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Eric Lauder 3 years, 3 months ago.
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“Let’s just be friends” If you ever hear a woman say this to you, after asking her out, never and I mean never date her. Even if it’s years later, just don’t. You can be friends with her if you want, but never date her no matter how long ago she said those words.
I have a cousin whose story is like this: He was in college, he was chubby, wore dorky black rimmed glasses, and was socially awkward. He was the type of man who got put on the back-burner by women always. “Let’s just be friends” is what he commonly would hear. He was the type of man who would hold a girl’s hair up while she was puking at some frat boy’s party, he would buy a girl dinner and listen to her cry after the latest bad boy dumped her, and there was even a girl bold enough to actually ask him to be her baby’s “father figure” because she had sex with too many men and it was impossible to find out who baby daddy was.
In his mid-30s he started to exercise which caused him to get a lean and muscular physique, he got contacts, and he scored a job at a successful law firm with a six figure salary. He had successfully went his own way. He told me about his college and high school life and how if he could go back in time he would become a bad boy, exercise, join sports teams, and live his life for himself instead of focusing on being some girl’s emotional tampon in hope of getting laid.
Well, a few weeks ago, a girl from college had invited him to visit her, after seeing her, he was surprised she was still good looking (seeing as many girls nowadays hit the wall in their early 30s), wasn’t fat, and still had her sense of humor. It was then he learned, that she was a single mom with three kids and only worked at the local Mc Donalds to support herself and them because daddy was in jail, after learning how successful his life had been going, she asked if he would like to date her, she was one of the girl’s who “just wanted to be friends” during college. He declined. He wasn’t going to be the father for another man’s bastard kids.
Dear nice guys, quit the act, women aren’t attracted to emotional tampons. Stop complaining about women being attracted to the bad boys and thugs and start acting like the bad boys and thugs. Once you hit 30s women will start looking for other qualities like humor, charm, emotional and financial stability because these will be the traits for a potential mate, focus on bettering yourself while your young and don’t waste your college and high school years trying to score.
The new American dream for working class women is to be at home with kids by age 30. Don’t fall for this charade nice guys, unless you want to become a wage slave then don’t fall for the s~~~, go your own way like my cousin did, your life will be much better when you do it.
Got a blue pill story you want to tell? Well share it on this thread.
I’d also like to add that if you’re naturally a nice guy, don’t try to be an asshole. Women, in spite of all the well deserved criticism they receive here, are very keen on categorizing men and they mentally lump you into a category within split seconds of meeting you. If they think you’re a nice guy orbiter right away, trying to be a prick won’t change that image. Being an asshole only works for Chad (PUAs always hide this fact from men). He’ll get laid while acting like an asshole, you’ll get arrested/sued for hate speech.
Instead, try to be more like Terminator or Robocop when you are out in a public place where there’s lots of women. Wear mirrored sunglasses so they can’t accuse you of eye rape. Do not speak to them unless spoken to, at which point you should talk in a robotic, monotone voice and keep your sentences as short as possible (only one word responses if the situation calls for it) and free of anything that would even remotely resemble suggestive dialogue in any way.
You can also pretend to be deaf/mute. Women are far less likely to make false accusations against a man that they think has a genuine handicap (whatever is left of their maternal instinct probably causes them to be slightly more sympathetic). I’ve made this a regular part of my routine when I’m in unfamiliar surroundings where lots of women are present, especially if it’s a big blue city. It’s better to have women pretend to be nice to you than to have them yelling “check your privilege cis scum!”
A Western marriage that survives in the current year is an act of mercy and compassion by the woman.
I’m your typical aloof “nice” guy, but deep down I don’t give a rat’s pink ass what women think or what they are going through. I’m not nice enough to be a white knight but not assholish enough to be a bad boy. I’m in the neutral and that ain’t changing. I want to make money. Make friends. And be left alone.
I have discovered a truly remarkable list of reasons why women are not necessary for a happy life, but alas this margin is too small to contain it.
Awesome post, I admit I see a lot of your cousin in my younger self.
"what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."
I don’t mean to be argumentative but this is bulls~~~:
Once you hit 30s women will start looking for other qualities like humor, charm, emotional and financial stability because these will be the traits for a potential mate, focus on bettering yourself while your young and don’t waste your college and high school years trying to score
Unless your a chad they care about money. Young or old is irrelevant. They learn this by 13 so don’t try and fool them.
As they get older they want money and as they hit the wall and look like shriveled herring they want money.
They don’t want a conversationalist doctor with degrees in music and classical thought.
They want money, dinero, pounds, dollars, euro’s. And that is all they want.
Go your own way, build up your cash and let them come smelling around for it. Dangle it but never share it.
#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.
Anonymous2I have never been the “nice guy” or the “bad boy”. I’ve always been the “give no f~~~s” guy. I have never given a f~~~ what people think about me. I have always dressed the way I like. While everybody else was listening to flavor-of-the-month pop artists, I was listening to Ray Charles, Miles Davis, and Sam Cooke. I have certainly never given a f~~~ about what women think, and that won’t be changing. The way some men will take on alternate personalities, or p~~~ all of their money out the window for the sake of impressing some girl has always bewildered me. I just think to myself “For f~~~ sake, have some self-respect and stop being such a pussy begger!”
Anonymous2I don’t mean to be argumentative but this is bulls~~~:
Once you hit 30s women will start looking for other qualities like humor, charm, emotional and financial stability because these will be the traits for a potential mate, focus on bettering yourself while your young and don’t waste your college and high school years trying to score
Unless your a chad they care about money. Young or old is irrelevant. They learn this by 13 so don’t try and fool them.
As they get older they want money and as they hit the wall and look like shriveled herring they want money.
They don’t want a conversationalist doctor with degrees in music and classical thought.
They want money, dinero, pounds, dollars, euro’s. And that is all they want.
Go your own way, build up your cash and let them come smelling around for it. Dangle it but never share it.
True. Money is always the top priority, as they know that they can use the gynocentric courts to f~~~ you over. The difference is that the ones who hit the wall before marriage only have the choice of settling for blue pill beta simps, or buying a cat.
I will have to (reluctantly) agree with Camacho here. Try as you might, if you are indeed wired as a genuine good guy, you won’t be able to keep up the ‘Bad boy’ act. They keep pushing you until you really really have to become a primordial throwback barbarian and ravage the f~~~ out of them. If you’re not cool with that then stick to the Terminator/RoboCop pose or the Retarded/Handicapped pose, depending on the scenario.
I also like to use the Hillbilly Cousin-F~~~ing persona from time to time. (No offence to my cousin-f~~~ing brothers here, but you know how big city folk think about those things 😉 )The answer is NO. “I could but I won’t”. Memini murum!
no more mr. nice guy…
have your wife call the cops,
get arrested,
be ordered to pay child support,
have your rights be trampled by the state..
be plunged into debt,
throw your FOOD MONEY to your lawyer,
you aint gonna be feeling too nice.The cousin f~~~ing image can work too if you pull off a convincing enough accent and dress the part.
If you want to adapt the Terminator/Robocop demeanor and don’t like mirrored sunglasses, you can go with these:
Really any type of wrap around sunglasses will work, I just like them because they’re Schwarzenegger/Eastwood approved.
A Western marriage that survives in the current year is an act of mercy and compassion by the woman.
I don’t mean to be argumentative but this is bulls~~~:
Once you hit 30s women will start looking for other qualities like humor, charm, emotional and financial stability because these will be the traits for a potential mate, focus on bettering yourself while your young and don’t waste your college and high school years trying to score
Unless your a chad they care about money. Young or old is irrelevant. They learn this by 13 so don’t try and fool them.
As they get older they want money and as they hit the wall and look like shriveled herring they want money.
They don’t want a conversationalist doctor with degrees in music and classical thought.
They want money, dinero, pounds, dollars, euro’s. And that is all they want.
Go your own way, build up your cash and let them come smelling around for it. Dangle it but never share it.
You beat me too it.
It is irrelevant – past 18 its all about suckering you in to surrender the cash before it is too late. They will take their time and become a notch on many, many guys bedposts until the crunch hits at 30.
They are not interested in you as a person. Second they have the dinero, off they go back onto the next Chad if they can snag his attention.
- Marriage is described as an institution. You would have to be crazy to be commited to it. -"If you want to live a happy life, tie it to a goal. Not people or things" Albert Einstein
I agree with most of your points except on one thing
“You can be friends with her if you want”This, right here, you dont wanna do that ever. Distance yourself as much as possible cause the more you spend time with her and be “friends” with her, the worse off you are – why? cause you wont ever learn how to let go, she will keep you on leash.
I feel glad to hear about your cousin though thats for sure.
Don't let defeat, defeat you; Let defeat be your greatest teacher.
I had a female friend quote this to me.2 hours later down on the bdach she asked me to feal her t~~~ then was trying to get me up in the dunes to f~~~ her.ps i did feal her t~~~ as a friend threw conversation but i never f~~~ed her even thow she stayed at my house.When woman knos you don’t want to be a beta orbiter it is like they try and prove them selves.2 year monk and happy.
THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .
Anonymous3Eh.
This isn’t to anyone specific, but if you suck with women, don’t pretend you are an expert on women. Don’t go on and on about “girls like this, girls like that” as an excuse for yourself. Every time someone gets called on this, they then immediately switch into “oh, I know that, I was a pua/badboy/player/redpill/thug/badboy I was really great with women, I was just talking about something else not me”.
Pretty much every young guy is broke. But most young men easily get a girlfriend. And most are also nice guys.
There’s a difference between being a pushover and trying to use that to get sex, and being a genuinely nice person.
Some of you need to ask yourself, are you MGTOW because you understand what that means, or are you just pretending to be MGTOW because you suck with women and think we’re a group of men that are here to whine and complain about that? Because if it’s the latter, you’re in the wrong spot, and that isn’t what we are. Many if not most of the men here, the ones that make the best posts, have had considerable “success” with women and understand them, hence why they can write those insightful posts on female nature. If you aren’t one of those people, don’t try to pass off your excuses as some sort of insight.
Anonymous1Having a woman as a friend is a very stupid move, unless you are getting what you want from her. If you are the nice guy, white knight, mangina, bluepill, then you’ll wake up near her sucking Chad’s c~~~ and wonder how it happened.
“No”: the strongest weapon in the world.
Some of you need to ask yourself, are you MGTOW because you understand what that means, or are you just pretending to be MGTOW because you suck with women and think we’re a group of men that are here to whine and complain about that? Because if it’s the latter, you’re in the wrong spot, and that isn’t what we are.
Thanks for writing that, Phoenix. You saved me the trouble. And thanks to Puffin Stuff, Murph, and the others for writing what they posted too.
Thanks to the various articles we’ve seen since last year, the general public is now more aware of MGTOW than at any point in the past. This “notoriety” is both good and bad.
As I explained in Jan’s thread about the future of MGTOW last year:
The increased attention will bring more poseurs than actual members. It will become “chic” in certain social circles to proclaim yourself a MGHOW. This faux popularity with poseurs will further dilute the movement by increasing the number of Youtube channels, blogs, and whatnot “discussing” what they claim to be MGTOW “ideas”. We’ll see more and more self-proclaimed MGTOW spokesmen involved in p~~~ing contests on the internet and in the MSM as they try to “prove” they’re the real MGTOWs.
Along with the trolls and manginas, we’re now also getting the poseurs, band wagon jumpers, and fad chasers. You know the type I’m talking about; they’ve “always been fans” of last year’s Super Bowl winner. Fortunately, we’ll only have to put up with their “insights”, “advice”, and other drivel for a year or two because:
Eventually, as all fads do, this faux popularity will peak and then crash as the poseurs move onto the Next Big Thing.
Some other fad will come along, something else to grab their short attention spans, and they’ll be off chasing the Next Big Thing they’ve “always loved”.
Many if not most of the men here, the ones that make the best posts, have had considerable “success” with women and understand them, hence why they can write those insightful posts on female nature. If you aren’t one of those people, don’t try to pass off your excuses as some sort of insight.
Very true. Real life experience cannot be faked and manufactured anecdotes about alleged relatives is not insight.
Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.
I agree with most of your points except on one thing
“You can be friends with her if you want”This, right here, you dont wanna do that ever. Distance yourself as much as possible cause the more you spend time with her and be “friends” with her, the worse off you are – why? cause you wont ever learn how to let go, she will keep you on leash.
I agree on that one. And how they keep you on a leash is best being illustrated in the following video below. Although it is comedy it’s got a strong message between the lines and because it’s very truthful, that’s what makes it so funny, but see for yourselves…
So yeah, let me tell you something about the friend zone right here:
I simply can’t take any woman seriously anymore …
I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC
Every rule can be broken. A woman who is “just a friend” can end up f~~~ing you. I hate the absoluteness of PUA speak. It’s arrogant to be giving men with MORE EXPERIENCE THAN YOU dating advice. The Puas never talk about toxic female nature. It’s all about banging the hawt blonde with big t~~~ with Chads dried up cum in her from last night. MGTOW is going YOUR own way. I have women in my life I’m not f~~~ing. Some due to distance, some are acquaintances who give me lifts etc. But im not being told by another man how to behave and act in my own life. Understanding female nature can lead to focussing on dating as sex only, not touching any woman with a 50 foot bargepole or forming a safe financial exit plan from a marriage. MGTOW might use some PUAlike strategies but we are not PUAs and we don’t need to be schooled on how to get out of the friendzone or other similar bulls~~~. That means you already care too much about her ever changing approval.
If you fall down 7 times, get up 8
Eh.
This isn’t to anyone specific, but if you suck with women, don’t pretend you are an expert on women. Don’t go on and on about “girls like this, girls like that” as an excuse for yourself. Every time someone gets called on this, they then immediately switch into “oh, I know that, I was a pua/badboy/player/redpill/thug/badboy I was really great with women, I was just talking about something else not me”.
Pretty much every young guy is broke. But most young men easily get a girlfriend. And most are also nice guys.
There’s a difference between being a pushover and trying to use that to get sex, and being a genuinely nice person.
Some of you need to ask yourself, are you MGTOW because you understand what that means, or are you just pretending to be MGTOW because you suck with women and think we’re a group of men that are here to whine and complain about that? Because if it’s the latter, you’re in the wrong spot, and that isn’t what we are. Many if not most of the men here, the ones that make the best posts, have had considerable “success” with women and understand them, hence why they can write those insightful posts on female nature. If you aren’t one of those people, don’t try to pass off your excuses as some sort of insight.
And I forgot to add – I couldn’t agree more…
If you fall down 7 times, get up 8
That’s a great story fair play to your cousin.
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