MGTOW should also be about making gains not only about rants

[~BSParticipant 3266]

I do agree that men going their own way should focus on self improvement and gains. I totally agree with this, and largely, that is what MGTOW do.

Now consider the term itself “men going their own way”. What are they going their own way from? That’s right, they’re walking away from things like women, feminism, big brother, government, legal traps, etc.

Any fool can fist bump their bros for finding a $20 on the ground, changing their own oil, or working less. That s~~~ in and of itself is meaningless. Hell, you could be a mangina or feminist and brag about the same thing. It only stands to reason that men discuss what it is they’re going their own way from, right?

Additionally, everyone is in different stages of GTOW. Some men are still in the the anger stage and need to vent. Some men are trying to help and teach others about the nature of women. Who are you to tell them how they should walk the MGTOW path?

"He didn't marry until now, so he won't ever do it. Think about it, why would a man like him ever marry? It's too late to catch him. " ~some cunt

[Anonymous 0]

Pedal, run, row wrote:

Be the change you want.

I would love to see more positive posts. Bring them!

Just start making positive posts and disregard the rest. Men generally come to this site after they have been hurt. They need time and a friendly voice. That is the strength of MGTOW.

[bladeParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

Pedal, run, row wrote:

Be the change you want.

I would love to see more positive posts. Bring them!

Just start making positive posts and disregard the rest. Men generally come to this site after they have been hurt. They need time and a friendly voice. That is the strength of MGTOW.

yep and when a person has kids involved that hurt goes on until your kids are old enough .

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[It’sallbsParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

I have made many personal gains in the past year and a half since discovering mgtow. Personal,health,mental and financial

By going mra makes you a target. And I for one believe by going out marching and protesting will only bring your identity to light and will make it difficult for some of us to ghost at our jobs. The system is not going to change. Let the s~~~show start I have a good bottle of whiskey to enjoy during the show.

I have always found ghosting tough as I hate injustice but you are probably right.

http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

[BrujahParticipant 579]

Someone over in the MGTOW subreddit has a pretty good analogy. The online MGTOW presence is more like a hospital where men come to recover so naturally you’re going to see alot rage and brokenness.

There ARE stories of gains. They’re just buried amongst the rants from those who have recovered from the same situation.

The path to those gains however, seems to sometimes be a bit blurry since there is no “set” path and there are even some who would dare impose so called “Proper MGTOW values” similar to what PUA would impose on others.

[It’sallbsParticipant]

Keymaster wrote:

The words “MGTOW” and “should” don’t sit well together.

The far most important part of successfully navigating the roads is — >> collision avoidance. As it is, many men have learned IT PAYS BETTER to identify the wrong woman.

That’s a “gain” in itself. A HUGE one.

MGTOW Knight wrote:

This is our safe space

Disagree.

It’s just …. NOT a “safe space” for women.

This is just website as websites were originally created to be: by men, for other men. Facebook, Yahoo, and all that other social media monkey s~~~ is a “safe space” for women where their delicate sensibilities are sheltered.

That’s why we created the women’s shelter.

That’s a “safe space” for women.

fcukin hate cats

http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

[KeymasterKeymaster]

It’sallbs wrote:

fcukin hate cats

I’m just allergic to them. But they take it so personally!

🙂

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Pedal, run, rowParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

Pedal, run, row wrote:

Be the change you want.

I would love to see more positive posts. Bring them!

Just start making positive posts and disregard the rest. Men generally come to this site after they have been hurt. They need time and a friendly voice. That is the strength of MGTOW.

Yes, that was the point I was trying to make to OP. If you want more positive posts, make them.

[Anonymous 12]

you want to have a discussion about positive stuff?
How MGTOW makes your life better without the mention of women?

share your $5 car fix here

Computers, Games and Technology

How running away from women, the judges and the police has enabled you to participate in a marethon

Sports & Leisure

How you, your dog and your hammock have enabled you to step over your mental limits by doing some proper soul searching and self reflection?

Philosophy

Where men and other Kings rule the world?

Political Corner

Once a Man has reached the point where he completely unc~~~s…
he turns his attention on himself only and all talk involving females bore him.

But the road to that point is long.

don´t judge him who is not there yet, for me may very well suffer from the Fallout that women and their enablers have contaminated his world with.

If you dislike the talk about female nature, and seek other subjects, visit the areas that fit you best.
but do not seek to divide what cannot be divided into pains and gains.

pains and gains go hand in hand.

[RorschachParticipant 2083]

MGTOW should be whatever each man wants it to be. If a brother wants to rant let him rant and support him. If he has insightful stories or information useful to us thats great too. By simply going your own way you start gaining immediately. Sanity, health, money, time they are yours for the taking. I agree fully that all of us have to move past the point of just being angry in order to grow but sometimes you need to vent. I do firmly believe that any man that chooses this path will make gains in life. Is it easy? No. Do you get angry sometimes? Oh yeah theres so much blue pill s~~~ piles laying around its hard not to smell them. In the end is it worth it? ABSOF~~~INGLUTELY.

The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout "save us!"....... and i'll look down and whisper "No."

[MelmothParticipant 9]

I think I get what the OP is saying. I wouldn’t go as far as to say that it should be regulated somehow, but there comes a time when the ‘anger phase’ or ‘redpill rage’ just starts to hook up its own feedback loops and then starts to perpetuate itself. So scanning can be a good skill at that point. But I think it comes down to guys just respecting where each other is at. I don’t mean this as some kind of grandstand, but personally I’m done with the culture war/hostility aspect of it. I much more intrigued by the fun, even the excitement of reconfiguring my life to get the most out of it through MGTOW ideas. Tomorrow is day one. Nothing could be more exciting. I understand the anger that results from all those red pill truths, but you have to come to terms with it and move on, imo. The stuff about “Hey some feminist said this…” Yeah, well no s~~~. They’re insane. We actually should thank feminists for their insanity. Anything less and a lot of us wouldn’t have escaped the plantation. So I just try to avoid the daily rundowns of leftist/feminist insanity. For awhile it was necessary but I don’t want decades of having those people in my life via the internet.

"Don't let yourself get attached to anything you are not willing to walk out on in 30 seconds flat if you feel the heat around the corner."

[~BSParticipant 3266]

Brujah wrote:

Someone over in the MGTOW subreddit has a pretty good analogy. The online MGTOW presence is more like a hospital where men come to recover so naturally you’re going to see alot rage and brokenness.

There ARE stories of gains. They’re just buried amongst the rants from those who have recovered from the same situation.

The path to those gains however, seems to sometimes be a bit blurry since there is no “set” path and there are even some who would dare impose so called “Proper MGTOW values” similar to what PUA would impose on others.

Below is the post.
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Posted by DigitalScetis

To those who say, “I came here to see exciting, positive, wonderful, stories about going your own way, and all I see are complaints and negativity.”

Assuming you really do want to see this positive life-affirming advice, self-empowerment stuff, and aren’t just saying it to troll us, just how do you think anyone gets to that place?

There are tremendous success stories here, great bits of advice, positive affirmations of MGTOW to other MGTOW, and good news of success. All through this subreddit. But in order to find these things, you have to first understand what this subreddit is about, and how we go about getting you to where you want to be.

This sub, r/MGTOW, isn’t some phony, PR-designed sales pitch to show you the wonderful life you will have if you just take the redpill and go your own way. If that’s what you are looking for, a sales pitch to convince you that we hold the secret to your unlocked potential, a perfectly polished façade that shares stories about bungie jumping, selfie moments, loads of cash, bikini-clad pumps and dumps on beaches, retirements by 40, and all of that crap, go to the PUAs on r/TheRedPill. They’ll give you all the “positivity” you want, and it’s just as easy as “up your game bro,” with a rote list of things you need to do (“lift bro,” “STEM bro,” “neg, bro,” “antifragile bro,” etc.). In fact, they are so into positivity there, if you even dare suggest–even hint–that something is wrong, you’ll get called out (“That’s not how an alpha talks, bro,” “read Gorilla Mindset bro,” “that’s how betas talk, bro”).
If you are a man who needs to be sold on an idea by the number of happy, successful, testimonials made on the idea’s behalf, then I am sorry to say that r/MGTOW might not be the sub for you, and that going your own way might not be what you are looking for. Full stop. If you don’t like the “negativity” or the “hate about women” or the “bitterness” or “bitching about dating and marriage,” then I don’t think you realize what is going on in here, and why it’s necessary here.

When you say “I don’t understand how MGTOW is good for men, because all I see are negative threads and complaints about women,” you are saying something akin to “I don’t understand how this hospital is good for health, because all I see are diseases and injuries here.”

This is a hospital for the male spirit. It is NOT a hospice for the male spirit, designed to make you comfortable, like r/ForeverAlone. Nor is it a plastic surgeon for the male spirit, designed to form you into the shape that you aren’t, to get you the things you think you ought to be getting, like r/TheRedPill.

This is a hospital, a place to heal you and send you on your way. As such, it is a place where you will see ugly things. You will see savage illnesses here. You will see disgusting things here. And you will see painful things here. And if you go through the treatment, you too might become one of those disgusting things, those savage things, those ugly things.

But those of us who have been around the hospital for awhile, and even some bright young interns who are studying hard, we became physicians of the male soul, and you can see the work we do in the threads. Some of our methods of healing you are, themselves, sickening, disgusting, cruel, and perhaps sad; they involve toxic substances and are unfit to do in environments outside of here. But they are necessary if we are to get you on your way, your own way, so you can live your male life in good health from here on forward. Perhaps you will want to practice here as well, but it is often an unrewarding experience, to be honest.
It’s unrewarding for the same reasons psychiatry is unrewarding, or law is unrewarding: we only ever see our patients when they are at their lowest point. When we get them to a state where they can be these positive, successful, life affirming and adventuresome people, they aren’t here. They are out in the world going their own ways, without the illness of gynocentric-induced disease weighing them down. They are free to be the men they are, which may differ significantly from the man they thought they wanted to be.

See, we aren’t in the business of selling you on why you should go your own way. We can’t do it, because it is about going your own way, not the way of whatever you think your own way ought to go. We can’t promise you success, or popularity, or loads of pussy, or any of that. We can’t, because we don’t know you, and not only that, we aren’t even sure if you know yourself.

But if it’s one thing I know about this sub, r/MGTOW, we have little patience for PR, positivity cults, idealistic notions, or BS. We are into the reality of the situation, knee deep in the bones and guts of it all, and it ain’t pretty. It doesn’t always even have a good outcome.

But at the end of the day, we save lives. And if we get called a bunch of bad names, and cast as a bunch of negative people, posting negative things, so be it. Because the work we do here is work that needs to be done.

"He didn't marry until now, so he won't ever do it. Think about it, why would a man like him ever marry? It's too late to catch him. " ~some cunt

[Anonymous 12]

When you say “I don’t understand how MGTOW is good for men, because all I see are negative threads and complaints about women,” you are saying something akin to “I don’t understand how this hospital is good for health, because all I see are diseases and injuries here.”

Exactly.
The journey, by its very nature starts with pain and negativity of some sort on some level.

[Anonymous 54]

We live in a world where women can openly insult and demean and degrade men. If we publicly say anything less then glowing praise for women we are labeled misogynist, racist homophoblic ect ect bla bla.

I like the rants.
Some of us gotta get this s~~~ out.
What gets the most stars? Angry comments. Just an observation.
I like haveing a place where Men can get some anger and resentment out.

Bitches earned it.

For me the goal is acceptance. Im about there. Partly from sayin my peice about what heartless Evil c~~~s they can be.

I like short rants however.

[Anonymous 54]

Autolite wrote:

Romanian wrote:

how I repaired my car with $5,

The last time you could fix a car for 5 bucks was 1971…

The price of duck tape went up?

[Anonymous 1]

Tired of people doing this. Happening a lot lately.

This preachy s~~~ really gets on my t~~~.

[Anonymous 54]

Anonymous wrote:

Tired of people doing this. Happening a lot lately.

This preachy s~~~ really gets on my t~~~.

So was it a rant about rants? Hahah

I get his his point. Dont forget the self improvement part.

Rant over.

F~~~ing c~~~s! Hahah

[Anonymous 1]

Anonymous wrote:

So was it a rant about rants? Hahah

I get his his point. Dont forget the self improvement part.

Rant over.

F~~~ing c~~~s! Hahah

Haha.

This site should also be about making gains

I make my gains in the gym.

We having a winning formula on this site and it helps so many men yet some are desperately trying to change that.

[ChangedParticipant 588]

blade wrote:

M52 wrote:

Pedal, run, row wrote:

Be the change you want.

I would love to see more positive posts. Bring them!

Just start making positive posts and disregard the rest. Men generally come to this site after they have been hurt. They need time and a friendly voice. That is the strength of MGTOW.

yep and when a person has kids involved that hurt goes on until your kids are old enough .

I agree with what was said. Also that comparison with a hospital where men come to heal is good.
But the problem is also that I was looking at all last topics created where everything was mixed, instead of browsing a part of the forum that dont have so much anger. Of course I can avoid clicking on those titles that sound too negative, I’m fed up hearing about women’s stupidity, and mangina’s stupidity also.

I agree with the following also:

Melmoth wrote:

I think I get what the OP is saying. I wouldn’t go as far as to say that it should be regulated somehow, but there comes a time when the ‘anger phase’ or ‘redpill rage’ just starts to hook up its own feedback loops and then starts to perpetuate itself

I was also thinking recently about creating some means of destroying the established institutions ( macro-organism in the language of Angry Harry), but then I thought: if I’d focus on them, the attention whores would get everything out of me, but if I focus away, that is the road to take, don’t give them not even 1 second of my attention. That is the way empires collapsed. As an analogy, I didnt create this topic to be a rule (a “should”), but just an observation. I never said that public activism is a good thing, never suggested MRA (although I published a quote from MRA that I found on Google).

Matriarchy taxes us. Patriarchy taxes us. No Fucks Given! If they give us pains, lets give them pains. Daily.

[JackpineParticipant 283]

I posted my initial rant and to tell you all the truth, I like to read others rants. I think that’s definitely part of this place. Keep them coming. Also, how do i find the Forum Index? Is there such a place?

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