MGTOW at work

[ownwayParticipant 34]

I’m not naturally a “joiner” but I wanted to participate in some of the threads.

I’m 60+ and have seen huge changes in the workplace.

I mostly observe/practise MGTOW at work, a large Canadian corporation. My department is 70% female and all of the team leaders are female.

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

Welcome.

It was brief, how has it changed? What are the implications?

Please share.

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[joetechParticipant]

Welcome to the forums. I’m also 60+ and I’ve seen big changes in society in general, and that includes the work place. I’m glad I’m retired.

"Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."

[OldBillParticipant]

ownway wrote:

I mostly observe/practise MGTOW at work, a large Canadian corporation. My department is 70% female and all of the team leaders are female.

Let me echo Jan and ask you to share some of your observations.

The techniques you use to work on a female-majority department will be of great help to many of the younger men here.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[ownwayParticipant 34]

People used to take more pride in their work and were more willing to take risks to gain rewards. Now a small group of staff (read: men) do most of the behind-the-scenes grunt work while the management (read: women) hold meetings, check to make sure the work is getting done (without needing/wanting a whole lot of technical explanation) and then leave early.

I don’t want to sound whiny but I thought we were going to move into an era of equality? I’ve always been interested in and have tried to learn as much as i can about things related to my job. But many of my co-workers seem to only want to get out of work as early as possible. I’ve always believe that if everyone rowed their own oar, that we would use less effort to move forward faster.

As I mentioned I’m in my 60’s and earlier in my career my knowledge and experience were considered assets to my clients and my company. But now my experience seems to be valued a lot less and seems somewhat threatening to my co-workers.

I’m just making observations at work and am happy that I will soon retire.

I find MGTOW philopsphy to be relevant, not just to men but to society as a whole and I see a whole lot of changes coming, for the better for men and the worse for society.

[Anonymous 7]

Welcome home.

ownway wrote:

My department is 70% female and all of the team leaders are female.

You poor bastard. That must epically suck.

[ownwayParticipant 34]

Old Bill: I’ve always tried to be a positive force at work, using humour and my experience to guide me through. Admittedly in past years I never needed to censor myself. Not that I was ever ill-mannered or boorish, but everyone used to have thicker skin and a sense of humour.

Example: we have a young, female, contractor at work with a definite challenging, militant vibe. I would estimate she is early 30’s. The day after Trump won the election, I was eating in the cafeteria and this woman and another co-worker joined me. I asked her “why so blue?”. She informed me that “Trump is going to deport all of my gay American friends”. Having bit my tongue throughout the entire election, I lost it slightly and said “Oh, come on! He’s not going to do that. He’s a free-enterpriser and he couldn’t care less if you gay, straight, black, blue or green. Men like him hire on merit because they’re driven by profit and corporate sustainability.”

This exchange marked me in a very noticeable way with her. A few months later about a dozen of us (mostly women) went out for a drink to send off a coworker. I was telling a story of a somewhat comic exchange i had had with another female coworker when the young women said, quite loudly, “that’s sexual harrassment”. I felt completely threatened by her remark and have learned to censor myself completely. No spontaneous jokes, remarks, compliments, etc. Keep the blinders on and just focus on the task at hand. Makes the workplace a drag but who can take chances?

This is an illustration of how things have changed since i started 40 odd years ago.

My brother-in-law owns a garage with 4 hoists and I wish I had the knowledge to join him. Whenever I’ve been waiting in his office i feel completely at home and at ease. Smoking cigs onsite (totally against the law and he’s been fined for it) bantering with the mechanics without censorship. Talking about ATV or snowmobile weekends. He’s been divorced twice and never again. I have complete respect for anyone who can keep 4 employees working and still deal with all of the taxes, changes in technology, etc.

[OldBillParticipant]

ownway wrote:

People used to take more pride in their work and were more willing to take risks to gain rewards.

People used to have pride, keep learning, and taking risks when those behaviors were rewarded. They haven’t been rewarded for decades now.

Victim status, quota filling, and imaginary grievances are rewarded now. Style has replaced substance.

Now a small group of staff (read: men) do most of the behind-the-scenes grunt work while the management (read: women) hold meetings, check to make sure the work is getting done (without needing/wanting a whole lot of technical explanation) and then leave early.

It’s much the same wherever I go.

I don’t want to sound whiny but I thought we were going to move into an era of equality?

That was nothing but a sales pitch. By invoking men’s inherent sense of fair play, women could sell their decidedly unequal brand of “equality”.

I’ve always believe that if everyone rowed their own oar, that we would use less effort to move forward faster.

If your Pussy Pass means you’re never punished for not rowing, why not lay back and let everyone else row for you? You’re still going to get there, you’ll still receive the same reward as the rowers, and you won’t risk breaking a nail.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[Anonymous 3]

Welcome! Your in a precarious position. Keep out of the mix.
Stay MGTOW
Glad you decided to post.
Women do not experience camaraderie in the sense that men do.
My experience with women at work is more like chickens in a hen house. Cackling away & running around with a lot of nervous energy while accomplishing very little.
I am 60+ myself & comfortably retired

[TuneoutParticipant]

ownway wrote:

A few months later about a dozen of us (mostly women) went out for a drink to send off a coworker. I

Welcome brother,today,booze & co-workers can be a lethal combo – I too am mid age and have seen many changes – forgo any social occasions with them,speak only business at work and keep a neutral tone on subjects.

We have students where I work and even the young females are starting to show their conditioning with statements of sexist behaviour from men.

At least it’s not as bad up here yet as it is south of the border but I think it is only a matter of time till the witch hunt reaches us.

Lifes a bitch,but you don't have to marry one!

[ownwayParticipant 34]

Tuneout: I hear you re: socializing with co-workers. It’s a minefield. Not necessarily with the people you trust. I’m sure we all know a few people at work we can let our guard down with. It’s the possibility of some SJW overhearing something and whoosh you get blind-sided by a third-party complaint.

These younger workers show an arrogance that I just can’t relate to. If I had met someone with my experience at the beginning of my career I would be trying to learn as much as I could off them. Respect for older, more experienced workers was a given. If they could walk the walk I would put up with a lot from them to get that info.

Today the younger workers think they’re my competition. Seriously? You can barely tie your shoes competently and you want to question my knowledge?

[MeisterParticipant 2093]

Over a century ago Nikolai Tesla predicted that in the future females will rule the world.

80% of the men will be work slaves and the other 20% will be there to pleasure the women.

You can see this happening right now in real time …

Monk

[MarketWatcherParticipant]

ownway wrote:

“that’s sexual harrassment”. I felt completely threatened by her remark and have learned to censor myself completely. No spontaneous jokes, remarks, compliments, etc. Keep the blinders on and just focus on the task at hand. Makes the workplace a drag but who can take chances?

Welcome to my world brother. You are not alone. Ghost seem to be the best answer to most of my work conundrums.

[Anonymous 0]

Welcome home, ownway
Beer’s in the fridge.

I am a 65 plus retired teacher and have experienced all the crap you are talking about. Best bet is to express your feelings here with like minded men and keep your head down at work. Protect that pension at all costs and keep in mind that those feminazi young ladies are going to have to pay for your pension. What could be sweeter than that! After you retire, maybe you could hang out at the garage and learn a few things. It’s not as if you will need the money. Maybe drop some red pills on the guys.

[AttonParticipant]

Sounds like you are in the danger zone.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[ownwayParticipant 34]

Thanks for all of the support and insight.

One of the reasons I’m interested in MGTOW is that it’s the only organization you don’t have to go out of your way to join. Interactions with modern women are the “dues” required to become a member as well as the initiation. Men just have to be themselves and they will eventually become MGTOW without even knowing it.

I’m old school and I’ve always treated members of both sexes with respect. Just the way I was raised. Do I notice attractive women. Of course. Do I hold doors for the elderly? Of course. But I start my day on public transit with young women who are rude, discourteous and rotten on the inside. They slip through doors without touching them while glued to their phones so the door slams in my face.

Everyone seems to be a victim and they revel in how much more of a victim they are than the next person. I was raised that you never let people know if you’re having problems for many reasons. You keep that stuff to yourself. I was also raised to believe that you shouldn’t depend on others. You should acquire as much knowledge and as many skills as you can so you don’t need help from anyone. Because every time you accept help there’s a price that comes along with it and I never want to pay that price, thank you very much. I want to be an asset, not a liability in every situation or relationship I encounter. I’m just a little guy but I have the biggest shoulders (metaphorically) you’ve ever seen. But as time goes on I offer my assistance less and less. My ego doesn’t need stroking and I know what I’m capable of. I’m a survivor and I’ll do anything within my power, even if i have to cross legal or moral lines to survive.

This new world is perplexing though. I don’t understand people always on the lookout for the slightest offence so they can pull out the victim card.

Ever notice how much time people spend talking about bullying? Ever notice how the people that talk about it the most are the biggest bullies?

Every person who has the ability, knowledge and experience to assist or mentor will start retracting that knowledge and life is going to get awfully tough for these young people. I don’t care. Let ’em suffer.

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