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Anonymous6Something I took from the MGTOW Reddit
1) MGTOW is more of a philosophy on how to live life instead of a movement.
This is a very important one, a political movement is defined as a organized social group operating to achieve a certain goal. MGTOW does not operate in such a manner. At it’s very essence it’s a bunch of guys who’ve adopted a new way of living life. They don’t seek to change the status quo, but instead opt out of whatever society expects them to do.2) MGTOWS are not just bitter men who cant get a date.
A lot of women think this is what MGTOW is all about. If this is you too, guess what? You’re wrong. Some of the first MGTOWs were divorced men. Men stuck paying alimony to a cheating ex wife who divorced him. Men screwed over sideways in family courts for child custody. Then it spread to men in marriages who were downright miserable with the way their wives treated them. Then it spread to men in relationships that were fed up with the dating world and how they were expected to act, despite being taken advantage of by women. Some of these men have been in abusive relationships. Then finally is spread to the young single guys in their 20’s.
It’s not that MGTOWS cant get a date, they just don’t want to. They’ve taken a good logical look at dating, marriage, and they way divorce courts treat them. At that point they decided to say “screw this i’m out”.3) MGTOWS are not social hermits.
Females seem to think that a MGTOW is some guy living his mom’s basement who refuses to leave and live life. In a Youtube video called ”Dear Men” by Alexanda Blue she mention that guys were isolating themselves from society. MGTOWS don’t isolate themselves they just don’t conform to society. They have friends, they most definitely have hobbies, they have family, they have good jobs, and they have fun. Calling them hermits is seriously missing the mark.4) MGTOW’s are very content with their lifestyle.
They have good jobs, a lot of them have their own business. They have time and luxury to pursue dreams and hobbies. Since a lot of MGTOWS don’t have to support a family, a lot of their money turns into disposable income. A lot of MGTOWS will tell you themselves that they live very peaceful, orderly lives. Which brings me to my next point5) Insulting or shaming MGTOW does jack squat.
People who dislike MGTOW really can’t seem to come to terms with this. All the time you the see them telling MGTOWS to “man up!” or say that they have “peter pan syndrome”. The reason why none of this works against a MGTOW is because you fail to see things the way the see it. To a MGTOW settling down means giving up all of your hobbies, your awesome life style, and pursuing your dreams, for a life of monotony. Even more so, “manning up” would mean entering in to a marriage where he could potentially lose at least half his assets (car, house, kids, etc.) in the event of a divorce. From a logical standpoint, trying to shame a MGTOW into settling down is pointless.6)They’re not all anti-feminist they just could care less about women’s rights, issues, etc.
Now, don’t get me wrong some of MGTOWS are anti-feminist. The rest of them could just care less. If MRA’s and feminists were to have a debate, MGTOWS wouldn’t even bother to show up much less get out of bed. If you’re trying to rally a MGTOW to some female social cause, don’t bother.7) Alot of MGTOW’s avoid women all together.
Don’t like being catcalled in the street? No problem, they wont catcall you. Hate being stared at the gym? Fine by them, they wont look. Don’t liked being asked for your number in random places? Alrighty. You don’t have to worry about a MGTOW doing any of these things. In fact a MGTOW won’t even bother to look in your direction. A MGTOW will keep conversation with you to a minimum. What people forget that this is a double edge sword. Having a guy buy you drinks at a bar? Nope! Taking you out to a nice expensive dinner and picking up the tab? Nope! Taking you for a ride on his motorcycle or in his sports car? Guess again. Casual flirting? I think not. The majority of men, are single yet off-the-market. Especially in a society where a guy in one false rape accusation or sexual harassment case away from a jail sentience.8) MGTOW is growing.
From 2009-2015 MGTOW went from being a obscure movement to the largest wing of the “man-o-sphere”. Today, there a numerous blogs, forums, and Youtube channels that are devoted to MGTOW philosophy. Do a simple google search for MGTOW and see for yourself.9) If you want to stop this growth you have to change what causes men to go their own way.
If MGTOW’s growth is alarming to you then you’re going to have to change what causes them to go MGTOW. Which means change the divorce courts, the attack on masculinity, the institution of marriage, social expectations on men, etc. Things such as shaming them, calling them “man-boys”, having white-knights attack them, and other methods will do nothing to stop this growth. The problem people have with this is that to a certain degree they are going to have to assign blame to themselves (* cough* straw feminists). They’re are many honest reasons a man will go his own way, just ask one.10) MGTOWS are not afraid of being alone.
When I talked about MGTOW to a female friend, she asked “Aren’t they afraid of being lonely ?” The answer to this question was no. To a MGTOW, being alone does not mean being lonely. He may not have a girlfriend or a wife but he still have friends, family, and his hobbies to keep him occupied. A MGTOW has no need for female companionship.Well done Venom !
I applaud you brother!
I read that and it’s like the outline of an indestructible ideology.
MGTOW is truly genius.
I’ve never been more content with my life since going my own way and learning the path of one.
As always, I’m in MGTOW school!
Thanks for the great post.Well said
There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it
Very nicely put!
Number 9 is the only one I slightly disagree with. For things to change women would have to change their entire thought process. To stop seeing men as a disposable utility and appreciate a man for being a man.
And too many women have learned how to fake it for me to ever believe it. Cried wolf too many times if you will.
I honestly have no idea what it would take to get me to believe in a relationship with a woman again, but nothing on that list comes close.
Order the good wine
Its been about five weeks since I’ve been single, and haven’t been insecure about it since. This is because I MGTOW’d.
Brother, we need to stick together.

Anonymous42I honestly have no idea what it would take to get me to believe in a relationship with a woman again, but nothing on that list comes close.
Hey TaxGuy, I have the answer to that one!
Alone in the garden of Eden eating snake instead of fruit!
Hey VENOM! Best introduction I ever read! You’re in the same shoes I was in after my 5th year of being MGHOW! I wish I had all this information when I was 20, instead of walking through societies garbage dump (relations~~~s) until my early to mid 30’s!
I know one thing, after treating my final garbage dump rat like a royal queen, I learned one thing; WHEN I TREAT MYSELF LIKE A KING, I LOOSE ALL DESIRE FOR A QUEEN!
They don’t feed into a relationship, THEY FEED ON A RELATIONSHIP!
I haven’t been in danger of suicide since the day I collected my broken ass, picked up all the shattered pieces and walked away into the unknown… Now they call this “unknown” MGTOW, and I thank god it’s now “well known”. I’m able to do something with all the pieces I’ve carried for so many years. Similar to a life preserver, I put them here on display so the lost generations drowning in feminism can look and see, then swim toward the life preserver and save another man from societies gynocentric temple of pure evil.
Alone in the garden of Eden eating snake instead of fruit!
That sounds very good. I never did like them apples. Always gave me a heartburn.
The answer is NO. “I could but I won’t”. Memini murum!
Wow great read Venom good job brother. Not sure if you wrote that or you found it on Reddit but it doesn’t matter. No woman who reads that will understand what we are going through because of their hypergamous nature. To many men and women have been brainwashed it is only going to get worse the best thing we can do is just never look back and help those brothers who have already taken the red pill.
I think this is really good. When I first heard of MGTOW, honestly, it was people saying they aren’t like the MGTOWS that are just guys that couldn’t get laid or hermits or whatever and so gave up on men.
However, I was like “let’s see what these people say, what is the MGTOW side of the story, what is this actually about?”
I found that the video makers, and then the posters on these forums, were mostly divorced, and/or had been screwed by the courts. The minority of MGTOW posters seem to have just gotten tired of a long string of bulls~~~ girlfriends.
Basically, not being able to get a girl or just getting dumped is not enough to wake a man up. No, first he must be deceived and led on. Then he must be used to the point that he can’t deny it and stay in the fantasy that a woman cares about him anymore. Then the real step is to realize that the law and society give him no recourse.
So the smearing that men go MGTOW because they are just losers doesn’t add up. It takes being in relationships and getting to know women to realize what they really want…which is not you, it is the things you can buy them or the status you can give them or the babies you can give them. This kind of realization followed by the realization that society/law leaves you no recourse, is what makes men look at the cost/benefit and realize that there is no reason to deal with women.
Before you say NAWALT, condemn those women publicly; it's like a signal flare to the good men you can't find. But. first...stop being THAT girl.
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