Metaphorical Philosophy/The Importance and Necessity of Metaphors in Knowledge

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    One issue of philosophy has been primarily that of language. From lack of similar understandings of definitions for certain words, to issues of grammar, etc. the list goes on and often times the confusion builds to such a point that “specialists” are required for certain “philosophers” just so the “message” can be translated to the masses. There has been no simple solution to this as philosophy has been separated from science and from religion (and vice verse, etc.) where in early parts of civilization these things were not viewed as fundamentally separate but as inherently connected and reflective of each other.

    Reality has its own language, that of consequential imaging with “imaging” being a manifestations of existence through and within consciousness and reflective of it. Take for example the “tree”. Reality, as we observe it, has given us the “tree” in both abstract and concrete form with inherent properties that make it what it is through the eyes of reason/intuition/will(belief). It is this nature of what a tree is and is not that does not give us a clear coherent definition of what a “tree” strictly is, but rather aspects of what it is and what it isn’t. A mere formula of both thought and senses that gives us a picture while inherently having variables (different leaves, bark, stature, etc.) that leave it reflective of both the environment it is in and the environment’s effects on it. It is in this respect, that the “tree” has a language on its own terms as a metaphor for through it’s very being it communicates a variety of reflective characteristics.

    It has been and often is through imaging both literally and through story telling (metaphors) that key concepts are efficiently communicated throughout all people not limiting itself to either a specific type/age/career field/etc because images/metaphors in themselves are packed full of information limited only by the will to understand what they are while on their own terms being the equivalent of “packaged multi-dimensional equations” of logic and mathematics.

    It is the “seeking” of definition which has been both a weakness of not only philosophy but the sciences etc. precisely because definition comes through devisive means. We understand the natural world strictly by “cutting it into smaller pieces” rather than taking it on its own terms as how it reveals itself. Metaphorical language, takes a being on its own terms not as a strict definition of what “this or that is” but rather the potential acts which manifest from it. Take for example the tree: it grows and branches out often times produces fruit or seeds of some form. This “branching” characteristic of the tree inherent within its imaging can reflect through language that broadens one’s understanding for to compare a company to a deeply rooted tree equivocates with a group of people bound deeply together through common bonds that branch forth into the community and produce services and products for the people.

    The metaphor is important on its own terms as it does not depend strictly upon actual definitions but rather the inherent possibilities of action through the very being itself. Existence, itself is fundamentally its own language as language itself (as we use it today with language/mathematics) manifests through imagery while not being limited to it. Where as the philosophical treatise gives direction of “what this or that is”, “methodologies”, “knowledge”, etc. the metaphor gives all these things without explanation but rather through strictly being observed on its own terms. Where as a “treaty” or “discourse” leaves unanswered questions, the metaphor is only limited by the individual will trying to understand it while hold multiple non-contradictory explanations in many different respects where as a philosophical discourse cannot be always approached in such manners.

    With the advancement of large fields of knowledge, the possibility of metaphors as continuation of language through the perspective of being packaged equations of logic and math has to be considered not as an alternative but a viable means to knowledge in a time where the massive amounts of knowledge cannot be always viewed on their own terms.

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    The basic premise/observation is that language/communication and its relationship to knowledge is so complex that metaphors and metaphorical language are inherently unavoidable…and the “gibberish” we thought our ancestors spoke in is more deep and complex than we have been led to believe.

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    Star trek was good for thought provoking ideas.

    Reality then would have to be subjective to each individual so there would be many definitions of your tree.

    Lifes a bitch,but you don't have to marry one!

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    so there would be many definitions of your tree

    The problem with modern philosophy has been one of “giving definition of a tree” as the multitude of definitions never really “defines” the tree without relying on an acknowledgement of consensus as the basis of truth, a consensus which inherently through acknowledging itself as the “truth” subtly ignores the tree altogether.

    What if the tree gives “definition” (using this as an example)?

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    I see one advantage of the metaphor against formal discourse: avoid the direct understanding.

    If there is direct message, not only it can (and will) be filtered by previous concepts and beliefs, but it can also be misunderstood by different interpretations.

    The strength of the metaphor is its indirect or dubious message, that can bypass mental restrictions.

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    I see one advantage of the metaphor against formal discourse: avoid the direct understanding.

    I understand where you are head in many respects, and in those respects you are correct. However, I found that the “deeper one goes” in regards to philosophy/theology/any form of “thinking” the “less clear things become” almost to the point where things and perceptions blur into reflections of each other.

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    I found that the “deeper one goes” in regards to philosophy/theology/any form of “thinking” the “less clear things become” almost to the point where things and perceptions blur into reflections of each other.

    And who said I was talking about thinking? I was actually talking about bypassing thinking.

    And I under the impression that you where also…

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    And who said I was talking about thinking? I was actually talking about bypassing thinking.

    And I under the impression that you where also…

    The more one thinks, the less rational they become because all the “premises” of any inherently logical or coherent thought are taken on face value or belief.

    But we “reason” through our beliefs…..so there is a synergy in one respect (as in both need each other), a paradox in the other (as most western philosophy often times compartmentalizes thought/heart as separate entities played against each other).

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    The more one thinks, the less rational they become because all the “premises” of any inherently logical or coherent thought are taken on face value or belief.

    Yes. Even the value of ‘logical’ and ‘coherency’ are part of the same set of premises or beliefs.
    Its trying to solve a problem with what caused the problem.

    I learned to appreciate ‘paradox’. Two seemingly apposite things being true, or false, simultaneously. Not that it is logical at all under our mental constructions, but exactly because they are mental constructions.

    After all, what is real? Reality our our ideas of it?

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