MEN NEED TO KNOW: Testosterone

[Smacktalk73Participant 296]

This is kind of a life-changing hour of radio.  Of course, it isn’t in feminists interest to spread this stuff around, because the difference between high-testosterone and low testosterone is not a conscious choice.

But as you will learn listening to this video, being a male means essentially learning to weather, from puberty onward, a s~~~-storm of emotions around sexual attraction.  We do our best, but really, we are incredibly easy to manipulate.

The funny thing is, if you accept this article, women are the real risk-takers in dating.  They are constantly waving red flags at a bull — dressing sexually, using sex as a way to get men into relationships, saying “I want you to give me love before I give you sex” etc.  It is all a big game, and we are the toys they are playing with.

Listen to to the full show:

http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/220/testosterone

[Smitty the Great OneParticipant 1535]

I feel this is something Capt. Obvious should have said….

Life is too long to play by someone elses rules....

[Yellow WizardParticipant 41]

One of the things guys like to do that women don’t understand is to figure out how things work.  We enjoy taking things apart and looking at the components, learning how they interact with each other.  To that end, I highly recommend listening to this one hour broadcast of how testosterone influences how we think and act. It’s highly enlightening.

We often think of ourselves as rational, yet we aren’t really as “in control” as we think we are. I became aware of my reactive (versus proactive) nature when I fought and overcame alcohol addiction years ago. For me this broadcast sheds even more light on our true nature. The testimony of the guy who for a while had no testosterone in his body was fascinating. He discovered that without it he had no desire to do anything; that he could stare at a wall and be content. Having enough of the hormone gives you decisiveness and a “don’t look back” attitude, and yet can contribute to “tunnel vision”, which can give you a lack of awareness of what else is going on in combative situations. Too much focused aggression can, after all, dissuade you from remembering the weaknesses in your own position.

Too many MGTOW are merely focusing on knowing our enemies, e.g. gynocentrism.  Sun Tzu and the Oracle from the Matrix (remember the sign above the door, before Neo breaks the vase?) remind us one needs to know thyself. Testosterone awareness needs to be common knowledge in the manosphere, IMO.

I’d like to go into more ideas on testosterone if someone would like a discussion. Great stuff.

Also, Thanks Smacktalk! Your topics are thoughtful, and don’t reek of pointless s~~~ flinging. Cheers!

[Cipher HighwindParticipant 1144]

The men who can see that females would use us as their playthings are few in number, thus why MGTOW will likely stay out of the mainstream.

[DayrepSpectator 69]

Smacktalk73 wrote:

We do our best, but really, we are incredibly easy to manipulate.

I wholeheartedly disagree. We are only easy to manipulate because we have been brainwashed by feminism and have been taught to take women seriously. The truth about female nature and traditional masculine wisdom about women has been completely hidden from us. We are easy to socially out-maneuver because society is completely in favor of women and I’m not just talking about legal systems. People believe women very easily and men are taken as bad/oppressive/aggressive/liars by default when compared to women.

 

The above are the reasons the current generation of men is incredibly easy to manipulate in more ways than one. Sexually attractive women can manipulate interested men because of the power they wield. Not because our biology is working against us, though I cannot deny that there may be some truth to that. However it does not seem to be the case if you look at human history. And look at MGTOW.

 

[Yellow WizardParticipant 41]

“I wholeheartedly disagree. We are only easy to manipulate because we have been brainwashed by feminism…” Dayrep

I call bulls~~~. Women don’t need feminism to manipulate men. Here’s an example of why.

A slinky hottie smiles and walks up to you. She’s wearing a sexy dress and is sporting a tight figure. She brushes up next to you and tells you you’re cute. Damn, she smells good.

Is this prelude to manipulation based on brainwashing? No. Could this sort of manipulation tactic have occurred before feminism even existed? Damn straight, because TESTOSTERONE has and affect on our behavior. Do I deny that, as you say, “…we are easy to socially out maneuver because society is completely in favor of women…”? No, I don’t. It’s just that it’s obvious you didn’t listen to the program this whole topic is about. It’s a cool one hour radio show about testosterone and how it affects the way we think. The topic is biology, not culture and feminism. Dayrep and Cipher are trying to hijack the topic.

Understanding testosterone helps to understand ourselves. Click the link and get on the same page.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”        Sun Tzu, The Art of War

 

[Anonymous 11]

Elemental, we are both slaves to testosterone and made by testosterone. It is a very powerful hormone to say the least. I posted some disgusting pictures in response to some female intruders of a woman who had been taking testosterone. She ended up with hair on her back, ripped muscles, and her clit turned into a 1 inch mini-penis complete with sheathed hood.

When that hottie nestles up to us things begin to happen. The first symptom is that our logical brain gets pushed to the rear and reptilian moves front and center. Testosterone in action. The hottie begins to manipulate and size our hypergamy potential up on the spot while we’re in a stupor.

Feminist women do make things more dangerous though as they are out to emasculate us and have succeeded with many men. Feminists do manipulate to achieve their goals, because they are women. A lot of men are also ignorant of the narcissistic depraved base by which many women operate. Manipulation is a time honed tool used by women against both men and women. They are masters of it. Once testosterone knocks our logical brain down for the count, we are much more susceptible to that manipulation. It takes conscious effort to recognize and fight it.

It’s taken me many years of disasters to recognize what I’m up against. I like elemental’s analogy to overcoming alcohol addiction. Whenever, I meet a hot woman. I do get turned on however I now look at her very critically and suspiciously. The little head has been relegated to the back of the bus as it has put me in situations where women naturally took advantage.

It’s not even their fault they took advantage as I was the one who let them do it due to my ignorance and lack of self-control.

[AFTParticipant 2722]

Yellow Wizard wrote:

“I wholeheartedly disagree. We are only easy to manipulate because we have been brainwashed by feminism…” Dayrep I call bulls~~~. Women don’t need feminism to manipulate men. Here’s an example of why. A slinky hottie smiles and walks up to you. She’s wearing a sexy dress and is sporting a tight figure. She brushes up next to you and tells you you’re cute. Damn, she smells good. Is this prelude to manipulation based on brainwashing? No. Could this sort of manipulation tactic have occurred before feminism even existed? Damn straight, because TESTOSTERONE has and affect on our behavior. 

Is testosterone a powerful chemical that influences our decisions?  Sure.  Are hot woman desirable, and does testosterone play a part in effecting our biological urges towards them?  Sure.  Then why are woman, able to manipulate men on such a greater level today?  Because of the social construct that we now live in.  Go to Eastern Europe, and see how incredibly beautiful women, don’t have the  same power over men.  When society brainwashes men into fairy tales of believing woman are equal, whilst simultaneously encouraging women to be freely promiscuous and hands them the bulk of the inter gender rights, with no responsibilities, that’s the power shift.

Why don’t the lions in the zoo eat the people that come and visit them?  Aren’t lions predatory carnivores?  Didn’t they always used to eat prey, in the past?  Sure but its the safety of the social construct that the zoo provides, we have let the woman out of a social construct where they were kept in check, see how your example plays out in a Muslim country, that slore would be stoned to death before you got to stretch her hole a second time.  Don’t they have testosterone in Muslim places?  Sure, but they got rules and discipline to keep things in check.

I’ve got my share of testosterone, but its my Red Pills, that keep me safe.  That slinky slore wouldn’t get more than a good stretching out of me, any manipulative nagging, hassles whatever and she’s kicked to the curb.

 

Anonymous wrote:

Elemental, we are both slaves to testosterone and made by testosterone. It is a very powerful hormone to say the least.  When that hottie nestles up to us things begin to happen. The first symptom is that our logical brain gets pushed to the rear and reptilian moves front and center. Testosterone in action. The hottie begins to manipulate and size our hypergamy potential up on the spot while we’re in a stupor. Feminist women do make things more dangerous though as they are out to emasculate us and have succeeded with many men. Feminists do manipulate to achieve their goals, because they are women. A lot of men are also ignorant of the narcissistic depraved base by which many women operate. Manipulation is a time honed tool used by women against both men and women. They are masters of it. Once testosterone knocks our logical brain down for the count, we are much more susceptible to that manipulation. It takes conscious effort to recognize and fight it. It’s taken me many years of disasters to recognize what I’m up against. I like elemental’s analogy to overcoming alcohol addiction. Whenever, I meet a hot woman. I do get turned on however I now look at her very critically and suspiciously. The little head has been relegated to the back of the bus as it has put me in situations where women naturally took advantage. It’s not even their fault they took advantage as I was the one who let them do it due to my ignorance and lack of self-control.

That’s my point exactly, testosterone gives us physical power, at the expense of rational clarity, woman use manipulation as they cannot overpower men, once we learn to accept reality, the true nature of both genders, then we can control our reactions (especially to our urges), and reason a better way to deal with our situation.  Note all this is necessary because of the society we live in today, it wasn’t the case in the past, its not the case in other cultures.

Testosterone has made men aggressive from day zip, its only now that its become a negative flawed character quality, all because of the social construct we live in.  It is so much easier in this society if we just get neutered, hand our b~~~~ in and fem up, f~~~ that I’m putting my testosterone to good use, building a future for myself and getting the f~~~ out of western society if the rot keeps expanding.

When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan

[DayrepSpectator 69]

@aft I’ve seen loads men from third world countries. 80% of them are not manipulated by their wives. These men do not lose argument or some s~~~ like that because Second world countries are also far better places for men. Even a lot of old western men are this way. Look at Tom Leykis lol.

[AFTParticipant 2722]

Dayrep wrote:

@aft I’ve seen loads men from third world countries. 80% of them are not manipulated by their wives. These men do not lose argument or some s~~~ like that because Second world countries are also far better places for men. Even a lot of old western men are this way. Look at Tom Leykis lol.

@ Dayrep, not only are the men from developing countries (see how our social construct has twisted words, so third world is now developing world, just a side note, pointing out that its this feminized politically correct social construct that has twisted reality even to the point of not being able to speak plainly), but western men are moving to developing countries, where life is more “correct”, its not politically correct it is actually correct, natural.  Men are encouraged to be aggressive, I do admit that the rot is slowly starting to set in worldwide, I don’t give it more than another 30 years before its either totally f~~~ed everywhere, or natural resistance pushes the pendulum back in the other direction.

When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

You know what they say, biology will win out. Boys today are as aggressive or more than my generation. Of course I mean in video games. I don’t think that video games cause violence but do think it’s likely that sometimes a boy will get out his aggression and competition with video games.

Today masculinity is happening with a vengeance in a new art form created by and for men. Video games today are truly awesome.

Guys love video games and girls hate them because it takes their slaves off the plantation, going their own way.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[Anonymous 11]

@aft:

AFT wrote:

Testosterone has made men aggressive from day zip, its only now that its become a negative flawed character quality, all because of the social construct we live in

Very wise words, sir. Testosterone is the penultimate double edged sword. It’s the source of our strength and also the source of our fundamental weakness. The double edged sword is a most effective weapon when properly wielded.

[нσтησσвParticipant 830]

low testy levels = depression = easy to manipulate.
high testy levels = confidence = more difficult to manipulate.

That’s how i see it, or rather how i react to it. I’m most easily manipulated by women when i’m depressed; when i am confident, all i care about is doing something amazing.

My Goal: To Leave Society.

[AFTParticipant 2722]

нσтησσв wrote:

low testy levels = depression = easy to manipulate. high testy levels = confidence = more difficult to manipulate. That’s how i see it, or rather how i react to it. I’m most easily manipulated by women when i’m depressed; when i am confident, all i care about is doing something amazing.

I don’t tend to meet and interact too much with woman when I’m depressed.  I meet far more when I’m confident, and women combined with overconfidence is a recipe for disaster.  My worst mistakes have been made when I was overconfident, and acted more recklessly while I had that bullet proof feeling.  When I’m being more subdued that leads me to introspection, and careful planned deliberate action, based on reason.

When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan

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