Men Are Scared of Strong, Independent Women? Yeah Right

[GrumpyParticipant]

Mango Ingaway wrote:

Why can’t the strong, independent woman get dates

She didn’t ask, that is why. The unmitigated gall of women who use this bulls~~~  line, then whine when they don’t get what they haven’t asked for.

Lady, you want a date? Ask someone, the absolute worst response will be a no. Ironic that it is fine for men to constantly risk rejection, but not you “strong independent women”

Madam..your dinner is served <points to  my groin>

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

[WolfParticipant 890]

I’m tired of that statement too. My take: women can never be at fault. If a guy isn’t interested, or loses interest, then it has to be a fault that he has. For the life of me, I can’t fathom a man who is scared of a woman who won’t be a financial and emotional drain on him.

And for the record, I’ve never dated a woman who was strong and independent. Perhaps my picker is broken, but I suspect that strong and independent women are a unicorn. I have known a couple of women thru mutual friends that appear to be strong and independent (good job and appears to have their s~~~ together), but their dream is to become a stay-at-home mom. Go figure…

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

When “strong, independent woman” means that she wants to get whatever she wants, and won’t take no for an answer, nor respect the wishes of a man she would date, then it is a problem.  If a man doesn’t have enough of his own life that he will kowtow to this woman, that is a problem.

For myself, if it means she can take care of herself, and has an interest in what I am into, independent of me, I don’t have a problem with that.  I am seeing that is increasingly NAWALT Unicorn though.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[narwhalParticipant]

Eh.  From my experience, most women who say they are strong and independent are lying.  For those that are truly independent, I’m not sure why they want a relationship.  From what I’ve seen, it means I’ll be expected to go to parties/events I don’t want to go to, where she will openly flirt with other men.  She will cancel dates when something better comes up or simply doesn’t feel like it.  She will not be interested in my life, because her life is so much more important.   She has plenty of other suitors, she feels, so she won’t compromise.  I’m not interested.

I can think of a few women I dated that truly women I dated that were strong and independent.

woman 1 – She was a former marketing professional, who took a lesser job to spend more time with kids and such. Her ex provided decent money, so that wasn’t a priority.  She lived with parents to save money (later bought her own house).  She was rather strong willed, but she was willing to listen and compromise for the sake of the relationship.  She was a good girl, but I wasn’t interested in having kids meet etc.  So after 6 months, I was done.

woman 2- She was an executive recruiter.  Very odd for me, because she made a lot more money then me.  First time I ever felt like a boy toy.   We had a couple dates, the sex was great, and then she ghosted.  I didn’t have a problem with that though, as I could see it wasn’t going to last.  The sex was really good though.

woman 3 – She owned her owned spray tanning business.  She was very confident and had a spectacular body.  We had a few fun dates.  When it came time to get intimate, she opted to tease the hell out of me.   Never been teased so hard in my life.  She wanted to dominate that part of the relationship.  I wasn’t interested, so I moved on.

Fear?  No.  Just not interested in those games.

Ok. Then do it.

[PhoenixParticipant 2]

Strong independent woman?

Well, there are a couple of problems with that description. Firstly, what do women normally mean by “strong?” Do they mean strong in their femininity, or strong based on other criteria?Usually when they say “strong” what they really mean is brash and abusive. The other major problem is when they describe themselves as independent. Being independent is NOT a mark of maturity, as it is often seen. Being independent is the attitude of “I”. Eg. “I will get what I want without any regard for others.”  It is an attitude of narcissism. Reality is interdependent. It depends not just on your own efforts, but how you interact with others. So, when you hear this phrase, what a woman is really saying is she is brash, rude, narcissistic and self-absorbed. It’s just a polite way of saying it.

[pjharris1Participant 7]

Those who are truly strong are those who don’t feel the need to keep telling others that they are strong, as if trying to convince themselves and intimidate others. The toughest people I know, and they are all male, don’t say more than they have to.

[cardinal2007Participant 8]

I’ve never dated women who are actually Strong and Independent, I would actually love to date someone like that, since most women I’ve dated have quickly felt like they are dependent on me, even if they were strong in some way.  Some of the women like that were those with good careers, yes even in Silicon Valley, but still wanted me to take care of things, essentially they were looking for someone to take care of them, not so independent.  There were women with strong opinions that didn’t really value my opinions, still not quite independent.

I think if there are strong, independent women, then they are not that likely to look for men to date, most women date men to find someone to take care of them.

[mywayParticipant 1]

Man RoyDal, you sure hit home with a lot of your comments. I am currently married for 22 yrs. to a “Strong, independent woman”. You hit it on the head. She has just become someone that I have to compete with. We have to compete for money, power in the family, for who runs the show. To tell you the truth I am tired, man I am so tired. I got to work 13 hr. days  then I gop home to be berated and have to compete with her. It is coming to an end, unfortunately , but I feel like I am married to a dude.

[HeisenbergParticipant 18]

Was dating this she devil a few years ago and we started fighting all the time.  One day we went to her dad’s house to pick up her tuition check. Later in the day, we got into it over something, I don’t even remember what now. Out of nowhere, she says “you just hate the fact that I’m so strong and independent!” Holy f~~~! My reply left her stunned, and here it is: “Bitch, you just picked up a check for $5,000 from your dad. You are driving a car HE bought you. You live with your mother. How the f~~~ are you a strong independent woman?!”

[DarthWParticipant 70]

“How the f~~~ are you a strong independent woman?!” –  LMAO.  Indeed.  Women are so obviously illogical, and also so illogical that they can’t see it for themselves.

[Terminus EstParticipant 145]

As with all things feminist, equality it’s just a buffet for women anyway.

I have yet to meet a strong, independent woman who wouldn’t immediately and instinctively turn to stare at a man for help when the tire blows out at 2 am at the side of a scary highway.

In such times women say they still like to be “treated like a lady”.

[rebelandboltmanParticipant 640]

I’m never afraid of a “strong, independent woman.”  I just choose not to deal with it.    Narcissism is bred in these type of women, and it gets a bit nauseating after awhile.   The most ironic thing about a “strong, independent women” who feels that men are “afraid” to talk to them,  I can invite one to chat with me on the phone or in a public place, and how do they respond?   OH NO!   I DON’T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT YOU!   Oh, really Miss “Strong and Independent?”  Who’s afraid  NOW??   This usually shuts them up.

[FunInTheSunParticipant 8283]

Exactly, why would I want to experience a “job interview” from a woman with a strong personality during my free time when I can date a woman that’s easier to talk to? Here’s an analogy: if I someone gave me a choice between a buying a box of cake mix and eggs, or buying a cake at the bakery, I’m choosing the bakery. Strong/independent women are like cake mix to me—you have to WORK to get something sweet.

"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)

[KingOfTheSeaParticipant 1270]

Anonymous wrote:

Women have a huge advantage over men, when a man is “Strong” he is seen as a bully, when he is “Gentle” he is seen as weak.
When a woman is Strong she is a Feminist, when she is Gentle she is a lady. She gets to win either way.

Yeah, must be real nice that whenever you’re acting like a conniving bitch, you can just substitute that for “strong” and “independent”.

[DeepInThoughtParticipant 2710]

Manocalypse wrote:

I make my own sandwiches, so what would they be there for?

Female made sammich vs MGTOW sammich:

http://www.wearehq.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/The-Worlds-Meatiest-Sandwich-01.jpg

[MadScientistParticipant 131]

I love to cook. LOVE it. Really get enjoyment from it, and have been doing it since I was a pre teen.. it is one of the few things my mother did for me that has paid dividends. So, Im pretty badass in the kitchen.because I have failed so many times at it and learned, over the course of over 30 years of living, and fixing food for myself, as well as numerous culinary arts courses and craploads of experimentation.. I use it as a way to provide me with a moment of pleasure. For me, nothing like it.. jazz, a glass of wine, some duck l’orange and all the trimmings, and a good book, like The Wealth Of Nations. So that’s what I do a few times a week for myself.

It is very very interesting to see what a woman will do once she is confronted with a guy who can cook his ass off. I will tell you, the women I have stayed with the longest (except for my ex wife.. forgive me for my pre year 30 ignorance) took it as a challenge, and insisted THEY do the cooking about half the time, and would work really hard to make good food. They understood the value of service, and while still in the grips of bulls~~~, they were all a cut above the norm, and were ACTUALLY somewhat strong and independent. At the time, I loved them for it, although.. of course.. I didn’t realize what I was playing into, long term. But still.. a bit of genuine strength in those few. So I stayed until ‘The Thing’ happened.. inevitably I would get disrespected, and after three or so times, game over.

The ones who didn’t, well.. I did the Terrance Popp special on them and moved on.

Its a pretty good test, I think 🙂

Anyhoo.. absolute bulls~~~ that men don’t appreciate strong, independent women.. if what that means is strength of character, willingness to help when help is warranted, and independent enough to offer excess time or resources (since you’re independent you HAVE excess time or resources, right?) to someone deserving in need. Thats what it means to me, is what I live by. I suspect its the same for a lot of you guys as well.

However, since the disempowered and insane feminazi’s have taken over the public discourse, and the legal system, even women who WANT to be that way are not allowed to be that way, which is likely one big reason why NAWALT doesn’t exist.

Im aware of the arguments from biology, and what I am saying is not that women can suddenly see the world as men do if they just try.. just suggesting that women are discouraged from being respectful, open and fair to men by the prevalent culture, which probably contributes to the insanity and makes it worse than it has to be.. keeps it well out of balance.

[DrexelScottParticipant 30]

I don’t want a “strong” woman any more than a woman wants a “weak” man. Masculine man, feminine female–this is the ONLY polarity that works.

"No price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself."--Nietzche

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[DrAK74Participant 77]

In a few words ‘NO WE AREN’T! Why, because they don’t exist. Strong usually equates with rude and emasculating, and don’t get me started about independent……

[CatsPawParticipant 423]

Just another shaming tactic. Nothing to lose sleep about.
Women are painfully predictable.

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