MGTOW progressing further, new approaches philosophies ideas etc.

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  • #384491
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    Ned Trent
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    Hello guys

    As the new year has just started as usual I tend to get quite reflective about all sorts of things including mgtow itself.

    And you know, we are here for self improvement as it has already been stated multiple time before correct me if I’m wrong.

    Now in that very light I am very much embracing new thoughts within the mgtow community as such with regards to further individual personal development and therefore to my delight Groundwork for the metaphysics of MGTOW has only recently started a project for certain mgtows to try and develop new theories as opposed to just drooling on and on about the same old issues that keep popping up time and time again and thus can get a little bit boring in the process and yes, from time to time I also get a bit bored by this (like I might have mentioned before)…

    Anyways, so Groundwork for the metaphysics of MGTOW now collaborates in this his latest venture with Coterie MGTOW, both of whom ever since recently basically encourage MGTOWs, who can relate to his and Marcus’s collaborative endeavors to hand in guest scripts to either one of them to be incorporated for future videos.

    To be frank at first I had a few small doubts that this might work, but meanwhile I have just checked out one of those such guest scripts by Coterie and I for one can’t help it but being interested in a few new ideas and new philosophical approaches presented there, whilst not necessarily agreeing fully with absolutely everything being stated mind you.

    So for any of you guys (maybe rather the longer time members / veterans on this forum but then maybe even our new guys here…), who agree with the idea of an ongoing own personal progression in that respect and might therefore be interested in this here are two of Coterie’s latest videos, one being such a guest script and the other one having been just put out the other minute/hour:

    Feel free to comment and/or give feedbacks.

    Best

    Ned T.

    I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC

    #384637
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    Stargazer
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    What more *really* needs to be said about hypergamy, dominance, gynocentrism and male disposability than has already been said? To my mind, the revlutionary thinking part of the revolution is over and we’ve come to the end of the contintental congress part as well.

    Maybe all these content producers are just jockying to be recognized as the “voice of MGTOW” which, I suspect, a lot of people think is going to be a lucrative gig, but I say the time for talking is done… the convention is over, folks, and the time to try to be the most popular voice in the room has passed.

    The next step is to put all that talking to good use by taking action. Whether that means putting pen to paper to write a declaration of independence or taking up arms against the enemy or just smugly going home to your bunker and waiting for the end of the world is up to each of us to decide for himself.

    I understand there are many of you who simply want to sit back and watch the world burn… maybe you really don’t care any more or maybe you actually think you’ll be the ones to emerge from Galt’s Gulch and start the world anew. As for me, I feel like so long as we are here, it is a crime to sit idly by and let everything men have created go to ruin while it is still within our power to fix the problems that we have created through our own neglegence.

    I’ll post my draft for a MGTOW DoI for your consideration when I’m done writing it.

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    El Sid
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    Definitely feel the time is right to develop more structure to MGTOW philosophy. I’ve learnt so much since joining this forum from other members, but it still feels like I’m just seeing flashes of the bigger picture. In an ideal world, somebody would be putting together the collective wisdom into book form.

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    Anonymous
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    Not sure what new philosophy there is to be developed here.

    Women will sacrifice everything for the next c~~~ with a bigger wallet, poison the kids, lying about their father, and the divorce court will side with women almost every time. How many good men does the system need to wreck before all men figure this s~~~ out.

    There is only one strategy here that works, stay the f~~~ away from women. Stay away from marriage contracts, and stay away from divorce court.

    I don’t even think sex it worth it, disease, false rape accusation and unintended pregnancies, angry husband/boyfriend. Stay the f~~~ away.

    It’s all bad bad bad!

    #384844
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    Ned Trent
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    @ Son of Rlyeh: I very much respect your slight objection asking what more could be said about hypergamy…?

    You certainly got a point there and that’s all well and good.

    I can however sense that you at least somewhat can see what I am driving at and that to me just proves the point that I for the most part wanted to address this topic towards those members who are rather senior than new comers, since most of them presumably are still fighting their own fights with the red pill rage phase and understandably so.

    Well, since you asked what essentially my interest was as far as for instance the guest script vid that I posted is concerned, I shall gladly fill you in on this one:

    I plain and simply found that theory quite interesting about the so-called “hyper reality” created by the media in that the movie industry is creating some sort of an abstract unreal reality in a sense which can lead its audience’s views completely astray, that’s what I think is a fascinating one thought further.

    Moreover I think that such or similar new thoughts and thesis could contribute to yet further diversification within the entire mgtow philosophy followers’ spectrum as a whole and I actually don’t think that such a further thinking would or should necessarily be linked to a goal of becoming a more popular voice within the community I mean that kind of motivation certainly wouldn’t fit me to be sure. I would rather consider myself a mgtow scientist of say free thinking hobby philosopher if anything, obviously not quite as sophisticated as Groundwork for the metaphysics of mgtow is or seems to be but still…

    Anyway so much for that

    In an ideal world, somebody would be putting together the collective wisdom into book form.

    Thank you El Sid. I might just consider this idea… (+1 for you there)

    Yes, occasionally I can be such an idealist I know. I am aware of it and I do stand by it.

    I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC

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    Feral
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    One obvious trend is that the number of MGTOW is growing. Also, many new MGTOW might be less committed because they took the red pill second hand, rather than by being burned badly in first person.

    A bigger base opens the possibility of specialization. I know that being divided is worse in some ways, but having group cohesion is very important. We can’t achieve much by staying completely individualistic and by diluting more and more.
    When a group is united and is threatened, good actions can occur.

    I am no Jew, but I see some similarities:
    a disperse group that shares a belief for which it is oppressed. We also focus on money and on learning. We tend to be not attached to our (oppressive) country, and we are ready to move to greener pastures.
    The next step for MGTOW is to develop a stronger cohesion, to help each other more, and to create – or move together to – a sovereign country in which we would be the majority (dreaming big).

    Bigger base and longer timeframe means also a higher probability that, eventually, a billionaire would become MGTOW (or a MGTOW billionaire).
    Imagine somebody powerful lobbying for a tiny sovereign state that would give to us nationality and some needed laws.

    Also, as we grow in numbers and cohesion, we could boycott movies, companies, etc. I mean, not buying from them or not building for them, etc. Yes, we are few, but many of us are thought leaders who might influence some non-MGTOW men.

    To be clear: I am not thinking in MRA mode in terms of convincing women to vote to change our oppressive countries,
    but instead in terms of a coordinated move to a greener pasture where women and other parasites have no vote.

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