halen too!!!!!!?” It’s not fate, it’s being a f~~~ing chameleon. And women are the masters of disguise. If they weren’t they wouldn’t use so much makeup.

She lost interest in sex just months after getting married. From then on I was an insensitive a-hole for wanting it and therefore had to pay. Sex always started with the phrase: “If I do this for you, what will you do for me?” and the negotiations began. Ironically she began to complain that sex made her feel like a whore.

No surprise there. What else is new? Also, no wonder she felt like a “whore”. Because that’s what she was, and she knew it. The only way she’d give up sex is if she got some form of payment in return (prostitution) i.e. you doing things, or buying her s~~~.. That makes her a whore. The only thing is, you simply had to figure out the negotiating price. The reality is ALL WOMEN ARE WHORES. Putting a ring on their finger is ALWAYS a bad idea.

I caught her having an affair while I was in law school. She had been talking about divorce, but by the time I confirmed the affair, the guy had just dumped her. Suddenly she was all “in love” and realized I was the most wonderful guy. (Translation – You’re a f’ing idiot and I still want your money.) She argued that Satan tempted her but she never “did anything.’” She just stayed out till 3 am “talking” because I was too busy (putting my ass through law school for her.) and I was not giving her the love she needed. (She is the total victim) and I was listening to Satan’s lies and wanting to destroy our marriage. People at church were pressuring me to forgive and complaining I was being sinful for my lack of forgiveness.

I decided to give SW a chance and she got pregnant immediately which locked me in. This was my graduation from SIMP to full blown Cuck. Any possible speck of respect for me was completely gone. She realized that if she could get away with that – she could do anything.

Dude, you were a cuck, and she knew you were a cuck, and so she played you like a cuck. No other honest way about it bro. She cheated on you because she perceived you as being boring. Only, her monkey branching failed, so she had to come back to you, but since she knew what a cuck you were, she knew you’d excuse her infidelity and try to work it out.

The constant belitting and s~~~ talking she was doing to you the entirety of your relationship is common among women who don’t respect men, or at least, don’t respect the men they’re with. I’ve seen it as well first hand (with the comments from them to back this up). She didn’t respect you. Which is why she used you like a doormat and disrespected you. Any self respecting person would have tossed her the minute she started her belittling s~~~. Why? Because high value people don’t need to tolerate that s~~~!

However you may feel about the opposite gender as it relates to society…. Women who s~~~ talk the men in their lives (men who, invest their time and effort and resources on them) behind their backs, or belittle them in public or private; are f~~~ing garbage! And they don’t deserve respect.

I was a mess until I found MGTOW. I realized I am not alone and not crazy. All these MGTOW youtubers and MGTOW posts were describing my life. I felt an instant brotherhood. Finding MGTOW was like suddenly waking up and realizing that I was a victim of some sick f’ing behavioral modification experiment conditioning me to destroy my life. Thank God for MGTOW. I now realize that although I destroyed 30 years of my life, I am now lucky. I am now free. SW knows she sucked the life from me so is not asking for any money, only that I take on what is left of my debts. Fine! I don’t mind paying debts and I will recover – thanks to you guys!! I will be free.

Glad to have you here man. Sorry you had to do the s~~~ the hard way, and swallow unsavory red pills to learn the truth. It’s a bitter truth indeed, but better now than decades down the road, or several failed marriages down the road. Her using the kids is no surprise. “Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned”. They’re vindictive c~~~s. Seen it too many times. But they’re supposed to be the “nurturing” gender right? What a crock of s~~~.

Anyways.. Welcome to the forum bro. The alcohol is in Market~~~cher’s fridge.

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