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because men have to please women
Except I don’t lulz.
A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!
I will take door number 3 please. Thank you very much.
If he don’t act / sing, will he have fans?
There is always an option to stop appearing on screen. Especially when the actor / singer do the cost benefit analysis and find that what he make a lost after deducting the album publishing cost, advertisement, stage rent etc etc. And he don’t go around following other actor / singer.
Just like men finding to be a leader to women fail the cost benefit analysis and be a follower to women fail even more. Men just don’t care to be a leader or follower to women and avoid them as much as possible, that’s the third option.
Nobody can force someone to be a leader or follower box unless he choose to.
He doesn’t act or sing how is he an actor or a singer then? Why does he need stop to appear on the screen? Maybe it’s his own way! Okey, an actor has stopped screening and changed its occupation to a theatre actor. But then he still is an actor, and he still will be having fans. Until you are among people you cannot guarantee yourself from turning into an accidental leader. And then I repeat my question: What MGTOW need to do with thier followers?
Happiness for all and let no one be forgotten ("Roadside picnic", Arkady and Boris Strugatsky)
If he don’t act / sing, will he have fans?
There is always an option to stop appearing on screen. Especially when the actor / singer do the cost benefit analysis and find that what he make a lost after deducting the album publishing cost, advertisement, stage rent etc etc. And he don’t go around following other actor / singer.
Just like men finding to be a leader to women fail the cost benefit analysis and be a follower to women fail even more. Men just don’t care to be a leader or follower to women and avoid them as much as possible, that’s the third option.
Nobody can force someone to be a leader or follower box unless he choose to.
He doesn’t act or sing how is he an actor or a singer then? Why does he need stop to appear on the screen? Maybe it’s his own way! Okey, an actor has stopped screening and changed its occupation to a theatre actor. But then he still is an actor, and he still will be having fans. Until you are among people you cannot guarantee yourself from turning into an accidental leader. And then I repeat my question: What MGTOW need to do with thier followers?
I already told you, being an actor / singer cause him to lose money hence he stop appearing on screen. Did you even read what you quoted?
As for what MGTOW need to do with their followers, you need to ask at least 19000++ MGTOW for that.
There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.
I already told you, being an actor / singer cause him to lose money hence he stop appearing on screen. Did you even read what you quoted?
And I told you an actor may earns money by working in a theatre. The same with a singer. Even if you have disappeared from the screen, some of your followers will stay, because the most loyal of them will be tracking your life, no matter what your new occupation is.
As for what MGTOW need to do with their followers, you need to ask at least 19000++ MGTOW for that.
So, everything you are writing about MGTOW, it is only your hamble opinion, not a dogma. So, for now, I stick to my vision of MGTOW.
Happiness for all and let no one be forgotten ("Roadside picnic", Arkady and Boris Strugatsky)
Accidentally becomes a leader of what?
How can a man that does nothing accidentally become a leader.
A leader of a person or a group of people. Only a dead man, or anyone who is on the edge of the death,does nothing. As example, it can happens to an actor(a singer). One day he may woke up a famous, and his fans will be following him.
You really are struggling with the concept of doing ‘nothing’.
It is core to mgtow.
Mgtow is not a movement where we March on Washington.
Mgtow is nothing.
You are trying to put the narrative into a group/mob situation in order to understand mgtow.
Mgtow does not exist there. It left.
You seem to be trying to understand how mgtow applies to world leaders of history.
You are in the wrong arena.
Mgtow applies to an individual man.
If you are an actor and you become famous and have fans you do your job. Then you do nothing.
You do not marry anjelina and have children.
Each individual man comes to the mgtow realization at their individual time in their life. Where they are differs with each of us. Some are deep into the mangina s~~~ and have to spend years extracting themselves. Some are young and smart enough to do nothing before it’s too late.
Hans Solo is a good example. He wasn’t pro rebel alliance or galactic empire. He wanted nothing to do with either. He understood that nothing good would happen to him in either door 1 or door 2.
Hope this helps
Peace brothers
I’d say there are 5 ways that a person can relate to another person.
Leader – This is what a father does for his kids, for his pets/animals. He takes responsibility for their care and well being. In return he expects their obedience. Gladiator absolutely was a leader, at least in terms of his relationships to soldiers and his fellow gladiators.
Follower – This is how a child looks to his father. He is dependent on the father’s resources and guidance. He does as the father tells him to do. (Note a follower can follow the guidance of someone who isn’t a leader…I’d call that ‘drafting’)
Equals – This is how two friends or business partners operate. They do not take orders from each other, but work together where they feel it is mutually beneficial to do so, or out of direct concern for each other. I’d say this is also modern employment. Even though there may be a boss, the boss and employment are both working for mutual benefit and will end employment when the benefit is no longer there. In terms of the movie gladiator, I’d say Maximus and Marcus Aurelius were functionally equals.
Independent/Ignore – This is your typical MGTOW stance. They go their own way to provide and care for themselves with no dependence on others or followers to help meet their needs.
Dysfunctional – The modern marriage. A leader who expects obedience but does not provide any care for the followers, or a follower who expects care and guidance, but is not obedient. The latter is way more common, obviously, as that’s the typical wife. Women will claim that they want an equal relationship, but their biological desire to follow mixed with feminist desire for independence results in dysfunction. Dysfunction seems to leave both parties unhappy with the relationship.
And to be clear, a person can have different types of relationships with people. I am a leader at home with my kids, an equal at work and friends, and independent just about everywhere else. And no, nothing scientific here…just seemed logical to me.
Ok. Then do it.
Mgtow is nothing.
Is MGTOW the Death itself, or even a pre-Big Bang state? There was the only state of the nothing. Otherwise you do something and come to something. Hans Solo exactly was in motion all the time, except the time he was frozen. And he was a rebel unit, because he helped the Rebels, but had nothing to do with the Empire.
Happiness for all and let no one be forgotten ("Roadside picnic", Arkady and Boris Strugatsky)
Independent/Ignore – This is your typical MGTOW stance. They go their own way to provide and care for themselves with no dependence on others or followers to help meet their needs.
Pure MGTOW are either a hermit or a homeless. These guys indeed don’t depend on others. But how can you live with no dependence on others in the society? When you try to make money, you are depending on a person who gives you the money. More correctly, your level of wealth depends on that person.
Happiness for all and let no one be forgotten ("Roadside picnic", Arkady and Boris Strugatsky)
Mgtow is nothing.
Is MGTOW the Death itself, or even a pre-Big Bang state? There was the only state of the nothing. Otherwise you do something and come to something. Hans Solo exactly was in motion all the time, except the time he was frozen. And he was a rebel unit, because he helped the Rebels, but had nothing to do with the Empire.
LOL. At this point your just being obtuse.
Another way to explain the doors is to say that door number 3 is nothing.
It is the result of saying NO.
You don’t go through door number 3.
As a man in our society you have choices. If you do not know door 3 exists you are a chalk outline looking for a place to happen.
If you are a man in our society and you don’t understand this then I question your gender. Or, you just haven’t been properly violated yet.
Peace brothers
I agree.
Young men have to sexually please women: women should always reach orgasms while having sex with them.
It’s very good for the young men to prove their sexual prowess to themselves, and that will make them very sure about themselves.
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LOL. At this point your just being obtuse.
Wow. Is that you come out with? Insult the opponent when you lack of arguments. Such a girly. You almost have reached the bottom of the barrel. So should I ask you of your gender?
Happiness for all and let no one be forgotten ("Roadside picnic", Arkady and Boris Strugatsky)
He doesn’t act or sing how is he an actor or a singer then? Why does he need stop to appear on the screen? Maybe it’s his own way! Okey, an actor has stopped screening and changed its occupation to a theatre actor. But then he still is an actor, and he still will be having fans. Until you are among people you cannot guarantee yourself from turning into an accidental leader. And then I repeat my question: What MGTOW need to do with thier followers?
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.I already told you, being an actor / singer cause him to lose money hence he stop appearing on screen. Did you even read what you quoted?
And I told you an actor may earns money by working in a theatre. The same with a singer. Even if you have disappeared from the screen, some of your followers will stay, because the most loyal of them will be tracking your life, no matter what your new occupation is.
As for what MGTOW need to do with their followers, you need to ask at least 19000++ MGTOW for that.
So, everything you are writing about MGTOW, it is only your hamble opinion, not a dogma. So, for now, I stick to my vision of MGTOW.
You ask why the actor stop appearing on screen. I answer because he did the cost benefit analysis and found that he lose money just like how men found marriage fail the cost benefit analysis.
Then you insist that he have to earn money working at a theater? Even at a loss?
No nobody can force him to act just nobody can force a man in marriage.So stalkers will be tracking the actor? So what, the ex-actor does not have to put any effort to please his stalkers.
Just like what the ex-husband does not have to put any effort to please his ex-wife.There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.
He doesn’t act or sing how is he an actor or a singer then? Why does he need stop to appear on the screen? Maybe it’s his own way! Okey, an actor has stopped screening and changed its occupation to a theatre actor. But then he still is an actor, and he still will be having fans. Until you are among people you cannot guarantee yourself from turning into an accidental leader. And then I repeat my question: What MGTOW need to do with thier followers?
I already told you, being an actor / singer cause him to lose money hence he stop appearing on screen. Did you even read what you quoted?
And I told you an actor may earns money by working in a theatre. The same with a singer. Even if you have disappeared from the screen, some of your followers will stay, because the most loyal of them will be tracking your life, no matter what your new occupation is.
As for what MGTOW need to do with their followers, you need to ask at least 19000++ MGTOW for that.
So, everything you are writing about MGTOW, it is only your hamble opinion, not a dogma. So, for now, I stick to my vision of MGTOW.
You ask why the actor stop appearing on screen. I answer because he did the cost benefit analysis and found that he lose money just like how men found marriage fail the cost benefit analysis.
Then you insist that he have to earn money working at a theater? Even at a loss?
No nobody can force him to act just nobody can force a man in marriage.So stalkers will be tracking the actor? So what, the ex-actor does not have to put any effort to please his stalkers.
Just like what the ex-husband does not have to put any effort to please his ex-wife.There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.
You ask why the actor stop appearing on screen.
Why does he need stop to appear on the screen?
Did I? You don’t read me. It’s empty talk.
Happiness for all and let no one be forgotten ("Roadside picnic", Arkady and Boris Strugatsky)
True story guys,
a colleague of mine is celebrating her anniversary. Now, of course, everyone is congratulating her about it and she received a bouquet of flowers from her husband to which she said not bad.
“Not.. Bad..”, once you start having that MGTOW perspective – you see everything for what it is. Starting from her body language to the way she used “Not bad” got to me as if it was expected from her husband to do this.
If a man does anything for her, it’s a f~~~ing gift – not an expectation.
I was actually surprised that Keymaster brought this up however this just further proves to me that we’re all dealing with the same woman.
Nothing’s new under the sun fellas.
Don't let defeat, defeat you; Let defeat be your greatest teacher.
You ask why the actor stop appearing on screen.
Why does he need stop to appear on the screen?
Did I? You don’t read me. It’s empty talk.
It is what you say yourself here.
I cannot read your mind. I can only go by what you say yourself.
There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.
Anonymous1Me “so you want me to pay for dinner”
Her yes it is the responsibility of a man to pay for the dinner”
Me ” So when we get home are you going to give me a BJ”
Her “How crude, of course not”
Me “so remind me again why I’m paying for dinner”So, blahh blahh and … So, from the childhood, women raise boys in understanding that they are nothing in front of women. One of them take the Red Pill in years later, the others turn into manginas who know that they are to serve a woman, not to lead.
I guess the sticking point for a time was the fake notion that there was only TWO alternatives.
Serve = not to lead
and the Red Pill takers are assumed to be the opposite.The opposite of NOT TO LEAD is not necessarily TO LEAD.
Door #3, Monty, is to NOT GIVE A F~~~.
IF WIMMINS FOLLOW ME, I AM NOT THEIR LEADER. Even if they want me to be.
You say in effect that they can impose leadership upon me by FOLLOWING.
I ain’t feelin it.I understand the (fake?)point you initiated but the extrapolation is skewed.
Translation in actual relationships after a 28yr marriage:
I had a great girl friend, fit, thin, well read, my generation, exciting, I could have done anything with her to her etc. SHE followed? me, but I refused to lead her. I refused to keep it going. She did not stalk me but I could go back to her any time I wish. I did not.So, was I serving Her by allowing her to give me ultimate head, or was I leading her to give me ultimate head? BEST EVER mind you. could be both.
I still chose door #3.Had another GF, same time, and she was definitely following me. I didn’t lead her. At most in my mind I equaled her: in effort, money and time spent etc. We both enjoyed the physical stuff and the mental compatibility. The Laughter-to-Tears.
I still chose door #3. I guess I could say I stopped leading her in HER mind but I stopped letting her follow in my mind.Had a third GF at the same time. She made me FakeLead her and made me Serve her at the same time. She assumed the Lead but I control our time and I control the intimacies. (cut off presently).
Had a fourth at the same time….enough….but they all have met door #3 or on the stoop. I don’t care any longer. I had the childhood sweet heart, the bed-best-ever, the mostest, the most fun, and I’m done. It cannot be bested and I made it out alive. Did I serve? Did I lead>? Did I WiN>?
I don’t give a f~~~. Whatever, I’m over it.
Does this make me a leader of me or a quitter>? a follower of a dying collective>?I don’t give a f~~~. I don’t give. and I don’t f~~~.
(wonder if this is the correct thread…… oh well its typed now)
cheers mates!with joy/without hate
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