Men in college. Biology degrees.

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

I don’t want to be a jack ass but I feel compelled to tell the truth to my brothers. The RED PILL is truth.

Anyone taking a BS degree in Biology you are wasting your time. A BS in straight Biology will get you a $12 an hour job as a technician and that is the truth.

I interviewed a man today from a very expensive private college for a lab tech position, tech is a monkey job. He is in the competition with a HS graduate for the same job. Either way I will have to train them to do the job. Anyone who tells you a BS in straight biology is a STEM degree is lying to you.

How do I know this? I’ve been doing real STEM work for 25 years. A BS Biology is a trained Monkey.

Sorry to be blunt but I see so many good men come through think they are scientists, STEM grads. …

A straight Biology degree is a waste of time.

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[RoyDalParticipant]

@jan.Sobieski, I agree. Men need to research the job potential of the college majors they are considering. There is no point in wasting four years and a huge pile of dollars only to end up underemployed. He might as well skip college and go straight into low skill jobs as soon as the law lets him leave public school.

The US publishes labor statistics that show which college majors are in demand on the labor market and the range of salaries they command. The stats are a couple of years out of date, but it’s a start.

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[Anonymous 5]

I agree.
I went back to university in my early 30’s because I’d paid off the house and saved a bundle.
Biology was something I excelled at in school,,,so I thought ,,why not?
In hindsight, I had no idea what I was doing.

Once I was into the course and doing really well I did some homework about work prospects.
I discovered that more than 90% of work was statutory related. For example, you might be in some factory checking bacteria counts in milk or meat or some other foodstuff.
You could train a monkey to do the same test every day but legislation stipulates that a qualified biologist has to do it.
Of course, because there’s so many bright eyed environmentalists etc pumping through the college system there’s a massive over supply leading to minimum pay rates and unemployment.
The jobs themselves sounded soul crushing, even if you got one.
After successfully completing first year I went back into where I was making money in the first place.
In hindsight, I was probably just burned out a bit and needed a change.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

RoyDal wrote:

Men need to research the job potential of the college majors they are considering.

Men are. That’s why the rate of male college enrollment is collapsing.

There is no point in wasting four years and a huge pile of dollars only to end up underemployed.

And that’s the conclusion they’re coming to. Funny how women haven’t figured that out yet. Then again, why should women worry about little things like crushing student debts when they can get married and have hubby take care of it for them. And if that doesn’t work, they can scream and cry and stamp their little feet and let Big Nanny Government fix it for them.

[Anonymous 11]

@jan:

There was nothing more fun than watching Biology students try to memorize their way through Organic Chemistry. I totally agree with your observation.

I took the understand what the electrons want to do and follow the mechanism path and got rewarded with 1/5 the rote memorization and consistently made high A grades on the tests. I ended up doing analytical methods development work before I bailed into IT work. I made decent money too, but I just got paranoid of what I was being exposed.

I remember using some differential equations to make a background noise subtraction model for for a very low level detection limit method I developed. A female PhD Chemist of some sort from the client called me to explain what I did as it was slightly unconventional and quite creative.

It was whoosh over her head so she had another male PhD guy call me to explain. She was a total c~~~. He loved what I did. It was both scientifically and mathematically sound.

[VarunParticipant 2981]

What about med school?

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

Great point Varun,

Ask any of our MD members, but I’d suggest a BS Biology is not a med school ticket these days.

With respect, ask your MD to draw the structure of the drugs they prescribe. I make those drugs.

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[Anonymous 11]

I don’t want to imply I’m a snob and hate biology. I remember the biology students at my school spent a lot of time in the labs and worked very hard. They do have a lot of bench lab training.

It’s just not a hard science like Physics or Chemistry both of which require mathematics proficiency to be successful especially at the bleeding theoretical edges of Chemistry or Physical Chemistry. I ended up taking higher level math courses than the Engineering students.

Calculus is beautiful. There were no Biology students in our Calculus courses even the beginner ones.

My props to you Jan. Synthetic Organic Chemistry is a very intellectually challenging field.

Organic Chemistry is difficult for those of you who have never taken it. It requires a lot of abstract thinking. The ability to visualize molecules in 3D in your brain is almost a requirement and smokes a lot of people. I learned how to do it from taking Calculus.

One of my nieces just A’d her way through Organic Chemistry just like her uncle so it runs in our family. I was so very proud of her. She’s planning on going the PA route. I used my business network to hook her up with a connection of mine. She’s now majorly in with a woman who sits on the admissions board of our local PA school where the acceptance rate is 2%. This niece is not a feminist and majorly has her s~~~ together in a big way. That’s an example of a MGHOW helping a woman. I would have done the same thing for her had she not been family such is her caliber. She can cook too.

Success in Organic Chemistry is a requirement for medical school. It’s a wash out course for those on the pre-med track.

[GambitParticipant 178]

I hate the idea of going to college at all. I don’t regret going to college, but I’m in IT and right now I have a min wage position. Only AFTER I looked into IT certifications I felt like a complete idiot. I could’ve gotten in my field without having of gone to college.

However, if you do want to do something in biology, I’d recommend going to med school. Med degrees are still booming because society needs more medical professionals. I would’ve went that way with my degree, however, I hate working with people and I can’t stomach doing some of things you have to do in med school. Like dissecting dead bodies. That’s the only thing that kept me from going to med school.

[The_Mad_PirateParticipant 1278]

I think that if a biology major goes the extra mile and does a Physics major he might have a chance of landing in research fields like protein folding.

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[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Varun wrote:

What about med school?

Med school is a long long road. By the time you get out socialized government run medicine will mean you’d have been better off learning a trade.

[Anonymous 11]

Gambit wrote:

I can’t stomach doing some of things you have to do in med school. Like dissecting dead bodies.

Exact same thing here. It’s the same reason I don’t hunt.

I would have made one hell of an MD as I can diagnose arcane issues in any complex systems like very few others I’ve ever met. I did not go the Engineering route, because I could not handle Mechanical Drawing. Now, they use CAD so Engineering would be an option for me if I were young. College degrees were really cheap when we were young. Today, it may be wise to consider going to a simple technical school and learning a trade that has to be done locally and has barriers to illegal immigrant entry.

I even have a second BS in Management. It’s actually a very useful degree though especially now that I’m self-employed and spend a lot of time with business executives. Intellectually, it’s a joke compared to the physical sciences, but it really changed my patterns of thinking. It taught me the value of people skills and brought them out in me as they were latent unknown to me.

If I had it to do all over again, I should have gotten into Finance the first time around. Those guys make out like bandits in these corrupt times, and serious math skills are useful there too.

I remember when our school got it’s first lab PC in the Physics department. The ability to print a simple linear plot was amazing. I would have killed to have had a spreadsheet too.

Sidecar is right about the uncertainty being introduced in the medical arena by government meddling. I know a lot of healthcare professionals from MDs to RTs and Nurses. The vast majority hate it.

The impact of Obamacare on my Radiologist friend’s ability to do his job is astounding. He has lost his freedom to work as he sees fit for a given situation. His patients have to get rescheduled now along with extra exposure to radiation. Before, if he saw something he was free to explore further to aid in diagnostics right on the spot. Now, a f~~~ing script monkey literally has to grant permission to a highly trained experienced specialist. I call it demoralizing.

Only a God damned bureaucrat could like a system like that. Young MGTOWs bureaucracy seems to be the new American way. At least until the Ponzi scheme explodes, you’ll f~~~ing rake it in. The power, oh, the raw power you’ll have too. Your own little fiefdom. I’d wager the field is full of sociopaths too.

[VarunParticipant 2981]

sidecar wrote:

Varun wrote:

What about med school?

Med school is a long long road. By the time you get out socialized government run medicine will mean you’d have been better off learning a trade.

I agree. Over here its about 11 and a half years until you can be a full fledged physician. Tbh I don’t have a problem with biology, its the other two I’m worried about. Physics seem damn near impossible to master and don’t even get me started on chemistry.

Unlikely enough, most people I know are taking up majors in chemistry…. something about “job opportunities in the coming years”.. though I find that hard to believe.

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

I want to apologize if I came off sounding like an ass.

But I see men coming through the doors with thousands of dollars in debt with a worthless degree thinking they are the s~~~ with a BS in Biology.

I feel for them but damn.

I need to tell the truth.

If you are young and want STEM career advice send me a message.

Summation. A BS Biology degree is worthless.

Sorry. It is what it is.

To be clear, I ( I can only speak for myself) would rather hire a “C” student in something hard than straight “A’s” in something easy.

Sorry, but no one ever told me the truth. I am telling you the truth.

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